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[nkstan]

I doubt that he has asociated himself with a particular group in this conflict![quote="trubrit"][quote="nkstan"][quote][quote="old-timer"]OT went to the red shirts HQ udon, in view of starting a falang radio show[/quote

[trubrit]

I doubt that he has asociated himself with a particular group in this conflict!

OT went to the red shirts HQ udon, in view of starting a falang radio show[/quote

Well don't know what to make of all those quotes but I would have thought if he was broadcasting on a particular channel he was making his allegiance plainly obvious . Tune in for yourself . 97.5 fm

[bumper]

This may be how things will move forward, anyone notice the guys sentenced to jail were bailed out, yesterday.

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M79 Bomb Attack at Bangkok Bank Talingchan Branch
UPDATE : 28 April 2010
An M79 bomb attack took place at another Bangkok Bank branch located in Talingchan area. No injuries have been reported. Bangkok bank has been labeled by the anti-govt red shirts as being closely associated with the so called 'elites'.

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Red-shirts Form Special Units to Counter Multi Colored Shirt Group
UPDATE : 27 April 2010
The red-shirt core leaders have revealed that special units have been set up to 'counter' the movements of anti-red groups that are calling themselves the 'multi-colored shirt' group. The largest anti-red shirt civic movement is being led by Dr. Tul Sittisomwong.

[bumper]

Yesterday in the local news it was full speed ahead then you get this on the same day, to the BBC, Pick one you have 50% chance of being right. Ultimate Politician I didn't do it, if I weer that General I would find me a place, to relax. He is Political canon fodder

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Thai PM says he will step down if national stability at stake
Posted: 28 April 2010 0320 hrs

Abhisit Vejjajiva

LONDON: Thailand's embattled prime minister said he would step down if he believed he were an obstacle to his country's stability, in a BBC interview released on Tuesday.

But Abhisit Vejjajiva said the country's problems were not purely political and involved security and what he called "terrorist" problems, saying Thailand needs more than a short-term solution.

He also said there were no plans to impose martial law to clamp down on weeks of protests to campaign for immediate elections, according to excerpts of the interview released by the BBC before broadcast.

Asked if he would step down if he believed he were an obstacle to Thailand's recovery and stability, Abhisit replied: "Of course. I've never put my interests above the country's."

But he said: "We are in agreement at the moment that the problems we are seeing is not a purely political problem. There are security problems involved, there are terrorist problems involved.

"We need to tackle all those issues at the same time. When we talk about the stability everyone wants to achieve, not a short-term stability waiting for the problem, the same problem to be repeated again and again," he added.

His comments came as Thailand's anti-government 'Red Shirts' continued protests in a bid to thwart a feared military crackdown as the government talked tough against the protesters.

Abhisit, regarded as elitist and undemocratic by his opponents, said he had no power to declare martial law.

"Martial law would be declared by the armed forces, it's not within my power to do so. At the moment they have no intention of doing so," he said.

"Well from my discussion with the people responsible and the people who have powers, they have no intention of declaring martial law at the moment," he added. - AFP/de

[arjay]

I feel that regardless of whether there is merit in their cause or not, the country should not be held to ransom by the actions of one group or another, whether a minority or a majority. Whilst people should be free to quietly and orderly protest, to me the current actions and activities of the red shirts are totally unacceptable, and the government should take appropriate action to bring an end to the current disruption. To fail to do so, for whatever reasons, undermines the credibility of not only the government, but also of the country as a whole to the rest of the world looking on. And also suggests a bleak outlook for the future in terms of a strong and stable democracy in the country.

I understand because of various conflicting loyalties within the security forces, not to mention a lack of training in certain functions, that the government's hands maybe being to some extent tied. Nevertheless in a democracy the security services should be totally and fully responsible to, cooperative with, and indeed answerable to the government (currently) in power, and law and order should be properly enforced and seen to be enforced.

Whilst there maybe a large number of red shirt protesters, they are but a small minority compared to the rest of the law abiding population, many of whom are being prevented from carrying out their day to day work and activities. To capitulate to one group only invites another group to do the same later.

[jackspratt]

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Val, what is your level of confidence that the Dems, or the Yellow Shirts for that matter, could freely campaign in your Mu Baan in the upcoming election (putting aside the question of vote buying which will occur from all sides as a matter of course)?

Possibly you don't know that the three leading members of the Udon community are all of PAD persuasion. The governor, mayor and ex mayor , now senator .So I don't see any problem

You are talking about the past (last Senate election was 2008, mayoral 2006, Governor is appointed) - my concern is what is likely to happen when the next election is held, hopefully this year.

Given the history of the reds in preventing members of the current government or PAD from visiting red hot spots (Udon, Chiang Mai) etc, I am afraid I don't share your confidence.

That is one of the reasons that a "forced" election in the next 90 days or so would not be free and fair (again, putting aside issues of vote buying).

For that to happen there needs to be a political solution to the current problem, and then a further period for things to quieten down.

[bumper]

Arjay a great description of the Democracy we are used to. Wonder what Thailand's will evolve to be. With BBC interview I really ended up with mixed signals from Adihist. Is his intent to allow the protesters to just stay there shutting down all those business's. How did you guys read it?

Seemed very contrary to me of what we have been reading locally.

[nkstan]

It almost seems that he lacks enough power and control within the coalition to act.Plus if the army is ineffective ,probably from lack of will because many are sympathizers,he is really powerless.I also imagine that many of the police don't want to commit ,because they see an impasse and want to make sure the are not opposing tomorrows bosses,plus they are a lazy lot except for hustling and extorting money,IMO!

[bumper]

Channel news asia ( Cable 44) TV reported they troops fired live rounds in the air, take your pick. Obviously the reds were not contained I wonder if they were not a the rally site in the first place. Me that is exactly what I would do. Keep them busy at one place and him them where they are not. I would say the reds will keep pushing, no Matter what international standards they Government is using. I still wonder what international standard allows for no action with what has been going on grenade attacks ECT.

If the P.M. is worried about his political job , that is history. He might as well do the work now.

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Red-shirt clash with riot forces at Don Muang


Red-shirt protesters clashed with anti-riot forces near the Air Force headquarters Wednesday afternoon.

The procession of the red-shirt protesters led by Kwanchai Phraiphana arrived at the security checkpoint of the anti-riot force at the National Memorial 2 kms from Air Force headquarters at 1 pm, leading to a standoff.

About half an hour later, Kwanchai sent motorcyclists to try to break through the checkpoint, prompting troops to fire rubber bullets at the protesters.

Protesters fired homemade bamboo rockets at troops and troops also fired tear gases at the demonstrators.

Troops also fired into the sky to intimidate the protesters.

Standoff was still going on.

The Nation

[Marlowe]

Some good reporting on the current political crisis here -- the kind we could use more of in these parts...

[bumper]

Interesting. However I will not say more then that ticklish to say he least. I booked marked the site.

[old-timer]

OT went to the red shirts HQ udon, in view of starting a falang radio show

To what end?????

To be quite honest, I could not imagine anyone being interested in my drivel for more than a couple of minutes let alone a couple of hours. I'm still thinking about doing a radio show in UT though.

DJ OT......

[bumper]

I believe this is a Bangkok area?

Are they testing the waters? They don't seem contained to me, one more failure.

Tension Eased Marginally, Authorities Fire Tear Gas into Air
UPDATE : 28 April 2010
The tension near the Thai Market in Pathum Thani has eased after red-shirt protesters have fallen back. Security agencies were forced to fire hundreds of tear gas and rubber bullets into the air to intimidate the protesters after the protesters fired fire rockets and threw rocks at the soldiers. Most of the protesters have taken refuge at nearby buildings and at a gas station on Vibhavadi Rangsit Road.

Thai Army Fires Rubber Bullets as Protesters Leave Bangkok Base
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By Daniel Ten Kate and Suttinee Yuvejwattana

April 28 (Bloomberg) -- Thai troops fired rubber bullets in a clash with anti-government protesters, INN news agency reported, after the group sent about 2,000 members in pick-ups and motorcycles to rally support outside the capital.

Soldiers opened fire at a checkpoint as the red-shirted demonstrators traveled to a fresh-food market north of Bangkok, INN said. The army is attempting to arrest convoy members, spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said by phone.

The plan by organizers to send “task forces” from the commercial area threatens to provoke clashes with authorities, who yesterday threatened a stern response. A grenade attack on the elevated train line killed one person last week and a failed attempt to disperse the group April 10 left 25 people dead.

“We want to show the people at the market that we stand with them,” protest spokesman Sean Boonpracong said by phone. “We will see if the army cracks a whip on us.”

The demonstrators, who mostly support fugitive ex-leader Thaksin Shinawatra, have occupied an area roughly the size of New York’s Central Park for the past 25 days. Yesterday they blocked a commuter train line during morning rush hour, prompting the government to warn of a crackdown.

“We have been patient for two months,” Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said yesterday. “But we will use decisive measures under the law from now.”

Carrying Rifles

Soldiers carrying rifles this morning were stationed on Silom and Sukhumvit roads, Bangkok business arteries that connect with the cordoned-off protest site. Water cannon trucks and riot police are also positioned in the area.

The SET index fell 0.6 percent as of the mid-day break, and is Asia’s second-worst performer this month after the benchmark in Shanghai. Thai stocks have risen 3 percent for the year compared with a 4 percent gain for the MSCI Asia Pacific Index.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, who last weekend rejected direct talks with the demonstrators, said yesterday the government would provide assistance for businesses affected by the protests. Measures would include rescheduling of tax payments, assistance with wages and help in making rent payments, he said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Daniel Ten Kate in Bangkok at dtenkate@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: April 28, 2010 03:28 EDT

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[bumper]

CNN is showing a very different story of a fire fight, I can't find anything on it anywhere else. Doesn't say it's a the market so no idea if it's just a different view on the incident earlier today.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiap ... index.html

[jackspratt]

Actually here in Udon they do have an Australian guy broadcasting every afternoon .Doesn't pull his punches either .Some of you may possibly know him

His timing may be impeccable - up for a management job if this report is correct:

Kwanchai arrested: report

Kwanchai Phraiphana, a red-shirt leader, was arrested near the clashing site in Don Muang, Thai Rath Online reported.

The paper said Kwanchai was arrested at 2:41 pm while was trying to flee back to Rajprasong.

It (the management job) may be short-lived however, depending on what he has been saying. Hope he doesn't have any strong ties to Thailand.

[bumper]

Yep, that is not a good move to get involved in this in anyway.

[bumper]

The Thai TV news, said one soldier was killed shot in the head. I'm not jumping to conclusion on that one accidental discharge ( friendly fire) may have been the cause. Who know they are still sorting things out. So numbers may change before the evening is over. There is confusion if a Red Shirt leader was arrested or not. In reading this it says he may still be alive. Hope so.

* Published: 28/04/2010 at 04:54 PM
* Online news: Breakingnews

Eighteen people were injured when troops clashed with red-shirt protesters near the National Memorial on Vibhavadi Road on Wednesday, Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanavisit said.

Of the 18 people, two were in critical conditions, he said in a television interview.

On reports that one soldier was shot in the head and was in critical conditions, Mr Jurin said the Public Health Ministry was verifying that.

The figure was based on information he received at 4.30pm, he said.

[jackspratt]

Actually here in Udon they do have an Australian guy broadcasting every afternoon .Doesn't pull his punches either .Some of you may possibly know him

His timing may be impeccable - up for a management job if this report is correct:

Kwanchai arrested: report

Kwanchai Phraiphana, a red-shirt leader, was arrested near the clashing site in Don Muang, Thai Rath Online reported.

The paper said Kwanchai was arrested at 2:41 pm while was trying to flee back to Rajprasong.

It (the management job) may be short-lived however, depending on what he has been saying. Hope he doesn't have any strong ties to Thailand.

Seems Aussie Joe may have to wait a little longer for his promotion.

Kwanchai reappears at Rajprasong Intersection

Kwanchai Phraiphana reappeared at the Rajprasong rally stage at 3:23 pm Wednesday.

Earlier, it was reported that Kwanchai, who led protesters to clash with troops in Don Muang, had been arrested.

Kwanchai was unaccounted for since the clash until he reappeared on the stage.

Disappointing really.

[FrazeeDK]

well the Bangkok Post did say one soldier died from being shot.. The BBC tells more of the story, calling it friendly fire. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8648109.stm Channel 3 just had interviews at Rajaprasong with Red Shirts who tangled with the soldiers today with 3-4 showing what were probably rubber bullet wounds.

Note the Bangkok Posts story about CRES calling Chavalit in for an alleged anti-monarchy plot. http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1 ... allegation. Suthep's right out in front bangking the drum. Puea Thai has filed a defamation suit...

Also note what might resolve this crisis within the next couple of weeks.. The courts have accepted the Democrat dissolution case.http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1 ... ocrat-case The Democrats have 15 days to submit a defense.. That's by the 12th. How soon could the court announce a decision?? Remember, the Red Shirt leaders have promised to turn themselves into the Police on the 15th of May... Could it be the Dems (and the Parliament) will be dissolved by then???

wheels within wheels...