You really cant tell can you? (Wife leaves me)

[BenZona]

The mother has proved over the last 7 weeks that she can stand on her own two fee.

How?

6000 hits now

Never seen a person on a forum who was so interested in ratings.

Sounds a bit like a commercial TV station. Seems like you need a lot of attention...

It might seem that way is a cock head cuts three words out of context of what was actually said, but not if you avoid the cock heads cut and read the real thing, just how do you "see" people on forums anyway?

sooo, was adjourned today, i get to see him again, and most important of all,The man in the chair actually commended me on being patient and said "well done on putting your son before your pride" as i agreed to VERY short visits until the reports done.... Now she is royally stuffed.....I just have to be patient... It was interesting to see her today, i honestly did not know what i would feel in relation to her, but now it is confirmed, i AM glad its over, It was odd, there was no "feelings" towards her at all, and to me she looked awful, all the things i used to see in her have gone.

[BenZona]

I cannot see the court separating the mother from child, unless the mother was incapable of caring for the child..

WIth the greatest respect, thats a load of bollocks that might well work in a country where you have to bribe your way out of anything from a parking ticket to murder but, this is Australia and http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/ ... s60cc.html
is all that counts

what if the mother wants to return to Thailand. ...

She can go whenever she likes.......Oh wait, she cant afford to now....

I think my friends summed it up nicely, she goes back to the shame of the village and the wrath of her mum for having a half farang baby and no means of support or she finds a mug in Australia stupid enough to take on a half farang baby without questioning why she is suddenly single ....

She has farked up her entire life with what she has done. ce la vie

[bamakmak]

she goes back to the shame of the village and the wrath of her mum for having a half farang baby and no means of support

The obvious concern and care that you have for your son is touching.

[AroyFarang]

she goes back to the shame of the village and the wrath of her mum for having a half farang baby and no means of support

The obvious concern and care that you have for your son is touching.

Why don't you put yourself in his shoes? Think how you would feel if it were you..... By the sounds of it, you'd just lie down and take whatever she could throw at you. Obviously he does have a great deal of concern for his child or he wouldn't have been bothering with looking for his wife so he could have her served with papers, now would he?

I'm amazed by some of you, laughable! I suppose it just shows how brainwashed you have become by your years in Thailand or alternatively your brain has been rotting due to meeting a bad 'un down soi 6 in Pattaya all those years ago!

[maaka]

Benzona I am not trying to rattle your tree, for I have been in your shoes, my ex ran off with my baby, but to another country..alas the courts did not side with me, for she married within months, and the courts viewed a married couple better than a single dad, back in those days.

I know very weel the Austlii link you referred me too, as I used it for caselaw in a number of my submissions.Indeed I persured it several days ago looking for a case that matched your own, but only found a Thai / Aust divorce case without a child involved..

I had never viewed the Family Law Act so thanks for that..having now browsed it I find it equally considers the father and the mothers position in the future wellfare of the child..and I can not see anything there, that would have the court remove the child from the mother on a permanent basis, or for that matter deny you the right of access..as I said before, in my opinion it will come down to a fine balance of shared access..

when I referred to the mother standing on her own feet, I was meaning , without your assistance..I quite understand she has government assistance..

I know you have a mountain on your shoulders right now, but you do need to consider the matter of her possible desire to return home and how that can affect your case..its all very well to say she has not got the money, but she will have come divorce settlement time ( and you are entitled to a share of any monies and holdings she may have back in Thailand ) I want you to tighten thing up now so and ask your lawyer how and what happens in such an invent, and what rights you have and where would you stand..there are many single mother in thailand with farang babies, and the her half of the divorce settlement will wash away any fears of shame in returning home..single and with a baby..

I am not trying to attack you in my threads but offer ideas and hopefully get you to see other things..people looking in from the oitside can see some things you cant..so use that..

I am not in Thailand and I wasnt considering matters along Thai lines, only the dual citizenship matters, I am considering things along Australian lines, not along bribes to LOS BIB..Goodluck to you, as I said I have been there

[Frankie 1]

6000 hits now

Never seen a person on a forum who was so interested in ratings.

Sounds a bit like a commercial TV station. Seems like you need a lot of attention...

It might seem that way is a cock head cuts three words out of context of what was actually said, but not if you avoid the cock heads cut and read the real thing.

and with over 5000 views, if i help one single farang from making the (now known to be) mistake i did, then flaming from a couple of drongos is a small price to pay...

6000 hits now and if it stops one person making the mistake i did with a non bar girl, then im happy.

As if you check ratings to see how many poor men you are helping with this forum topic, ha ha.

Cut the crap, pleasssssssssssssse. It is all about you, you ,you and you. No wonder why she left you.

Posting a submission on StickmanBkk (you are not the first and won't be the last) wouldn't be enough for you, you need at least 12 pages on a forum, and 6000 people reading the soap opera won't be enough either.

[AroyFarang]

Frankie,

You seem as if you like to talk. I like to let people talk who like to talk. It makes it easier to find out how full of
@?£& they are.

[Frankie 1]

Frankie,

You seem as if you like to talk. I like to let people talk who like to talk. It makes it easier to find out how full of
@?£& they are.

Well there you are wrong, I don't like to talk. I like to give feedback on @?£&. I know it's silly, because usually the people who write @?£& aren't interested in feedback at all, but were only interested in their own ego. So, I know, it's a waste of time. Silly me.

[BenZona]

Benzona I am not trying to rattle your tree, for I have been in your shoes, my ex ran off with my baby, but to another country..alas the courts did not side with me, for she married within months, and the courts viewed a married couple better than a single dad, back in those days.

..Goodluck to you, as I said I have been there

I know you were not having a go, and i was not at you either. I was all caffeined out last night.. i must stop drinking the coffee!

Im so sorry to hear what happened to you. Did this happen pre 2006? If i offended you, then i apologise, i thought you were in Thailand.

Its horrible when you lose your kid hey?

[BenZona]

Frankie,

You seem as if you like to talk. I like to let people talk who like to talk. It makes it easier to find out how full of
@?£& they are.

Hes a muppet Aroy.... If he wants to learn what feedback really is, then look at Stan, THATS real feedback What he posted was,just total bollox from someone who has had nothing constructive to say except refer to things he knows nothing about, posted links do dodgy websites and cuts three words out of context to make a point so he can self slap himself on the back.

What a tool

[BenZona]

I know very well the Austlii link you referred me too, as I used it for caselaw in a number of my submissions.Indeed I persured it several days ago looking for a case that matched your own, but only found a Thai / Aust divorce case without a child involved..

Wow, sorry for the double post to you but im humbled by the fact that someone i don't know has done this, ive been doing the same

I had never viewed the Family Law Act so thanks for that..having now browsed it I find it equally considers the father and the mothers position in the future wellfare of the child..and I can not see anything there, that would have the court remove the child from the mother on a permanent basis, or for that matter deny you the right of access..as I said before, in my opinion it will come down to a fine balance of shared access..

You are right on this, unless i can prove what an abusive person she is to children, and i think i can, as she is

when I referred to the mother standing on her own feet, I was meaning , without your assistance..I quite understand she has government assistance.. I know you have a mountain on your shoulders right now, but you do need to consider the matter of her possible desire to return home and how that can affect your case...

I almost wish she did say that in her response, it would make my job a lot easier, but she, for some strange reason is telling the DVO court she wants to leave but... the family court, ALL of what she is asking for is as if she is planning to stay here, there is NO relocation back to Thailand stuff at all,

I dont think you can tell two different courts two different things and not come across as being a tad manipulative. At the time of telling the DVO court she wanted to leave, she was actually arranging her visa to stay. The sensible thing to do would IMO have been to wait until yesterday, make her response a relocation response, and take it from there.

its all very well to say she has not got the money, but she will have come divorce settlement time ( and you are entitled to a share of any monies and holdings she may have back in Thailand ) I want you to tighten thing up now so and ask your lawyer how and what happens in such an invent, and what rights you have and where would you stand..there are many single mother in thailand with farang babies, and the her half of the divorce settlement will wash away any fears of shame in returning home..single and with a baby..

There wont be a divorce settlement, asset poor..Im not a guy with a business, or even (ATM) a house that i own, all my savings are gone and i live month to month She really is financially on her own for as long as she takes to suck in some other mug, If she goes back to Thailand, she will be a burden on her family and will be shamed forever...(probably why she is not asking to relocate hey?) she goes back penniless.

Thanks

[maaka]

Thanks for the insight and update Benzona..
it takes abit more than afew terse words to upset me matey, you'll be right.
mine was pre 2006 alright, it was 1986..scarred me that much I have never lived with another woman again these last 25yrs..no its not nice to come home from work to find a note on the table, your dinner warming in the oven, and an empty cot, and a quiet house, but alas all is not doom and gloom in my situation, I hung in there all the way even though they were off living in another country and trying to create a new sweet little family, and getting my son to call the new husband Papa..she left when he was 18 months old, then left the country when he turned 3yrs.. I flew him over when he was 7, but as soon as he arrived and she phoned to see he had arrived and chatted to him, he wanted to go back, so I had him one night..I flew him over again at 10yrs, I think..the xmas presents I sent well I never heard about them..I was wiped from the map..it wasnt until he was 14yrs old and could think for himself that he secretly wrote to me and asked if he could come and live with me..for 10yrs we had both been longer for each other, it was magic, he stayed until he was 16yrs then she wanted him back to help the family shift house..he came back at 17yr for a quick visit and to ask if he could join the army..I said ok but best do it overseas as better pay and all that, and I knew that we would never live together again..now he is 27yrs engaged and we are the best of mates, I will be flying overseas to spend a xmas with him and his new partner....so there is light at the end of the tunnel mate, you just have to swade thru a heap of sh.t first...

[merchant seaman]

What financial assistance are you providing for your child? You say you are now broke and living pay day to pay day. How are you going to support your child? If the child is living in Thailand or Oz you are still finacially responsible. Or hasn't that factor come into the pitcure?

[Banjo]

There wont be a divorce settlement, asset poor..Im not a guy with a business, or even (ATM) a house that i own, all my savings are gone and i live month to month She really is financially on her own for as long as she takes to suck in some other mug, If she goes back to Thailand, she will be a burden on her family and will be shamed forever...(probably why she is not asking to relocate hey?) she goes back penniless.

It appears you are not considering Child Support payments for the future welfare of your child, but are more obsessed in disgracing and humiliating the mother of your son. Absolutely appalling behaviour. I can see why she left you in the middle of the night with the child. Fight or flight .... and she was tired of fighting.

[Frankie 1]

There wont be a divorce settlement, asset poor..Im not a guy with a business, or even (ATM) a house that i own, all my savings are gone and i live month to month She really is financially on her own for as long as she takes to suck in some other mug, If she goes back to Thailand, she will be a burden on her family and will be shamed forever...(probably why she is not asking to relocate hey?) she goes back penniless.

It appears you are not considering Child Support payments for the future welfare of your child, but are more obsessed in disgracing and humiliating the mother of your son. Absolutely appalling behaviour. I can see why she left you in the middle of the night with the child. Fight or flight .... and she was tired of fighting.

Seems to me that after 12 pages of onesided @?£&, things start to become clear now. He just ran out of money and isn't able to support her anymore.

[AroyFarang]

So Frankie and others,

I think you will find that she left him because she has planned to get an Aussie residence permit from the start. He has explained this already but you choose to see it was because he ran out of money.

So let me talk about that if you will. Ok, so for the sake of argument, he did run out of cash......When you are with a woman and its a good relationship it shouldn't matter if he ran out of money. This happens couples all over the world every minute of every day. They work together to resolve the issue. Why is it different with Thais, when you run out of money, for the most part they seem to do a runner. Now in that case does this make it any better than than what she actually did! If she did this it just proves that she is a money grabber and never cared for him one way or the other. So Frankie, I fail to see what point if any you are making! Either way she is a piece of dog crap!

There are alot of people on this thread that show their ignorance regarding farang/thai couples! There are also alot of people who show no empathy for the crap that this guy has been through. BZ said he hopes that one day you will experience what he is going through so you can feel his pain. I dont feel that way, I hope you lot never have to experience what BZ is going through because i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. A few of you need to step outside your ivory tower!

[nkstan]

So Frankie and others,

I think you will find that she left him because she has planned to get an Aussie residence permit from the start. He has explained this already but you choose to see it was because he ran out of money.

So let me talk about that if you will. Ok, so for the sake of argument, he did run out of cash......When you are with a woman and its a good relationship it shouldn't matter if he ran out of money. This happens couples all over the world every minute of every day. They work together to resolve the issue. Why is it different with Thais, when you run out of money, for the most part they seem to do a runner. Now in that case does this make it any better than than what she actually did! If she did this it just proves that she is a money grabber and never cared for him one way or the other. So Frankie, I fail to see what point if any you are making! Either way she is a piece of dog crap!

There are alot of people on this thread that show their ignorance regarding farang/thai couples! There are also alot of people who show no empathy for the crap that this guy has been through. BZ said he hopes that one day you will experience what he is going through so you can feel his pain. I dont feel that way, I hope you lot never have to experience what BZ is going through because i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. A few of you need to step outside your ivory tower!

WELL SAID! =D> =D> But I disagree with you as far as those having no empathy for the situation,they need to go through it!Makes me wonder why they even post about it!

[Frankie 1]

So Frankie and others,

I think you will find that she left him because she has planned to get an Aussie residence permit from the start. He has explained this already but you choose to see it was because he ran out of money.

So let me talk about that if you will. Ok, so for the sake of argument, he did run out of cash......When you are with a woman and its a good relationship it shouldn't matter if he ran out of money. This happens couples all over the world every minute of every day. They work together to resolve the issue. Why is it different with Thais, when you run out of money, for the most part they seem to do a runner. Now in that case does this make it any better than than what she actually did! If she did this it just proves that she is a money grabber and never cared for him one way or the other. So Frankie, I fail to see what point if any you are making! Either way she is a piece of dog crap!

There are alot of people on this thread that show their ignorance regarding farang/thai couples! There are also alot of people who show no empathy for the crap that this guy has been through. BZ said he hopes that one day you will experience what he is going through so you can feel his pain. I dont feel that way, I hope you lot never have to experience what BZ is going through because i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. A few of you need to step outside your ivory tower!

First of all, you don't know if I went through something similar. For that matter, yes I have been there too, about 6 years ago. Yes, I blamed her, but then I also blamed myself. After that you have to be realistic and move on.

When you start a reltionship with a poor girl from a poor family from a poor part of a developing country, with a culture that is different from your own, then at the beginning of the relationship you already know that probably she has to send money home to support her family, and part of that money has to come from you. You will also be a way out of a poor life, security, safety.

So, when money runs out and she won't be as spoilt or supported as she used to be, then that might be a disillusion for her in a major way and she probably then has to change things in order to keep that security, safety. It is called survival, some people who were born poor have a basic need in order to stay alive.

Maybe it is us farangs who are in an ivory tower, never being able to understand what it is like to be poor.

[Frankie 1]

(in June)

I paid no sin sod, got married overseas, until the wife was officially the wife and pregnant last year i gave her hardly any money and the most i have got her parents is a washing machine, even after we got married i sent her 5000 baht every two weeks, and no more

We are still together two years later, and have a new baby. It seemed to have worked. There was a time, for about two weeks about a year and a half ago when she said give me money or she will not talk to me, so i said bye bye and two weeks later she was on the phone saying sorry

I cant believe how many westerners get sucked in to the money train/drain, its laughable, you would think they value their pensions more

This looks like BenZona overplayed his hand. It seems that acting as a Scrooge didn't turn out the way he thought.

[AroyFarang]

This is a really silly reply to my post. I used the word empathy in my post which nkstan already pointed out. So the first two lines of your reply are out.
Why, if you bring her to your own country do you think you should still have to give her money to send home to her family? Why cant she work like other women in your country and support her family that way? Answer she can but because her stupid farang boyfriend excepts her stupid arguments of her english not being good enough etc she doesn't. She gets to do exactly what she did in Thailand, sits and does nothing all day except watch reruns of the x factor on the net and texts her friends! (This is a generalisation i know but based on years and years of my own experience and that of my friends) You are correct in your last line about providing her safety, security and a way out of a poor life and it should be remembered that this is the ONLY thing you offer her.

Your third paragraph, well i summed it up in my last paragraph and on my last post. This just makes her a money grabbing bitch!

As far as being poor, the vast majority of farangs I've met in Thailand come from poor backgrounds and poor education. They know exactly what its like to be poor and so do I!

Just in answer to your last post Frankie, First you said we dont know what its like to be poor and now you are calling BZ a scrooge! Interesting as he has already admitted to being cash and asset challenged shall we say!

I learned a long time ago that i love Thailand and I love the ladies BUT after a divorce to one of them and a few unsuccessful tries at a long term relationships with others, I prefer to meet a nice one and at the end of the holiday, go home and forget them!