You really cant tell can you? (Wife leaves me)

[BenZona]

Ok, i asked Lee to unlock this to share what happened today. Not so much for the outcome, but to one thing that she said that, to be honest, was shocking to hear being said under oath, in a courtroom.

I actually got to see my son last week it was very emotional I only saw him for two hours, but at least i saw him..

Anyway.......

As predicted, the truth prevailed and the DVO thingy was (after a scathing attack by the judge on her) dropped by her lawyer mid hearing. I did not even have to give evidence. To say she came across as a lying aggressive visa cheating nut job is an understatement.

The judge even went as far as banning her from using an interpreter as she clearly was pretending not to understand English, and he picked it in 15 minutes and let her know very firmly to stop bullshitting the court!

After she had finished they then said they didn't need to hear from me and that (talking to her lawyers) he saw absolutely no truth in what she had said and that he thought she was just using the hearing as a custody tool and that he would have "great difficulty" making any orders against me.

They went off for 3 minutes, and came back and told the judge they were dropping the case (yay) he said "that is a very good decision"

She was getting angry in the stand, i could not believe what i was seeing, it was like she was not caring at all about how she was coming across.. but the worst, the very worst was right near the end

She was asked a question along the lines of

"if things were so bad and he was so nasty why did you not leave him in 2009 and 2010 when you had a return ticket to thailand OR when he was in Australia and you were at home

She looked at my lawyer and said two words, only two, they were , there was hardly any time between the end of the question and the tone of voice she used was a sort of "isn't it obvious" voice

the words were

MY VISA.

I nearly fell off my chair, here she was, under oath, in front of a judge saying she had not left me, since mid 2009 to August of 2011 (the period she claims things were bad) so she could get her visa...... even the judge looked shocked.

So there you are, it was proved today that things happened EXACTLY AS I SAID. It is proved, she IS a lying visa scammer who went as far as to have a kid with a western man in order to get her visa......

what a dog

thanks Lee

[Astana]

I hope that you get to see more of your son.

[jackspratt]

For some balance, I hope we get to read about the other side of this story - a link to the court transcript would suffice.

Otherwise, what is the point of unlocking the thread?

[MALC]

well done benzona.i am glad lee unlocked it so every one can see,who was right and who was wrong.well done the judge

[Barstool]

Surely we are not all expected to believe the words of Mr BenZona; utter piffle. JackSpratt politely alluded to my condemnation of this sad saga of self-indulgence.
Why is it that Thai, or Wife, bashing seems to be the criteria to re-open a thread. You invited her to your country and when she was surplus to requirements, you abondoned her; ignominious.
Hang your head in shame, BenZona .. even if it was all true, your crusade is all the more shameful being exposed on public forum.

[Barstool]

Furthermore, this tale has all the hallmarks of a thread of three or so years ago posted by a member based near Phen who opened an eponymous restaurant, whose condemnation of his wife was utter, one-sided dross, and who left Thailand with debts all over the province ... including someone named Ma.....
Wise up guys, please

[pienmash]

I keep seeing this thread re appearing so thort i would just add my 2 bobs worth ,,,,, dont know if Benzoma or his missus are at fault , is he a piss head jerk ,? is she a gambling hi low junkie repeat gold porning addicte .....

My point being why would someone want to air this sort of bashing either way on an open forum ,, surely better sorted on the private side of the fence ... IMO .

THIS THREAD MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT PICTURES !!!!!

[bamakmak]

I believe that any version relayed to us concerning what took place in the courtroom is highly suspect. It is one side of the story only. As a case in point, in his version of the court hearing, BenZona says:

The judge even went as far as banning her from using an interpreter as she clearly was pretending not to understand English

Does anyone reading this forum actually believe this? We have a woman in court whose native language is Thai. She is accompanied with her interpreter. And, because the judge believes she is pretending not to understand english, BANS her from using an interpreter? Oh, come on, let's get real!!

Perhaps a more likely version (if we assume that she stopped using an interpreter at some point during the hearing) was that the judge asked her if she understood what was being discussed in court in english. She probably answered yes. The judge then may have suggested that in the interest of moving the proceedings along more quickly, they not use the interpreter unless she needed assistance with certain words or phrases or was confused about what was being said.

This is just one example of how Benzona may have distorted the facts.

Like Jackspratt and others have said, unless we have some kind of unbiased accounting of what took place, there is no way we're going to know what actually took place. But BenZona, please keep it coming. It makes for good fictional reading.

[merchant seaman]

I'm a bit confused. What charges were filed for this to go to court? And what was the courts outcome? In other words was there a winner and loser?

[Barstool]

I'm a bit confused. What charges were filed for this to go to court? And what was the courts outcome? In other words was there a winner and loser?

Quite, Merchant Seaman. But there again, having used his wife as nothing more than a foetal incubator and then discovering she has a heart and soul, I should think the OP is pretty confused as well

[maaka]

I assume its a Family Court case centered around parental rights and access to the child, who the child lives with, and whats in the best interests of the child..etc etc..

I doubt the Family Court has anything to do with divorce settlements, or supposed Visa Fraud. I say ''supposed ' because even if it were true, she is married to the man, has a son by him, and has lived in Australia for 2 yrs, so I guess she is entitled to stay now, whether her prior goal was just to get residency, or not. Indeed, If I go back to my first sentence, I cannot see a Court throw her out of Australia, because that would not be in the best interests of the child.

Dennison v Wang, 2010, Family Court Australia, tough case, wife claims abuse and sexual assault to her and daughters, husband claims wife is physco and gone in the head..

Ms Wang used five interpreters over a 20 day period in court. The judge found her to be avoiding the questions, and indeed using the interpreters to her advantage. In the end the judge referred to her lawyer for questioning, and made his final decision based in part on what the lawyer answered, and what Ms Wang answered..

[BenZona]

well done benzona.i am glad lee unlocked it so every one can see,who was right and who was wrong.well done the judge

Thanks matey. She got full on told she was a liar and a cheat yesterday, and not by me, by a man who judges

I'm a bit confused. What charges were filed for this to go to court? And what was the courts outcome? In other words was there a winner and loser?

There are no winners in this situation Mr Seaman, but yesterday i won. (think about it)

Quite, Merchant Seaman. But there again, having used his wife as nothing more than a foetal incubator and then discovering she has a heart and soul, I should think the OP is pretty confused as well

You are probably the biggest idiot on this whole forum

I believe that any version relayed to us concerning what took place in the courtroom is highly suspect. It is one side of the story only. As a case in point, in his version of the court hearing, BenZona says:

The judge even went as far as banning her from using an interpreter as she clearly was pretending not to understand English

Does anyone reading this forum actually believe this? We have a woman in court whose native language is Thai. She is accompanied with her interpreter. And, because the judge believes she is pretending not to understand english, BANS her from using an interpreter? Oh, come on, let's get real!!

Perhaps a more likely version (if we assume that she stopped using an interpreter at some point during the hearing) was that the judge asked her if she understood what was being discussed in court in english. She probably answered yes. The judge then may have suggested that in the interest of moving the proceedings along more quickly, they not use the interpreter unless she needed assistance with certain words or phrases or was confused about what was being said.

This is just one example of how Benzona may have distorted the facts.

Like Jackspratt and others have said, unless we have some kind of unbiased accounting of what took place, there is no way we're going to know what actually took place. But BenZona, please keep it coming. It makes for good fictional reading.

If anything, i under exaggerated what he said, not over, he said what i wrote, and a WHOLE lot more to her as well.

For some balance, I hope we get to read about the other side of this story - a link to the court transcript would suffice.

hahaha yer right Jack, a link to the transcript.. which is now worth its weight in gold... i dont think so. Rest assured Jack, the transcript IS coming, but just not to be used on you .....

Its been 24 hours since i write this, i was pretty tired last night, I have had a few requests to keep SOME people updated, and that's why i asked for the thread to be reopened. I had to actually phone my lawyer today to just make sure i heard what i heard yesterday, they confirmed it all. They wrote it down word for word, they is as stunned as i am.

thanks guys, early evening entertainment at its best....

[jackspratt]

For some balance, I hope we get to read about the other side of this story - a link to the court transcript would suffice.

hahaha yer right Jack, a link to the transcript.. which is now worth its weight in gold... i dont think so. Rest assured Jack, the transcript IS coming, but just not to be used on you .....

I guess we will all need to stay enthralled with just one side of the story then.

Good to see you were able to top up your bank of pejoratives about your wife, by adding "dog" to "bitch" and "*****".

Classy.

[BenZona]

For some balance, I hope we get to read about the other side of this story - a link to the court transcript would suffice.

hahaha yer right Jack, a link to the transcript.. which is now worth its weight in gold... i dont think so. Rest assured Jack, the transcript IS coming, but just not to be used on you .....

I guess we will all need to stay enthralled with just one side of the story then.

Good to see you were able to top up your bank of pejoratives about your wife, by adding "dog" to "bitch" and "*****".

Classy.

I think ive said this before but why are you concerned? demeaning to wimmen ---------------------------> (points at your avatar)
id say i was being polite

[merchant seaman]

The judge said she was a liar and a cheat. So what was the verdict or is that it that she is a liar and a cheat? So who has the son now? Certianly not with a liar and a cheat. Doesn't seem anything was really setled by the court. Actually can't really understand what they where in court for. Not even been mentioned if charges were filed with the police, you would think that would be the first step, then an investigation by the police. Something just isn't right with this whole escapade but it sure makes interesting reading. Can't wait for the movie to come out.

[Bandung_Dero]

I cannot see the court separating the mother from child, unless the mother was incapable of caring for the child..

WIth the greatest respect, thats a load of bollocks that might well work in a country where you have to bribe your way out of anything from a parking ticket to murder but, this is Australia and http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/ ... s60cc.html
is all that counts

So what have you achieved after ‘appearing’ to have had the DVO quashed! Practically nothing, accept maybe clearing your position. Maaka’s statement here still makes more sense than yours even after the hearing.

MY VISA.

I nearly fell off my chair, here she was, under oath, in front of a judge saying she had not left me, since mid 2009 to August of 2011 (the period she claims things were bad) so she could get her visa...... even the judge looked shocked.

So here she has told the court the truth, that will go in her favor during what could turn out to be a messy family law court custody hearing. I would guess she has very smart counsel.

So there you are, it was proved today that things happened EXACTLY AS I SAID. It is proved, she IS a lying visa scammer who went as far as to have a kid with a western man in order to get her visa......

IMO the family law court will not give a toss that you were ‘scammed’. In your words she has lied to and taken advantage of you, I don’t see her as a “dog” but a winner the way you are portraying things.

Looking forward to the ‘actual’ transcripts, and not the one your lawyer took!

[BenZona]

So what have you achieved after ‘appearing’ to have had the DVO quashed! Practically nothing, accept maybe clearing your position. Maaka’s statement here still makes more sense than yours even after the hearing.

If thats what you want to "appear" then you believe it, I know why yesterday was so good..so continue to talk bollox plz

So here she has told the court the truth, that will go in her favor during what could turn out to be a messy family law court custody hearing. I would guess she has very smart counsel..

Obviously written by someone who has absolutely no idea whatsoever about 60cc, the stupidity of what you wrote barely deserves a response, its pathetic

IMO the family law court will not give a toss that you were ‘scammed’. In your words she has lied to and taken advantage of you, I don’t see her as a “dog” but a winner the way you are portraying things.

refer to my previous statement

Looking forward to the ‘actual’ transcripts, and not the one your lawyer took!

like ure ever going to see them

any more crap to spout on stuff you know nothing about? im all ears

[Banjo]

This demonstrates quite outlandish, peculiar and irrational behaviour on behalf of the OP who is clearly flaunting on a Public Forum of his glorious victory in the Family Law Court of Australia. It is an absolutely appalling performance of the actions of a mature adult and father. I do feel for the mother being in a foreign country and, notwithstanding alleged physical or emotional violence between the parents or any other alleged reckless behaviour, having to endure such an emotive and stressful matter while caring for a young child.

It appears that the OP does not have the presence of mind to consider the future welfare and education of this child, but is obsessed in the humiliation, degradation and disgrace of the mother of his child. This is of immense concern as there has been no mention of voluntary Child Support payments from the OP to the mother or of the establishment of Trust/Education Investment Fund for the future well-being of the child. Possibly the OP, who on his own admission 'lives month to month on his income', is more committed to paying legal fees for his own exultation. However, Australia does have Legal Aid at no cost for those less fortunate to afford legal representation.

The Child Support Agency in Australia are particularly commendable with their work. If the OP has neglected to pay Child Support payments, that are calculated on gross income and, though the payment formula has changed recently and is rather cumbersome, is subject to interest on arrears. Child Support payments can and will be garnished from income in a private and secure operation should any incumbents neglect this essential responsibility.

I do hope that the malevolence exhibited by the OP will diminish with time and the future welfare and cordiality of himself, the mother and the child is established. Time is often an adept healer.

[merchant seaman]

According to him she scammed him for over 2 years. She must be very smart or he is very stupid. The more I read of this the more I tend to support the lady. Seems his ego has gotten the best of him. She wins to a degree, he totally loses. No matter the outcome he will be supporting the child no matter who gets coustody, which will be the mother. Who ever is at fault he will still be legally obligated to support the child and should so willingly or less he isn't a man, which I believe the case to be. Oh poor me, feel sorry for me, I got scammed by a village girl. BULLOCKS!!

[Barstool]

This is incredible. Initially I thought this Benzona was a complete troll and now it transpires that he actually believes himself and believes his course of misogyny and bigotry. As anyone knows, this self loathing will lead to a certain degree of self- destruction and there is only one person to blame.
How on earth would any female (or male for that matter) want to co-habit with kind of individual.
One can hardly help but notice that his prior supporters have been somewhat muted by his reprehensible rhetoric.
Good luck to the wrteched mother of his child ... a child, by the way, that is being used as nothing more than a rope in a tug-of-war.
Shameful