Need help in building of new house

[fatbob]

by kopkei » March 25, 2013, 8:42 pm

well without meaning to offend anyone , only thing i can conclude is that not many people are aware of the real building material prices and also labor fees , only thing i can say here is that you never must compare prices with your home country , but only within thailand ....45.000 baht labor to build only a garage ? i am sure they will be satisfied....not say no more

At the moment its only a dream, tell us how much it cost when you complete it.

[harmonyudon]

@Kopkei, how much is it you think to build a 32m2 bungalow with the same quality/specs as your garage incl toilet, tiles etc. All standard quality.

[KHONDAHM]

well without meaning to offend anyone , only thing i can conclude is that not many people are aware of the real building material prices and also labor fees , only thing i can say here is that you never must compare prices with your home country , but only within thailand ....45.000 baht labor to build only a garage ? i am sure they will be satisfied....not say no more

Well, you'd be arriving at an incorrect conclusion. The "real" price is not a pittance fee one might bargain from the village farmer who dabbles in construction between harvests. Just as in America, the "real" price isn't the below minimum wage price one might pay a day-laborer picked up outside the local Home Depot. Same thing, different paradigm. I'd rather not have a day-laborer calling himself a Chang building for me in Thailand. Been there, done that (too many times), and never gonna do it again.

Don't get it twisted: One might get it on the super-cheap from a day-laboring farmer, but don't ever think that's not what you are getting.

[KHONDAHM]

At the risk of hijacking the thread, here's how one SHOULD handle the paradigm shift to know if one is paying a fair price for most things:

The rule of 10x. Think of how much you would pay in [America] for something. A soda, for example, is $1.5-2. 10x is 20. 20 is 20 baht. 20 baht is a fair price for a soft drink here in Thailand. In America, I could reasonable expect to pay (more than) $4,500 labor for a quality garage at a bargain labor rate. 10x 4,500 = 45,000 baht. Think of a typical home. I could reasonably expect to pay $200,000 for a decent single family home in a median housing city/area. 10x 200,000 = 2,000,000 baht is what I could reasonable expect to pay for the same here in LOS.

And so on. Works for almost everything except cars or electronics.

Cheers!

[kopkei]

bad thinking and comparing khondahm, only thing i am going to say on this ...as long as you are happy...no problem...
and if you think you get better quality by hiring fe a building company , with all their architects enc...
well they are using the same people from baan nook to build whom are probably under payed , and most of the time you end up with same quality home , you only pay more for the royalties of the company , read down payment of their fortuner, benz?, and fee for all unnecessary to many people employed by them ,( a little bit like the skirts remark with the charoen optics, if you know what i mean..)the used materials will be same as of the labor , more expensive doesn't mean always also better .... but as i stated before ...as long as you are happy ...
@george...a bungalow of 32 m2, if it would be my bungalow, i would surely not pay more than 250.000 all in , standard but good materials, i even think i would end up more low than 250..( now thunder and lightning will come to me )
@coxo , as promised i will post later a detailed cost of the garage, but this will take some time , as we have just started to build our new home and the garage will be last...

[KHONDAHM]

My good friend, the last thing I would do would be to hire a company. I have NO idea where you misread that. My guy used to be the foreman for the best of them. The more affluent of members on this board might just be living in a home he built. For good personal reasons, he doesn't work with companies anymore. Their loss, my gain.

Yes, he does bring in the same specialist teams when needed. They may be moonlighting from their company gigs or between gigs.

I do not mind your criticism of the 10x rule. It works (both ways) and that is a fact. Facts are open to critism, but they are still facts.

[kopkei]

sorry khondahm , i interpreted your post wrong , i was assuming if you pay 900 baht / M2 to build a garage you are using one of those so called experienced bureau's....my mistake...
@george l. In theory a bit more bahts for a toilet/bahtroom, windows, tyles etc.. You have a small resort bungalow, let's say total 100.000bht. Possible or not?, i did not see this one , but indeed george a resort bungalow , is mostly smaller than my garage , must be easy to build in the price range of 60.000-100.000 baht...

[kopkei]

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[harmonyudon]

...@george l. In theory a bit more bahts for a toilet/bahtroom, windows, tyles etc.. You have a small resort bungalow, let's say total 100.000bht. Possible or not?, i did not see this one , but indeed george a resort bungalow , is mostly smaller than my garage , must be easy to build in the price range of 60.000-100.000 baht...

Thanks for your reply KopKei. This can be very interesting if someone have (ready to build) land already and plan to make a simple resort and target it on Thais. I know of such a resort behind Global house and the average booking per bungalow is 2-3x per day hehehe

[tally]

Quote from Harmony "I know of such a resort behind Global house and the average booking per bungalow is 2-3x per day hehehe" Nice one, appeels to my sense of humour...

We built a house out in Kut Chap (2 bedroom, Bathroom, kitchen, living room and large front porch), very frustrating, the builder did a great job but in his own time, I could just not hurry this guy up, and when the planting season started he went missing for days. Agreed on a build price up front and he was acceptable to house changes that I requested as the build went on. We did get the house finished but took longer than he had told us. But as my missus would tell me “Up to Him” best of luck to your house challenges and please let us know how it went…

Thanks
Tally

[KHONDAHM]

Just a quick update to my project's costs FWIW. Materials + labor for pouring the ~50 sqm floor came out to ~20k. The finish is like Central Plaza's parking garage and I put some extra gravel (large, road size) for additional hardness before pouring as well as wall-to-wall 6 mil plastic for a vapor and ant/insect barrier. Easy to clean and low dust.

[mrgman]

Can I contact you?
I have Architect, Engineer Team and I can help with supervising the builders for closed project