How guys lose it all in Thailand

Post by **Barney** » June 17, 2013, 2:03 pm

Coxo wrote
I started holidaying in Indonesia in the late 70's untill the early 90's, I went there every year at least two times per year, each trip never less than one month, I traveled from the southern tip of Java to the north tip on the west coast over the years well off the beaten path surfing, I have worked in Vietnam, India and spent a lot of time in Cambodia, what you are saying is a load of sh-t.

Coxo i am jealous, you were living my young dream way back then, I loved to surf mainly down the south coast NSW and always wanted to travel and surf but got caught up in a bloody apprenticeship and playing league and cricket. I started travelling though with a later work life and worked in Ghana, Saudi Arabia , china, Vietnam, thailand and singapore and lately PNG. All for long term projects eventually settling in Vietnam for a bout 8 years. Way down south in Bach lieu with my latest house.
Was a good way similar to your journey to learn different cultures and spot so called scammers way off. Not all scammers have the vertical smile between their legs.
Thanks for the surfing memories.

Post by **maaka** » June 17, 2013, 2:25 pm

you fella's might know my mate Moose, if you have surfed west Java / Sumatra

Post by **fatbob** » June 17, 2013, 2:43 pm

jai yen yen wrote:Sorry to make you feel depressed, I did not realize how sensitive you are. By the way I was not complaining about Thailand, just commenting on my experiences there. It is what it is. I think if you were truly happy with your life in Udon you would not get so upset with people relating their experiences. Sometimes the truth is painful to hear but it is still the truth. I will let my Thai wife and her mother know that you suggested that anyone who complains about YOUR Thailand should leave. Maybe we can get them a free ride to the airport from you.

You don't make me depressed, it is you that is depressing, you remind me of a blue healer, you won't let go!

Post by **fatbob** » June 17, 2013, 3:24 pm

G'day Maaka and Barney, great subject surfing and travel. I ended up spending most of my time in West Java at a place called Pabluan Ratu, great right hander, rare in Indo, got good waves at Pangandaran and a place called Batu Karas in central java and Pacitan in east java, didn't come across Moose that I know of. Great times and good people. Barney I did a job in Vietnam on the Con Dao Archipelago a few years ago, great place and surf have you been there? Where on the south coast did you surf? I spent 20 years at Merimbula, still got a few acre's there and my shouse (shed from the outside, house from the inside). As you say with the scammers in Asia, most have white skin and round eyes and post on UM! I'm heading to PNG or around New Britian Island in August for a few weeks fishing, should be good, might take deezer and jai yen yen along for bait!

Post by **Barney** » June 17, 2013, 4:17 pm

coxo wrote:G'day Maaka and Barney, great subject surfing and travel. I ended up spending most of my time in West Java at a place called Pabluan Ratu, great right hander, rare in Indo, got good waves at Pangandaran and a place called Batu Karas in central java and Pacitan in east java, didn't come across Moose that I know of. Great times and good people. Barney I did a job in Vietnam on the Con Dao Archipelago a few years ago, great place and surf have you been there? Where on the south coast did you surf? I spent 20 years at Merimbula, still got a few acre's there and my shouse (shed from the outside, house from the inside). As you say with the scammers in Asia, most have white skin and round eyes and post on UM! I'm heading to PNG or around New Britian Island in August for a few weeks fishing, should be good, might take deezer and jai yen yen along for bait!

Slightly off topic now but Actually do not think I will lose it all in Thailand as I already lost it all by getting old and ceasing the young surfing lifestyle. Grew up in engadine in the 70's and once we got our license would head off on weekend surf trips with a loaf of bread a can of bake beans and a can of ricecream for dessert and surf anywhere from Garie to Ulladulla. Winter was best, start a fire on the beach at daybreak, surf for a few hours then warm by said fire. Great no care stress free life.
Can Dao never been there but lived and worked in Vung tau and Phu My for some time and built my first Vietnam house there. Can Dao I think was a penal colony for the french to send the vietnamese bad boys against colonialism. Big mistake by the french, the vietnamese took over the island and killed them all , the beginning of the vietnamese march to victory.Remeber learnign some of the histroy.
Good luck with the fishing in PNG. Heard it is good. Take DEEZER AND jAI YEN YEN but not as bait. I am sure they are good blokes and would have some terrific stories over a beer at night on the boat deck.

Post by **jackspratt** » June 17, 2013, 4:27 pm

Barney wrote: Take DEEZER AND jAI YEN YEN but not as bait.

May be too late for dezzer - sounds like he has already been hooked and thrown back ........... a couple of times.

Post by **jai yen yen** » June 17, 2013, 11:36 pm

coxo wrote:
jai yen yen wrote:Sorry to make you feel depressed, I did not realize how sensitive you are. By the way I was not complaining about Thailand, just commenting on my experiences there. It is what it is. I think if you were truly happy with your life in Udon you would not get so upset with people relating their experiences. Sometimes the truth is painful to hear but it is still the truth. I will let my Thai wife and her mother know that you suggested that anyone who complains about YOUR Thailand should leave. Maybe we can get them a free ride to the airport from you.
You don't make me depressed, it is you that is depressing, you remind me of a blue healer, you won't let go!

Actually it is a pit bull that really won't let go, great dogs they are but I will let go now with one last comment for you. I have related all of our discussion on this topic to my wife, her comment was, He needs to wake up. That says it all I think, could have saved me a lot of typing. Peace and happiness to you.

Post by **vlad** » June 18, 2013, 12:09 am

Have to agree with you jai time to let go as it has turned into a slanging match like all post's tend too. My last post on this subject too. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to voice it if you don't like it or it isn't your view ignore it, there is no need to have a go because you don't agree you have your opinions of Thai trust and honesty as do we.

Post by **maaka** » June 18, 2013, 4:08 am

Yo Coxo and Barney google ' mentawaisurfcharterboat ' for Moose Matthews and Kuda Laut...Never to old Barney. The waves havent gone anywhere, so dust off the boardshorts, get the bucket list out.

Life is full of losing things OP, whether it be in Thailand, or Alaska, only to then find something new..how else would we learn from our mistakes na kap

Post by **Paullovesoldfords** » June 28, 2013, 4:44 pm

How do guys lose it all in thailand? Usually the little head is doing all the thinking not the big one! But more seriously if you are a tad nieve or on a bit of a downer its easy to get swept along in the los you have probably come from some cold and depressing country and suddenly the sun in shining exotic flona abounds and on top of that theres cheap beer and pussy in every bar.who would'nt fall in love! So now youve got beer goggle on and the world is your lobster WRONG its there lobster and your just a crusty old barnical?! land is cheap so what if you don't own it its only a few grand build a house of course darling i'd love to of course we need a truck to get the blocks and cement!! And before you know it your life savings have gone!! Based on a true story mine!!!1

Post by **ting_tong** » June 29, 2013, 11:46 am

One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster

Post by **pompui** » June 29, 2013, 12:04 pm

If going to lose everything in Thailand,then at least leave Thailand without the lass getting a divorce through the courts.Should cause her grief waiting to hitch on to another unsuspecting farang,not sure for how long though

Post by **mortiboy** » June 29, 2013, 1:37 pm

I did it......At a price! 30,000 baht
Wife was in Uk. When she got back, Surprise Surprise.!

Post by **Paullovesoldfords** » June 29, 2013, 3:14 pm

Maybe i should have devorced the lass before leaving but at least theres one shark that can only operate at half speed!!
I did suggest that if she gave the sin sod back i would agree but that just sent her into a rage!!

Post by **TGSA01** » June 29, 2013, 5:44 pm

I am moving permanently to Udon Thani from Africa in December, and I am (was...) looking very much forward to living there. But after reading many of the posts on the udonmap forums, I get almost depressed and wonder whether I have made a huge mistake by moving to Thailand. Yes, every country has its problems and issues but so far, I have met mostly friendly and helpful Thais, and I appreciate that. It would be nice though if there were more positive comments about the country, as if all was as bad as stated by many, surely most people would want move to another country? Or are things really THAT bad in Isaan?

Post by **pompui** » June 29, 2013, 6:29 pm

Let her sweat it out for a while before agreeing to the Divorce.What was the sinsod,makeup bag,cash or new pair of melons

Hope to see you back here in LOS with a fresh outlook on life,everyone is missing you

Post by **Paullovesoldfords** » June 29, 2013, 6:47 pm

She will definatly sweat it out. She never did get the air con unit she wanted!! As for the sin sod you know how generous
i am it was 2 bottles of 100 pipers and half a box of leo!!

Post by **semperfiguy** » June 29, 2013, 7:02 pm

Paullovesoldfords wrote:Maybe i should have devorced the lass before leaving but at least theres one shark that can only operate at half speed!!
I did suggest that if she gave the sin sod back i would agree but that just sent her into a rage!!

The request for a sin sod payment would have been the only red flag that I needed to prompt me to run in the opposite direction. Just last month my wife and I were asked to help out a 73 year old Aussie guy who had fallen head over heels with a 49 year old school teacher who had three adult children, a 2 million baht debt against her mother's house and a new loan on a 1 million plus pick-up truck. She was trying to railroad the poor guy into paying a huge sin sod to her mother "else her mother wouldn't allow her to see him anymore". How many guys come here and get suckered into paying sin sod out of pure ignorance of the traditional rules?

Post by **Paullovesoldfords** » June 29, 2013, 8:31 pm

Yes looking back i should have run for the hills. but
Like they say theres no fool like an old fool!! And she was lovely to start with?!

Post by **plumbers** » June 29, 2013, 11:06 pm

I live my life by gut feelings and i always take notice of these feeling i ignore at my own peril.
My girl friend i have been with for two and half years and the same as Paullovesold fords mentions she is lovely but i do notice a dark side so i am very wary .
Having said that my ex a english lady attempted to to cheat me out of a house in 2003 i will not bore you all with the details but i had to fight to get my share , once a lady Thai english or what ever has set her mind to dump you and head for better things you need to be on the ball and she will not consider you at all .
I hope things come right for you Paulovesoldfords i know how you feel so your not alone and you will not be the last.