25k baht per month does seem excessive......think about it,thats over 800 baht per day on food only.
Three of you could eat daily at a good farang restaurant for that amount and still have change.
It is a tricky situation.....maybe just try giving her a set amount each month to buy food and say "thats it,no more."
She wont like going hungry,for sure and keep some money back to feed yourself only at the end of the month if she overbudgets ?
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we kept the daily numbers once already, she just couldn't stay with it. The more I pushed on it the more I needed the aforementioned vest. 
We can afford more if need be to live the way I would like to see my retirement years. I have a budget to live by as well, I pay all insurances car repairs ect. The Goal is to pay the house off in three years. ( I now have a 30 year lease) I can do that, if I can get her to stay on the budget. She will get a Stipend form the VA when I die and about 750K in life insurance is the baht stays where it is currently.
I tried stocks she just kept spending the dividends instead of reinvesting for bigger dividends in the future, defeated the entire purpose. Cashed to stocks in bought the farm. some manner of additional income. She refuses to work on it. Gave to the brother in hopes he would turn it around for both is them. Right now that isn't working out real well either, I will give it another month and see if I will carry on with my four year plan. If not I stop the funding.
I can stop all the arguments just not think of he future then I can live anyway I care to, I have enough to live comfortably, pay up to 30K a moth for food if I wish. But for he to be debt free she needs to help. That being said Most Thai' her included if she has money today that's a good day. We need to spend it.
This is really my last shot at worrying about her future, To the extent of losing the retirement level I worked years for.
I wonder sometimes if she doesn't care about the future why should I. Years of this, not worth the arguments when in the end it really want effect me. Dead people don't eat much.
So I appreciate the input and I will try the ideas. So we will see where it goes. I'm like Jack I refuse to give money out each day. The effort here i to make sure I'm adding enough to he budget. That is going to require me at a minimum to tag along.
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We can afford more if need be to live the way I would like to see my retirement years. I have a budget to live by as well, I pay all insurances car repairs ect. The Goal is to pay the house off in three years. ( I now have a 30 year lease) I can do that, if I can get her to stay on the budget. She will get a Stipend form the VA when I die and about 750K in life insurance is the baht stays where it is currently.
I tried stocks she just kept spending the dividends instead of reinvesting for bigger dividends in the future, defeated the entire purpose. Cashed to stocks in bought the farm. some manner of additional income. She refuses to work on it. Gave to the brother in hopes he would turn it around for both is them. Right now that isn't working out real well either, I will give it another month and see if I will carry on with my four year plan. If not I stop the funding.
I can stop all the arguments just not think of he future then I can live anyway I care to, I have enough to live comfortably, pay up to 30K a moth for food if I wish. But for he to be debt free she needs to help. That being said Most Thai' her included if she has money today that's a good day. We need to spend it.
This is really my last shot at worrying about her future, To the extent of losing the retirement level I worked years for.
I wonder sometimes if she doesn't care about the future why should I. Years of this, not worth the arguments when in the end it really want effect me. Dead people don't eat much.
So I appreciate the input and I will try the ideas. So we will see where it goes. I'm like Jack I refuse to give money out each day. The effort here i to make sure I'm adding enough to he budget. That is going to require me at a minimum to tag along.
Thanks Guys
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I think 25k is a little over the top if as you say simply for food, but we spend that much in the main supermarkets every month. However that does include non food items which go in the same basket, they run up more than the food sometimes, for example, a packet of washing powder over 300bht, add on the softner, bleach and ironing starch and the many other consumables needed to keep the home clean then it is quite a reasonable figure in my view.
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Well it does include those things, staying reasonable is the key. Thanks True Brit
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How on earth can spend 25,000 baht a month?
Must be living lavishly. Not that I'm envious or criticizing, but Gees!
My grocery bill is about 6000 baht.My freezer, and fridge always full.
Cupboard full to the brim. Mayben one has have big family I dont know.
I only have wife and two kids here.
I do buy meat throughout the month now and then.
But no more than about 2,000 baht
Most of my food is Farang too. Wife scoffs it away well too.
Must be living lavishly. Not that I'm envious or criticizing, but Gees!
My grocery bill is about 6000 baht.My freezer, and fridge always full.
Cupboard full to the brim. Mayben one has have big family I dont know.
I only have wife and two kids here.
I do buy meat throughout the month now and then.
But no more than about 2,000 baht
Most of my food is Farang too. Wife scoffs it away well too.
Mai mee tahng !
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Obviously you haven't taken into consideration the physique of each individual varies considerably and therefore the amount of food needed to satisfy their appetite does as well. Whilst you being rather small built may be happy at that level both Bump and I being rather plumper need more. It's like comparing the two huge dogs you have diets with someone having a minature poodle. Whilst the poodle could be fed on 500bht a month your two must eat at least that amount daily , if fed properly.mortiboy wrote:How on earth can spend 25,000 baht a month?
Must be living lavishly. Not that I'm envious or criticizing, but Gees!
My grocery bill is about 6000 baht.My freezer, and fridge always full.
Cupboard full to the brim. Mayben one has have big family I dont know.
I only have wife and two kids here.
I do buy meat throughout the month now and then.
But no more than about 2,000 baht
Most of my food is Farang too. Wife scoffs it away well too.
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Hoe dare you say I small built! 
I just eat normal as most people! Rather be that than a fat "person"
......... 90 Kilo and 5' 9 thats average I would say!
I just eat normal as most people! Rather be that than a fat "person"
......... 90 Kilo and 5' 9 thats average I would say!
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Except for Thai ladies......... the physique of each individual varies considerably and therefore the amount of food needed to satisfy their appetite does as well.
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While I have been here for a few years, it never ceases to amaze me why we either complain and moan or congratulate our spouses on their spending, be they spendthrifts or miserly .
I gave my wife after marriage about 20k a month and with that she had to manage, with bills and all that stuff, including paying for the kids clothes etc . But then I must admit farang food stuffs were only really obtainable at tops with a smattering at Big 'C'. Nowadays all things have increased in price and with the availability of more delicious and sometimes expensive farang food, bills will go up.
gas,electric,Diesel,petrol have all increased as has food. I find that cutting down on alcohol rather than food pays all sorts of dividends, but that's me.
If you moan about how much she spends then go shopping with her, pay all the bills , I sometimes do feel embarrassed when I see a farang counting out eh money for the wife at a checkout, she often looks embarrassed and even more so when he is quietly whinging about this and that.
basically i think if you have to watch the spending and you also check all the bills there is something wrong, sure i don't never have and probably never will, main bills are paid by me, luxuries are paid by me, planning for extra spending like garden, repairs paid by me, whats left is for food and fun. quite simple really, although at the moment I do not have a partner, the same principle applies, once monthly bills and expenses accounted for then the rest is up for grabs food etc:- if i do not have a lot I eat less or go out less more likely. if you wish to make your wife do something she has never done, enjoy the battles but be prepared to lose them all.
I gave my wife after marriage about 20k a month and with that she had to manage, with bills and all that stuff, including paying for the kids clothes etc . But then I must admit farang food stuffs were only really obtainable at tops with a smattering at Big 'C'. Nowadays all things have increased in price and with the availability of more delicious and sometimes expensive farang food, bills will go up.
gas,electric,Diesel,petrol have all increased as has food. I find that cutting down on alcohol rather than food pays all sorts of dividends, but that's me.
If you moan about how much she spends then go shopping with her, pay all the bills , I sometimes do feel embarrassed when I see a farang counting out eh money for the wife at a checkout, she often looks embarrassed and even more so when he is quietly whinging about this and that.
basically i think if you have to watch the spending and you also check all the bills there is something wrong, sure i don't never have and probably never will, main bills are paid by me, luxuries are paid by me, planning for extra spending like garden, repairs paid by me, whats left is for food and fun. quite simple really, although at the moment I do not have a partner, the same principle applies, once monthly bills and expenses accounted for then the rest is up for grabs food etc:- if i do not have a lot I eat less or go out less more likely. if you wish to make your wife do something she has never done, enjoy the battles but be prepared to lose them all.
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kp "I sometimes do feel embarrassed when I see a farang counting out eh money for the wife at a checkout, she often looks embarrassed and even more so when he is quietly whinging about this and that."
Must be a British thing that only the wife can pay at the checkout.
Must be a British thing that only the wife can pay at the checkout.
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Dont get it!
I When we arrive check out ,we pack the goods, I see the total and pay!
Whats this "counting out the money" thing?
I When we arrive check out ,we pack the goods, I see the total and pay!
Whats this "counting out the money" thing?
Mai mee tahng !
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I know a few guys who have nearly split with their wives because the wife and her parents insisted that the wife should control all the money and the husband was to bring home his paycheck and turn it over to the wife. Maybe it's a Thai thing, but sheer common sense tells me that the mate with the keenest ability to be financially responsible should be the one paying the bills and maintaining the budget, be it husband or wife. It's beyond me to understand how a husband could yield to those demands and turn over his hard earned money to someone who has never dealt with money and household budgets, but it happens all the time. Some of the Westerners I've seen come to Udon look like they could use all the help they can get, but giving a monthly retirement check to some of these gals who look like they've just come down out of the mountains is unthinkable!parrot wrote:kp "I sometimes do feel embarrassed when I see a farang counting out eh money for the wife at a checkout, she often looks embarrassed and even more so when he is quietly whinging about this and that."
Must be a British thing that only the wife can pay at the checkout.
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We all look forward to 2015.New Year's Resolutions...what are yours?
Postby semperfiguy » January 2, 2014, 4:21 pm
I haven't heard anyone talk as yet about New Year's resolutions for the upcoming year. Perhaps if we could all chip in and make ours known, then it might encourage others to make a change that they hadn't heretofore considered.
I intend to:
1. Be less critical and cynical about my environment
2. Have zero tolerance for my own bad habit of Thai bashing
3. Lose weight and stay in better shape physically
4. Be a better husband and step-father
5. Do more travel within Thailand and the SE Asian Region
6. Loosen up on my budget and spend more on things that will make me and my family happy and more comfortable
7. Do more around the house to help lighten my wife's load
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Well, never said I was going to be "politically correct". I call it the way I see it and I gave a pretty realistic assessment...not to be confused with being critical, cynical or Thai bashing! Also never said I was perfect, but I'm trying my best to live up to my resolutions for 2014. Thank God I'm way ahead of where I was last January 3rd!jackspratt wrote:We all look forward to 2015.New Year's Resolutions...what are yours?
Postby semperfiguy » January 2, 2014, 4:21 pm
I haven't heard anyone talk as yet about New Year's resolutions for the upcoming year. Perhaps if we could all chip in and make ours known, then it might encourage others to make a change that they hadn't heretofore considered.
I intend to:
1. Be less critical and cynical about my environment
2. Have zero tolerance for my own bad habit of Thai bashing
3. Lose weight and stay in better shape physically
4. Be a better husband and step-father
5. Do more travel within Thailand and the SE Asian Region
6. Loosen up on my budget and spend more on things that will make me and my family happy and more comfortable
7. Do more around the house to help lighten my wife's load
Colossians 2:8-10...See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For in HIM dwells all the fullness of the GODHEAD bodily; and you are complete in HIM, who is the head of all principality and power.
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Married or single, if it's food only, just do the numbers per person set amount of baht per day. 200THB per day average per adult seems to cover it.
Like papaguido mentioned, Ngee Soon and Makro you can save some cash.
If you change to rice as the staple ingredient you can reap some benefit in savings and health.
My wife is a chef, so when we married I gained 20 kilos outright eating the best of farang fare day & night. Went from MMA fighting weight to fat heart attack guy weight class. Food bill increased 10K-15 THB per month so yeah, 25K sounds about right for covering the whole house back then.
Recently I switched back to rice-based dishes & cooking my own meals, buying the ingredents myself, day or two at a time. Budget back down & wife sees the actual cooking style I use to keep weight down & save money, so now handles everything again.
So if you are worried about it or just need to know the facts, go handle it yourself for a while. They're not going to complain. If anything it can serve as a reminder how just how much the good gals do for their man.
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Like papaguido mentioned, Ngee Soon and Makro you can save some cash.
If you change to rice as the staple ingredient you can reap some benefit in savings and health.
My wife is a chef, so when we married I gained 20 kilos outright eating the best of farang fare day & night. Went from MMA fighting weight to fat heart attack guy weight class. Food bill increased 10K-15 THB per month so yeah, 25K sounds about right for covering the whole house back then.
Recently I switched back to rice-based dishes & cooking my own meals, buying the ingredents myself, day or two at a time. Budget back down & wife sees the actual cooking style I use to keep weight down & save money, so now handles everything again.
So if you are worried about it or just need to know the facts, go handle it yourself for a while. They're not going to complain. If anything it can serve as a reminder how just how much the good gals do for their man.
RW
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OK guys I want looking as much at her as I was me. I had no idea how prices changed and that is what this is about.
We have been married for ten years, I did the drill about teaching budgets She handles the household budget. she handles the entire household budget which includes the car payment and the house payment. housekeeper, Ect. She gets a total of 65K a month to handle that on. The 25 K is what is left over. I pay for the bike payment, pay vehicle upkeep and all insurances. I'm the one who saves for emergencies. I pay for all our trips and she gets splurge money on those trips
I'm the one who fronts money for her brother to operate the farm. That may go away soon, since he is not doing the work needed properly, therefore 5K of mushrooms and no product. I gave him an opportunity. I had three years of operating it myself and shared my knowledge hands on many times. What he does with it is up to him. The one thing I have learned in life I can only control my actions.
So lets get passed the cheap charlie stuff that is not me.
I refuse to treat her like a child. I did the training on money control. I sit limits that is what this about. Am I making, it to tight for her to meet her goals. We live a very comfortable life and I still have money left over for her future. My future is now and I do fine.
The reason I don't want to pay the bills ect myself, is simple if I don't teach her now. There is no way that she will make it when I die, She will be broke in six months. So I do the things now to try to be bill free upon my death make sure she has a home to live in. I think I need to give up in trying to give her an additional income beyond the stipend. That gets spent now instead of when it will be needed. So bill free is the goal. If I don't get to nuts that cam be done in three years. That means I have to control what I do and still try to enjoy my retirement within reason.
I don't fancy myself to know everything. This budget was sit years ago. I know inflation has hit. How much that effects the household budget, was what I didn't know.
I've gotten some good input on here. No I won't take over paying the bills ( she has to learn) But, I got good shopping tips and I will tag along and learn.
If she needs more then so be it. No I'm not giving away the retirement that I worked hard for. With or without her I would be living the same way.
I got great suggestions on here and i want to thank everyone for that. I will put them to use. Then I will know if the money she gets is enough to live the way we want to. If not there is plenty left to add a bit. I will buy the luxury items myself. I hadn't taken that into account. I always give her, her last 5K on he third week of the month. I'm not going to change that
We have been married for ten years, I did the drill about teaching budgets She handles the household budget. she handles the entire household budget which includes the car payment and the house payment. housekeeper, Ect. She gets a total of 65K a month to handle that on. The 25 K is what is left over. I pay for the bike payment, pay vehicle upkeep and all insurances. I'm the one who saves for emergencies. I pay for all our trips and she gets splurge money on those trips
I'm the one who fronts money for her brother to operate the farm. That may go away soon, since he is not doing the work needed properly, therefore 5K of mushrooms and no product. I gave him an opportunity. I had three years of operating it myself and shared my knowledge hands on many times. What he does with it is up to him. The one thing I have learned in life I can only control my actions.
So lets get passed the cheap charlie stuff that is not me.
I refuse to treat her like a child. I did the training on money control. I sit limits that is what this about. Am I making, it to tight for her to meet her goals. We live a very comfortable life and I still have money left over for her future. My future is now and I do fine.
The reason I don't want to pay the bills ect myself, is simple if I don't teach her now. There is no way that she will make it when I die, She will be broke in six months. So I do the things now to try to be bill free upon my death make sure she has a home to live in. I think I need to give up in trying to give her an additional income beyond the stipend. That gets spent now instead of when it will be needed. So bill free is the goal. If I don't get to nuts that cam be done in three years. That means I have to control what I do and still try to enjoy my retirement within reason.
I don't fancy myself to know everything. This budget was sit years ago. I know inflation has hit. How much that effects the household budget, was what I didn't know.
I've gotten some good input on here. No I won't take over paying the bills ( she has to learn) But, I got good shopping tips and I will tag along and learn.
If she needs more then so be it. No I'm not giving away the retirement that I worked hard for. With or without her I would be living the same way.
I got great suggestions on here and i want to thank everyone for that. I will put them to use. Then I will know if the money she gets is enough to live the way we want to. If not there is plenty left to add a bit. I will buy the luxury items myself. I hadn't taken that into account. I always give her, her last 5K on he third week of the month. I'm not going to change that
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For me i set my house simliar to Bumber
Wife gets a monthly payment to pay all bills, mortgage,pickup,elec,water,internet,maid,food it leaves her with 25,000 for the food which she buys the sons milk and pampers
I pay my car, insurance, and houae hold
maintenance/repairs and trips etc
A guy at work said why do i do it this way setting her a monthly budget i said im giving her the control but within my expence budget so i can save above that for the future, he gives his thai wife full access of his bank account and guess what hes never got anything in it
Wife gets a monthly payment to pay all bills, mortgage,pickup,elec,water,internet,maid,food it leaves her with 25,000 for the food which she buys the sons milk and pampers
I pay my car, insurance, and houae hold
maintenance/repairs and trips etc
A guy at work said why do i do it this way setting her a monthly budget i said im giving her the control but within my expence budget so i can save above that for the future, he gives his thai wife full access of his bank account and guess what hes never got anything in it
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I don¨t do a budget but make a result spreadsheet for every month over the costs for everything. Our food is less than 5000B for two people. Including milk and the occasional orange juice but not my soft drinks. And not the dog food.
We eat both thai and western food.
Mostly at home as my wife is an excellent cook,We do the occasional excursion outside but not often.
We eat both thai and western food.
Mostly at home as my wife is an excellent cook,We do the occasional excursion outside but not often.
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Hi,
Not being pedantic, but this question is impossible to answer. Its like asking how many miles can you get out of a gallon of fuel, without saying how you drive, or what you drive etc. it varies with everyone.
If you are thinking of coming to live in LOS I would come here for 3 to 6 months to see how much you would need to live the lifestyle you WANT. before burning your bridges.
Me the wife and two kids get by on 10KB a week, and live very well. I have bought my home, car, and don't have to pay rent., the eldest kid is working in a good job and the youngest is still at school.
Anyway good luck to whatever you do.
Not being pedantic, but this question is impossible to answer. Its like asking how many miles can you get out of a gallon of fuel, without saying how you drive, or what you drive etc. it varies with everyone.
If you are thinking of coming to live in LOS I would come here for 3 to 6 months to see how much you would need to live the lifestyle you WANT. before burning your bridges.
Me the wife and two kids get by on 10KB a week, and live very well. I have bought my home, car, and don't have to pay rent., the eldest kid is working in a good job and the youngest is still at school.
Anyway good luck to whatever you do.
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Doug it'sl ike I said how much does a rai of land cost, whatever someone will pay for it.
Yours is a higher then mine by 15 K a month. But, I will have a better feel for it when I tag along. Ours is equal to food for three. Something I have to buy to stay within her budget that I have already seen. I'm trying to get somewhere between opening the vault and not penny pinching her into something that impossible with our lifestyle.
She once went through 215 K in six weeks and had nothing to show for it. So limits do have to be set. Mind you I have a budget I have to live on as well. The lesson learned from that no unsecure cash in the house. We now have a safe two people I trust have the combination and myself. That's not a complaint a lesson from WBU
Everyone makes mistakes the trick don't make them twice. I can't control anyone but myself, hence the safe.
You really can't get to upset with them although the 215K really did upset me, that one resulted in a 30 year lease on the house and contact between her and I as to who gets what if we split the sheets They have no idea what we had to to get the money and don't value it a much as we do.
So before flying off the handle best to do research and make sure you make things possible to achieve. That is the reason for the question looking for a ball park figure and ideas I have gotten both.
Yours is a higher then mine by 15 K a month. But, I will have a better feel for it when I tag along. Ours is equal to food for three. Something I have to buy to stay within her budget that I have already seen. I'm trying to get somewhere between opening the vault and not penny pinching her into something that impossible with our lifestyle.
She once went through 215 K in six weeks and had nothing to show for it. So limits do have to be set. Mind you I have a budget I have to live on as well. The lesson learned from that no unsecure cash in the house. We now have a safe two people I trust have the combination and myself. That's not a complaint a lesson from WBU
Everyone makes mistakes the trick don't make them twice. I can't control anyone but myself, hence the safe.
You really can't get to upset with them although the 215K really did upset me, that one resulted in a 30 year lease on the house and contact between her and I as to who gets what if we split the sheets They have no idea what we had to to get the money and don't value it a much as we do.
So before flying off the handle best to do research and make sure you make things possible to achieve. That is the reason for the question looking for a ball park figure and ideas I have gotten both.