Actually the laws are pretty clear here, just take the time to read them.
Best I can tell he has no assets in Thailand, so there is nothing for him to lose. Just stop the money. Donl bring any large of money, Thaksin stills owes an American tons of money, the judgement is not enforceable in Thailand.
You won't be stopped from coming back to Thailand, Thailand wants you to spend your money here.
Unless you watr to remarry, give it some time, then you have solid case for abandonment
If yo want legal advice get it from the sponsor Law Firm.
I've talked with them before they are good people and they charge Thai Prices.
I showed you what the Thai Law is. The U.K. I don't have a clue.
These are hard decisions to make because of the emotions involved
Good luck
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I reserve the right to be wrong, mispell words type badly. leave words out of sentences because my mind works faster then my fingers. To be an OLD GIT I've earned it
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just to clarify
my reply was a rough English law version, and Bumper's reply was a link of the Thai law version, so the Original Poster has the full monty now to choose from.
From reading both, it would appear the Thai divorce system in Thailand is more user friendly shall we say...and that the fruits of the loom, or whatever it said in that regards, remains with he who acquired it , both before and during said romantic coupling..
but I am no expert, never been bethrothed in my whole life, and I will be drawing a penison in a year or three...always the Groomsman but never the Groom..oyiiiiiiiiii..do I get an Oscar, or VC, or an Olypmic medal of some sort for that..perhaps a babies dummy on a string...hahaha
my reply was a rough English law version, and Bumper's reply was a link of the Thai law version, so the Original Poster has the full monty now to choose from.
From reading both, it would appear the Thai divorce system in Thailand is more user friendly shall we say...and that the fruits of the loom, or whatever it said in that regards, remains with he who acquired it , both before and during said romantic coupling..
but I am no expert, never been bethrothed in my whole life, and I will be drawing a penison in a year or three...always the Groomsman but never the Groom..oyiiiiiiiiii..do I get an Oscar, or VC, or an Olypmic medal of some sort for that..perhaps a babies dummy on a string...hahaha
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Thai law is very clear and it is followed. I don't remember anything saying a Thai husband even has to support the wife when they are married. Child custody rights lean towards the husband. It basically calls for fifty fifty split of assets. The op has no assets here.so there is nothing to split. A lot of Thai divorces break down to going to the Ampur filing a piece of paper saying you divorce each other. No lawyers no court, If it is mutually agreed upon. What is in Calf. referred to a non contested judgement.
If you filed the marriage at a UK Embassy, more then likely you will have to deal with that. But, that is what lawyers are for. Us U.S. citizens would only have to file a copy of the divorce judgement with the U.S. Embassy. There is an effect on our Social Security as to how much we are entitled to.
You know closure is important to all of us. But, you could be ahead of the game, just by stopping the money. Unless your in a hurry to get married again, what do you even need a divorce for?
From what you have described she will marry again divorce or no divorce. We play by the rules that doesn't always hold true for Thai's.
Living in the Middle East, for me with my limited experience there in Kuwait. The only reason to go there is to make money. Not a place I would choose to sit up camp. That being said where dos it say, we have endure hardship, so our wife's can play big shot in the village. Supposed to be a partnership. She left you. you didn't leave her.
You know doesn't cost much to send an email to law firm sponsor on this forum. Taking advice from me is akin to bar room gossip. Go to the source then make your own plan. You want to vent this certainly the place to do that and it's OK we all have to get things off our chest from time to time.
If you filed the marriage at a UK Embassy, more then likely you will have to deal with that. But, that is what lawyers are for. Us U.S. citizens would only have to file a copy of the divorce judgement with the U.S. Embassy. There is an effect on our Social Security as to how much we are entitled to.
You know closure is important to all of us. But, you could be ahead of the game, just by stopping the money. Unless your in a hurry to get married again, what do you even need a divorce for?
From what you have described she will marry again divorce or no divorce. We play by the rules that doesn't always hold true for Thai's.
Living in the Middle East, for me with my limited experience there in Kuwait. The only reason to go there is to make money. Not a place I would choose to sit up camp. That being said where dos it say, we have endure hardship, so our wife's can play big shot in the village. Supposed to be a partnership. She left you. you didn't leave her.
You know doesn't cost much to send an email to law firm sponsor on this forum. Taking advice from me is akin to bar room gossip. Go to the source then make your own plan. You want to vent this certainly the place to do that and it's OK we all have to get things off our chest from time to time.
I reserve the right to be wrong, mispell words type badly. leave words out of sentences because my mind works faster then my fingers. To be an OLD GIT I've earned it
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Thanks for all your input.
I should clarify that I have never lived in Thailand, and have no assets there.
I did not gain any assets while married to my wife, i.e. in the past 2 years or so.
She has never had a UK visa, and now has no Gulf visa.
Now she has a foreign name in her own country, so will that not make things more difficult for her in Thailand?
Also, could she be able to marry again without a divorce?
We got married at the Amphur in Bangkok, and I had to get a "certificate of freedom to marry" from the British Embassy first; apart from that I did not do any registration with UK authorities as such.
I should clarify that I have never lived in Thailand, and have no assets there.
I did not gain any assets while married to my wife, i.e. in the past 2 years or so.
She has never had a UK visa, and now has no Gulf visa.
Now she has a foreign name in her own country, so will that not make things more difficult for her in Thailand?
Also, could she be able to marry again without a divorce?
We got married at the Amphur in Bangkok, and I had to get a "certificate of freedom to marry" from the British Embassy first; apart from that I did not do any registration with UK authorities as such.
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davecryan
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Foreign name...she can just revert back to her family name with a trip to the Amphur.
Likewise she can marry again without a Divorce via the village unregistered Buddhist wedding system.
As many have said, just walk away particularily if you have not registered it with the UK.
Likewise she can marry again without a Divorce via the village unregistered Buddhist wedding system.
As many have said, just walk away particularily if you have not registered it with the UK.
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My best advice, stop the money now. All the rest, up to you.
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Having gone the divorce route in Thailand I may be able to help.
I am a UK citizen and my ex wife is Thai
My lawyer recommended a one year separation
When this time elapsed we went to court - my wife didn't turn up but the hearing went ahead anyway. The lawyer concentrated on the Thai boyfriend as reason for the marriage failure.
30 days later the judgement was given and I went to the local Amphur for the divorce certificate.
Quite painless really. Good luck =D>
I am a UK citizen and my ex wife is Thai
My lawyer recommended a one year separation
When this time elapsed we went to court - my wife didn't turn up but the hearing went ahead anyway. The lawyer concentrated on the Thai boyfriend as reason for the marriage failure.
30 days later the judgement was given and I went to the local Amphur for the divorce certificate.
Quite painless really. Good luck =D>
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Yeah as everyone has said..........
STOP The Money,Let Her Boyfriend pay for her Somtam,A Cheap enough Boom Boom for Him....And STOP Worrying yourself Silly,In Other Words FOOK HER !!!
STOP The Money,Let Her Boyfriend pay for her Somtam,A Cheap enough Boom Boom for Him....And STOP Worrying yourself Silly,In Other Words FOOK HER !!!
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Just keep sending her as much money as you can to keep her boy friend happy and not forgetting the scrounging family and the buffalo, and my sister she hospital you can help she, and darling my auntie she need money for looking after my children my boy friend he cannot because he mou every day but make sure you keep your bus fare home 
You'll Never Walk Alone L.F.C.
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i think the 'gulf' presents unique circumstances in that most westerners are entitled to married mans privileges & without the marriage youre pretty much stuck on a bachelors compound.
its quite difficult to find a steady western gf in the gulf particularly at the op age & even moreso if hes in saudi.
the wife may have suspected that perhaps she was merely a convenience but certainly im not suggesting that. ive known other westerners that merely marry for convenience of having a wife in the gulf & quite often when the marriage breaks down its because the husband wasnt really genuinely in love & women can suss that out.
without both sides telling their story, its a lop sided tale.
its quite difficult to find a steady western gf in the gulf particularly at the op age & even moreso if hes in saudi.
the wife may have suspected that perhaps she was merely a convenience but certainly im not suggesting that. ive known other westerners that merely marry for convenience of having a wife in the gulf & quite often when the marriage breaks down its because the husband wasnt really genuinely in love & women can suss that out.
without both sides telling their story, its a lop sided tale.
temptation is a .....
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Do0n't r4eally see much from the OP. two posts.
Seems to me he has went through the worst of it the emotional pain. Desertion is specific reason fro a divorce here
Nothing here to lose. She is entitled to half the assets just as you are. That being said a judgment here is not enforceable in other countries. So don't bring any money here. You owe her or the family nothing.
If you filed with the British Embassy, I would ignore that, until I had my legal work done here. File it when it's finished with the embassy there after.
It's very simple legal matter here. If both parties agree you don't even have to go to court. Just sign documents at the Amphur
She seems to be on the money train so I doubt she will go for that. But. it's still simple with no property or other assets involved. Many of these girls believe rumors and think they are in lot stronger positions then they really are.
If you want the name and phone number of a local attorney who is honest I will give it to you.
Seems to me he has went through the worst of it the emotional pain. Desertion is specific reason fro a divorce here
Nothing here to lose. She is entitled to half the assets just as you are. That being said a judgment here is not enforceable in other countries. So don't bring any money here. You owe her or the family nothing.
If you filed with the British Embassy, I would ignore that, until I had my legal work done here. File it when it's finished with the embassy there after.
It's very simple legal matter here. If both parties agree you don't even have to go to court. Just sign documents at the Amphur
She seems to be on the money train so I doubt she will go for that. But. it's still simple with no property or other assets involved. Many of these girls believe rumors and think they are in lot stronger positions then they really are.
If you want the name and phone number of a local attorney who is honest I will give it to you.
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If you have not registered the marriage with your embassy,don't plan on coming to stay in Thailand,no assets here,I would forget about her and any support.
If your are planning a divorce,I would contact a lawyer .It might help to keep the pending divorce quiet if the lawyer thinks a Private investigator might help.
If your are planning a divorce,I would contact a lawyer .It might help to keep the pending divorce quiet if the lawyer thinks a Private investigator might help.
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Brian Davis
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This is going to sound very mean of me, but the craziness had to end.
One of the first things a farang friend of my girl told me "she's not very bright". I should have heeded his advice but rushed into marriage, spent a fair bit etc.
Years later, I rather used the stupidity against her, as I really wanted to 'clear the decks'. She had no money/idea of solicitors, going to court etc. and I certainly didn't want all that hassle. I had no assets here, except a car in my name. The Thai-style house I built was really the family house and I had no qualms in losing that. I simply used the temptation of a small sum of money to met me at the Amphoe to divorce. As Bumper says, it's very straightforward, just need your paperwork and witnesses on each side. She grabbed the money, I kept the car, she probably went off to play Hi Lo, or invest in a daft idea, but I was free.
Sounds awful, as she did have children(not mine) but enough was enough.
In your case, if you wish to get the paperwork sorted etc., may be worth trying the 'temptation'. An easy route out.
Day after divorce, 'ex' phoned to ask for more money. I said she was daft!. Whoopps, too late. It was at that point I changed my 'phone number.
One of the first things a farang friend of my girl told me "she's not very bright". I should have heeded his advice but rushed into marriage, spent a fair bit etc.
Years later, I rather used the stupidity against her, as I really wanted to 'clear the decks'. She had no money/idea of solicitors, going to court etc. and I certainly didn't want all that hassle. I had no assets here, except a car in my name. The Thai-style house I built was really the family house and I had no qualms in losing that. I simply used the temptation of a small sum of money to met me at the Amphoe to divorce. As Bumper says, it's very straightforward, just need your paperwork and witnesses on each side. She grabbed the money, I kept the car, she probably went off to play Hi Lo, or invest in a daft idea, but I was free.
Sounds awful, as she did have children(not mine) but enough was enough.
In your case, if you wish to get the paperwork sorted etc., may be worth trying the 'temptation'. An easy route out.
Day after divorce, 'ex' phoned to ask for more money. I said she was daft!. Whoopps, too late. It was at that point I changed my 'phone number.
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actually it is nice to see people win sometimes. Did pretty much the same thing with a Flippina divorce. We had Children and I paid through the nose on Child support. I really had no problem with that. She was greedy could only see money. I gave her S 20,000 cash. Paid a f off all the family bills about $30,000 Peope4l actually thought I was crazy.
But she could have had 1/2 of my Police Retirement for life. So that was a small price to compared to lifetime income.
She actually believed she could control my after the divorce, she was wrong. Sometimes in the end money grabbers really get what they deserve.
But she could have had 1/2 of my Police Retirement for life. So that was a small price to compared to lifetime income.
She actually believed she could control my after the divorce, she was wrong. Sometimes in the end money grabbers really get what they deserve.
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Thanks for all your advice.
Since my last post the following has happened:
I have had limited communication with my wife, only through SMS chat systems, i.e. in writing, no voice.
She continues to live her her home town (near Udon Thani), and states she is seeking a job.
In June, she reverted to her name on Facebook, meaning her public face.
I infer from this that she has changed her name on her ID card...?
In July, I spent 3 weeks in Thailand (but not in Udon), and had the same limited contact with her.
During our chats, she admitted in writing that she has a new lover.
Meanwhile I have sent her no money since April (she left me in March).
I asked her how she (and her mother and aunt that i was supporting) are surviving; she refused to answer.
I said "You are getting money from your new boyfriend, right?" Again she would not answer the question.
Just to recap: I have no assets in Thailand, and the marriage was not registered with the British Embassy (I only obtained a "Certificate of Freedom to Marry" from them before the marriage). I also gained no assets (apart from my salary, of which I spent a significant part on her) during our marriage.
One other important fact: her new boyfriend is a "falang" with a condo in Pattay, I believe. This means, among other things, that in adversarial terms, she is advised by an interested party who is considerably more worldly than she is.
Since my last post the following has happened:
I have had limited communication with my wife, only through SMS chat systems, i.e. in writing, no voice.
She continues to live her her home town (near Udon Thani), and states she is seeking a job.
In June, she reverted to her name on Facebook, meaning her public face.
I infer from this that she has changed her name on her ID card...?
In July, I spent 3 weeks in Thailand (but not in Udon), and had the same limited contact with her.
During our chats, she admitted in writing that she has a new lover.
Meanwhile I have sent her no money since April (she left me in March).
I asked her how she (and her mother and aunt that i was supporting) are surviving; she refused to answer.
I said "You are getting money from your new boyfriend, right?" Again she would not answer the question.
Just to recap: I have no assets in Thailand, and the marriage was not registered with the British Embassy (I only obtained a "Certificate of Freedom to Marry" from them before the marriage). I also gained no assets (apart from my salary, of which I spent a significant part on her) during our marriage.
One other important fact: her new boyfriend is a "falang" with a condo in Pattay, I believe. This means, among other things, that in adversarial terms, she is advised by an interested party who is considerably more worldly than she is.
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karonsteve
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You don't need a divorce, she doesn't need a divorce so why are you prolonging the break up?
Get over the fact you have been conned/lied to/fooled/cheated or whatever.
Change your phone number and walk away.
Get over the fact you have been conned/lied to/fooled/cheated or whatever.
Change your phone number and walk away.
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Wait a short period then with a Thai friend ( translator 0 attend the amphur and file for divorce on seperation either 3/7 years not sure which one.
Cheap almost free make sure you take your original certificate.
legally she cannot remarrty in Thailand until she is divorced from you but we all know that is not quite true.
Cheap almost free make sure you take your original certificate.
legally she cannot remarrty in Thailand until she is divorced from you but we all know that is not quite true.
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I agree with the thought that you don't need a divorce. Just cut her off financially and wait for her to ask for a divorce. She will eventually want to remarry. The actual divorce in Thailand is very cheap provided you both agree on terms, if there are any terms. Since you are not hurting for money, you could sweeten the deal for her with a little cash payment incentive. Don't offer the cash, let her ask for it. She WILL ask for it.