Affordable homes

[qon]

What is "affordable homes"? my definition for this class of housing hinge on price, without compromising the basic comforts of home. One alternative is mobile homes, that is; attached unit on a trailer or converted van or buses with home amenities. The trailer solution is plausible, but an actual converted van would only suit a few people as a short term housing solution.

The trailer option, is determined by access and roads width. It is only practical as relocatable rather than being truly mobile homes. A workable width is about 3-3.5m, it can further be expand from a single unit solution, liveable container size of 3.5x6m prebuilt unit into modules, which can be reassembled to form bigger rooms eg. 2 modules 3x6m = 6x6m home, or rearrange them with a gap or overlaps creating another 3x6m space in between modules to make a 9x6m home, thereby reducing price per m2 for the same cost of 2 modules++. When time comes to move on, it will be a matter of roof off, decouple the walls and modules, hook them up or load them on trailers for relocation. This residue or recyclable/resale value should be considered when compare price with brick and mortar homes.

Other ideal application: resort, farm, in-law, teenagers, granny flats, holiday house.

At what price is affordable? for a house of 50m2 for $20,000.00 (B600,000.00) is about the price of a secondhand car, it would meet my definition of an affordable home. Considering a 50% residue recyclable value of $10,000.00, it is more 'affordable' costing only $10,000.00 as a medium long term housing solution. A floor would cost about $500-1000 depending on sites, this also can be done as dismantle-able, further increase the resale value. Depreciate the value over 5 years, the house is free. Land is a bigger matter if you don't fuss land that is off the beat, it is quite affordable, even free from the in laws

Security? it is an issue! but it is no more and no less than a brick mortar house, the external walls can be clad with 20mm cement (false timber planks) boards, 5mm smartboard or metal composite panels. The weak points of a home as far as breakings are concerned: roof, windows, cheap locks; rather than smashing through cement boards even though it is not as strong as brick and concrete.

Google for "modular transportable home light metal thailand" , similarly on Facebook search for "kit modular transportable homes".

[fatbob]

Shipping containers also can make very affordable and interesting homes if the imagination is used.

[Barney]

Used Railway cars are another option, Thailand should have plenty, they derail enough. (funny haven't seen posts about the trains falling of the tracks lately)
Rail cars are very solid and already have the windows and doors. Being high off the ground plumbing is not an issue.

[qon]

Hi
Definitely! shipping containers are good as secured room, but as a house there are many cons:
1- Weigh 2 tons, sometimes crane alone would cost B10,000-20,000.00 per job.
2- Hard to work with, cutting the panels are beyond normal handyman and quite dangerous
3- Structurally unknown, they are rust prone due to sea life travel so long term is unknown. Crane lifting is at owner's risk as it might crumbles.

Some years ago I priced them, they vary between $6000-8000 delivered.

Shipping containers also can make very affordable and interesting homes if the imagination is used.

[fatbob]

Google up 'shipping container homes' you will get a surprise with what is possible.
Cranes are cheap here, 7,000 baht half day, 14,000 full day, steel is easy to work with, gas axes, grinders and welders, paint them properly and they dont rust, they have a floor and finally they don't crumble, they get stacked ten high on ships and get smashed by storms, then loaded onto trucks and bounced on rough roads, in Aus they are about $5,000 for a good one, I have one on my land for a shed.

[Barney]

Ok I'm convinced.
I want a sea container, who knows a supplier in UT for 2nd hand 40 foot or 20 foot containers. As long as the 2 doors open and shut successfully.

[fatbob]

by Barney » August 22, 2014, 4:50 pm

Ok I'm convinced.
I want a sea container, who knows a supplier in UT for 2nd hand 40 foot or 20 foot containers. As long as the 2 doors open and shut successfully.

Buy them in Bangkok and freight them to Udon, its to easy. Did you bother having a look on google? We did great things with containers for offices when working in Abu Dhabi and India, used them as labour camps in Singapore three high, its up to your imagination and flair.

[Barney]

Thanks coxo,
The thread has just pricked my numb mind about getting one for my land to dry store stuff while I build over the next year or so. When I was in aussie land years ago for construction you could buy the A, B or C grade depending on water tightness requirements. We use them all the time at work and fit them out as our site offices, stores, Instrument calibration huts. We have 7 now fitted out here in Bangladesh, Split unit A/C's , power/lights, wireless internet, lined with insulation and good wall paneling. Cut a door each end on the side and bob's your close relation!
As you say if it is affordable housing you want easy to do. Endless things you can fit out for.

[qon]

Yes we bought some from a BKK dealer who would deliver them to site. We used them for lockup storage. But as for housing I find the width of 2.4m too restrictive and not as flexible. If you see one of Heston cooking show, he used one as an oversize oven for a huge English pudding cooking; so by the time you insulate the walls, it will down to 2.2m width, which is ok for a single bed. The newly built modular homes cost less than used containers (of same specs), usually with steel square tube or light weigh metal frame. Thailand is actually an exporter of modular units to AU mining industry. As for rust, 1 out of 3 units we have, we were shocked by the amount of rust covered by paint we found, so it rests in the yard until it will go to dust. So be wary and thoroughly check for rust, but it is an art almost like buying used car.

[Barney]

Yes we bought some from a BKK dealer who would deliver them to site. We used them for lockup storage. But as for housing I find the width of 2.4m too restrictive and not as flexible. If you see one of Heston cooking show, he used one as an oversize oven for a huge English pudding cooking; so by the time you insulate the walls, it will down to 2.2m width, which is ok for a single bed. The newly built modular homes cost less than used containers (of same specs), usually with steel square tube or light weigh metal frame. Thailand is actually an exporter of modular units to AU mining industry. As for rust, 1 out of 3 units we have, we were shocked by the amount of rust covered by paint we found, so it rests in the yard until it will go to dust. So be wary and thoroughly check for rust, but it is an art almost like buying used car.

qon

From your post are you saying you have one spare that you can't use. If in reasonable nic might take it off your hands if you are in UT? just want building material storage for a year or so?

[qon]

Hi
We still use it on site, but no longer as a mobile workshop. It is not worth selling because we need to replace it

qon

qon

From your post are you saying you have one spare that you can't use. If in reasonable nic might take it off your hands if you are in UT? just want building material storage for a year or so?

[qon]

For your info Thailand C&T modular is 2nd largest company in the world supplying modular units, on the back of winning large scale contracts with AU mining: http://www.cntmodularthailand.com/index ... 1&Itemid=3
1st is China CMIC, they have subsidiaries everywhere in the world. Unit flexibility, quality and price exceeds those built from shipping containers.

These companies are large scale manufacturing of complete units, the units are available and can be replicated in kit form by smaller companies using the same technology of light weigh metal frame; available at UD. Cost and options can be tailored to suit individual needs.

What is "affordable homes"? my definition for this class of housing hinge on price, without compromising the basic comforts of home. One alternative is mobile homes, that is; attached unit on a trailer or converted van or buses with home amenities. The trailer solution is plausible, but an actual converted van would only suit a few people as a short term housing solution.
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Google for "modular transportable home light metal thailand" , similarly on Facebook search for "kit modular transportable homes".

[FrazeeDK]

can't say for now, but it used to be that you could pick up decent 20 foot containers fairly cheaply in Nong Khai from some transport companies for around $500.. Lots of stuff going to Laos and not much coming out.. Freight was broken down in NK then trucked to Laos leaving the containers in NK..

[dingdong]

FrazeeDK
Do you have a location, number, name , phone etc????

[qon]

At $500, even $1000.00 lets snap them up contact please

can't say for now, but it used to be that you could pick up decent 20 foot containers fairly cheaply in Nong Khai from some transport companies for around $500.. Lots of stuff going to Laos and not much coming out.. Freight was broken down in NK then trucked to Laos leaving the containers in NK..

[thaiguzzi]

Probably out of your price range, and what you are looking to pay, but i would be willing to sell my two 20' insulated containers for 200k. These are ex New Zealand Lamb insulated containers, top of the range, shot blasted and repainted in 2003, shipped here in 2005, and a shipping certificate expired 2007. when i purchased these in the UK, 20' containers with a 2 year shipping certificate started at £500 each plus VAT. Mine were £1500 each plus VAT. I then had the wooden floors put in on top of the grilled floor, workbenches fitted, and professionally wired throughout with plug sockets and light switches. each container has it's own UK type safety - cut leading to a plug. Plug and play. The price includes the roof over the pair which extends to an outside work area. This would obviously need dismantling, removing and re- erecting at the new site by the new owner. They are warm in cold weather and cool inside in hot weather.

[thaiguzzi]

Located 7 kms outside of Ban Dung, buyer would pay all logistics costs.

[qon]

Try this one, published price B49,000.00 20' + freight + crane
http://www.asiatradingonline.com/shippingfcl.htm

FrazeeDK
Do you have a location, number, name , phone etc????

[dingdong]

Thank you

[qon]

170m2 home from old home demolition to moving in, in 3 weeks; using custom made modular home. 300Tons crane is scary, but it is a house made of 'black' steel not light weigh metal frame which a 6x3 would weigh about 1 ton. Just image all the possibilities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvRkdhq ... r_embedded