A320 Crash Today...In French Alps......

Post by **747man** » March 26, 2015, 8:06 pm

Post by **Zidane** » March 26, 2015, 8:38 pm

Heres a picture of the co-pilot,28 year old Andreas Lubitz.......nothing in his past to link him to be a terrorist.

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Post by **Drunk Monkey** » March 26, 2015, 11:43 pm

747man wrote:
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FIND THIS VERY STRANGE ........ not a suicide ...but this guy flew the plane into the side of a mountain deliberately at over 400 mph ... i would say that is suicide as well as murdering 149 totally innocent people ...

Been a terrible year for air travel incidents but this one is really unbelievable if the most recent findings are found to be true .

RIP to the 149 ..as for Mr Lubitz i cant actually think of anything strong enough to say .

Post by **can123** » March 26, 2015, 11:48 pm

..as for Mr Lubitz i cant actually think of anything strong enough to say .

You can say whatever you like as he will not hear you.

Post by **bignote1** » March 27, 2015, 12:42 am

Drunk Monkey wrote:Been a terrible year for air travel incidents but this one is really unbelievable if the most recent findings are found to be true .

2014 was the safest year in the history of aviation despite the 2 high profile Malaysian Airlines disaster.

http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2015/mar/a ... y-2014.cfm

Post by **GT93** » March 27, 2015, 12:47 am

What's the solution? Perhaps some system where auto-pilot takes over and the pilots can't have the controls.

It will be interesting to read more about the perp. There are some weird people out there. I wonder what kind of psych profile someone who might do this has.

Post by **bignote1** » March 27, 2015, 12:59 am

It's a real difficult problem isn't it.
You can test before the flight( as they do ) if a pilot has excess alcohol or drugs in his blood but there is no test to measure a persons state of mind. Today Easyjet have said starting tomorrow there will always be two people in the cockpit of their planes. If the Pilot or co-Pilot need a leak the Purser will be required to be present in the cockpit (not pressing buttons hopefully) until the person returns.

Post by **bignote1** » March 27, 2015, 1:10 am

I should have added.........If that doesn't work it might have to be colostomy bags.

Post by **pomps** » March 27, 2015, 2:26 am

Now I understand better re the entry pad,anybody in the cockpit can continually deny an override request of entry if believing the code has been compromised.If single pilot is incapacitated then can gain access.Think all airlines will change now or just put an empty large plastic bottle in the cockpit for peeing,no need to leave.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-32070528

Post by **Zidane** » March 27, 2015, 9:03 am

With many airlines if one of the pilot nips out then the Purser aka Chief Flight Attendant is supposed to join the remaining pilot in the cockpit.
But even this is not a true solution as many of the Chief Flight Attendants are female.How would a 50kg girl have been able to overcome this 28 year old "complete nut job" guy ?

Post by **mortiboy** » March 27, 2015, 10:37 am

Still dont think suicide.
Somebody could barge in as the pilot exits the cockpit.
Slam the door, flick the switch to disable.
But will we ever know? Guess the passengers history be investigated.
See if there's a nutter extremist.
But nobody has owned up to causing a terrorist plot!

Post by **Macca** » March 27, 2015, 10:47 am

mortiboy wrote:Still dont think suicide.
Somebody could barge in as the pilot exits the cockpit.
Slam the door, flick the switch to disable.
!

If something like that had happened then it would have been picked up on the voice recorder.
They are saying this morning the co pilots breathing, heard on the recorder, appeared to be calm and normal
Maybe he had become unconscious, however the decent was described as controlled and deliberate.

Meanwhile background noises could be heard of someone trying to break the door down

Post by **GT93** » March 27, 2015, 2:05 pm

Calm and normal? What kind of person is that? In my layman's opinion that isn't a normal depressed person. There's something extra here.

For fxcks sake, most of us have probably considered topping ourselves at some stage. That seems to be part of being human. It would be really weird wanting let alone deciding to take 150 odd others with us. Particularly children. It's really obscene. The perp belongs in infamy.

It was also probably a crime of opportunity. If it wasn't this flight, it might have been the next when the next pilot needed to have a piss. I suspect the mass and child murderer had been planning this for some time.

Post by **maaka** » March 27, 2015, 2:30 pm

in this day and age they should put video cams in the cockpit that link to the black box, instead of pissing around with trying reach answers with voice recording, and flight data...hell they could even have live feed bounced off Sats..

Post by **747man** » March 27, 2015, 7:06 pm

bignote1 wrote:I should have added.........If that doesn't work it might have to be colostomy bags.

Or a WIDE Necked Bottle ???

Post by **bignote1** » March 27, 2015, 7:18 pm

747man wrote:
bignote1 wrote:I should have added.........If that doesn't work it might have to be colostomy bags.
Or a WIDE Necked Bottle ???

Maybe they could design flight decks to be en suite; open plan of course........ however this may present problems with a mixed gender flight crew or come to think of it even some same gender flight crews.

Post by **Aardvark** » March 28, 2015, 6:24 am

Maybe in the case of Pilots a Doctor should report directly to the Employer .... http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/airbus- ... 7282147886

Post by **747man** » March 28, 2015, 11:44 am

Was Andreas Lubitz A Muslim Convert ???

Mar
27
2015
Was Andreas Lubitz a Muslim Convert?

When senseless evil shatters the lives of the innocent, you usually don’t have to look far to find Islam, so it should come as no surprise that Andreas Lubitz — who deliberately crashed Germanwings Flight 4U9525, killing 150 people — is claimed to be a recent convert to the Religion of Peace:

According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

Post by **jackspratt** » March 28, 2015, 12:04 pm

You be the judge:

Politically Incorrect (commonly abbreviated PI) is a mainly German-language political blog which focuses on topics related to immigration, multiculturalism and Islam in Germany and Western societies. A condensed version of the weblog is available in English. The blog's self-declared goal is to bring news to a wider public attention which it perceives to be ignored or suppressed in the mainstream media due to a pervading "leftist political correctness." It describes itself as pro-American, pro-Israel, in support of fundamental rights and human rights and opposed to the "Islamisation of Europe".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicall ... %28blog%29

This is a link to the English version of the website:

http://www.pi-news.org/

Post by **GT93** » March 28, 2015, 12:05 pm

Really 747man? Or should this have been posted on Wednesday? No doubt this possibility will be thoroughly investigated.