Australians Rise Up?

[ronan01]

Carson is a donkey
That is crap about if the people were armed the holocaust wouldn't of happened
The army rolls into town would the locals fight them
I doubt it not when their own armies didn't defend them

so true noose, if the germans were armed quite the opposite, the extermination of the jews would have taken just a couple of weeks instead of years, Rwanda , 800,000 people murdered in less than 100 days, by a tyrannical government, but it was not even the government killing, it was the people. already calls for banning muslims from entering america , for a muslim database. this is how tyranny works . you demonize a minority, you make specific laws about them, then you demonize any of their supporters. you put fear into people. tyranny can only work when it is supported by the people. one man can't do it alone. hitler didn't get to power without the help of the people. that shows how easy it is to brainwash a nation. if it all goes south with islam how long do you think the 1% of the American muslim population would last when the 78% Christian population turned on them with their guns ?
the term self radicalized ? what exactly does that mean ? I thought they get radicalized by watching tv, reading papers, listening to politicians

Maybe they get radicalised at friday sermons at the mosque

[papafarang]

"Maybe they get radicalised at friday sermons at the mosque"
could be true, or could be false ? who knows. trouble with that one is if it was a mosque anyone that attended the place is now a suspect, but that's a slippery slope, maybe they attended to radicalize other muslims ?.
today it was reported that the pair went to target practice for days before the attacks, but that don't mean gun ranges are terrorist training camps, or are they ? the gun ranges did assist these terrorists with training

[ronan01]

"Maybe they get radicalised at friday sermons at the mosque"
could be true, or could be false ? who knows. trouble with that one is if it was a mosque anyone that attended the place is now a suspect, but that's a slippery slope, maybe they attended to radicalize other muslims ?.
today it was reported that the pair went to target practice for days before the attacks, but that don't mean gun ranges are terrorist training camps, or are they ? the gun ranges did assist these terrorists with training

"The common denominator in both calls to control guns and to fight an imaginary anti-Muslim backlash is a deep distrust of the American people. Instead of focusing on the small number of terrorists, the mass of Americans are viewed as the problem, and must be restrained. Gun controls express a fear of ordinary folk having guns; Islamophobia theory says the real problem is the bigoted masses. And, in both cases, Obama and others pushing these claims believe that it is quite all right to restrict ordinary Americans’ rights – whether to own guns or to express their opinions."

http://www.spiked-online.com/

[papafarang]

"Maybe they get radicalised at friday sermons at the mosque"
could be true, or could be false ? who knows. trouble with that one is if it was a mosque anyone that attended the place is now a suspect, but that's a slippery slope, maybe they attended to radicalize other muslims ?.
today it was reported that the pair went to target practice for days before the attacks, but that don't mean gun ranges are terrorist training camps, or are they ? the gun ranges did assist these terrorists with training

"The common denominator in both calls to control guns and to fight an imaginary anti-Muslim backlash is a deep distrust of the American people. Instead of focusing on the small number of terrorists, the mass of Americans are viewed as the problem, and must be restrained. Gun controls express a fear of ordinary folk having guns; Islamophobia theory says the real problem is the bigoted masses. And, in both cases, Obama and others pushing these claims believe that it is quite all right to restrict ordinary Americans’ rights – whether to own guns or to express their opinions."

quite ironic really, all muslims in America need to by guns to protect themselves from the fear of tyranny of the masses. very sad situation. last time every black man was a member of the black panthers, before that it was commies

[ronan01]

"Maybe they get radicalised at friday sermons at the mosque"
could be true, or could be false ? who knows. trouble with that one is if it was a mosque anyone that attended the place is now a suspect, but that's a slippery slope, maybe they attended to radicalize other muslims ?.
today it was reported that the pair went to target practice for days before the attacks, but that don't mean gun ranges are terrorist training camps, or are they ? the gun ranges did assist these terrorists with training

"The common denominator in both calls to control guns and to fight an imaginary anti-Muslim backlash is a deep distrust of the American people. Instead of focusing on the small number of terrorists, the mass of Americans are viewed as the problem, and must be restrained. Gun controls express a fear of ordinary folk having guns; Islamophobia theory says the real problem is the bigoted masses. And, in both cases, Obama and others pushing these claims believe that it is quite all right to restrict ordinary Americans’ rights – whether to own guns or to express their opinions."


quite ironic really, all muslims in America need to by guns to protect themselves from the fear of tyranny of the masses. very sad situation. last time every black man was a member of the black panthers, before that it was commies

Except there is no backlash against muslims in the US. Where and when have the non-muslim masses in the US tyrnannised muslims - details please

[papafarang]

I said "from the fear of tyranny of the masses" , nothing about it being real, fear is an emotion not a reality. the way americans cling to their guns because of fear of tyranny of their own goverment

[redwolf]

I said "from the fear of tyranny of the masses" , nothing about it being real, fear is an emotion not a reality. the way americans cling to their guns because of fear of tyranny of their own goverment

you meant to say:

the way some Americans cling to their guns because of fear of tyranny of their own government.

too bad the sensible members of every society worldwide are cobbled in with the idiots.

a tragedy it is, the price paid by the honourable for the debts of the insane.

and with that, -time to go listen to david bowie music backwards LOL

RW

[papafarang]

yes sorry some americans, my apologies

[GT93]

I think if you wanted to whack say 50 to 100 people in Australia or NZ and planned it carefully it would be pretty easy. It's more than just gun control laws as to why we aren't so big on spree killing. It's also cultural and psychological?

[papafarang]

"Except there is no backlash against muslims in the US. Where and when have the non-muslim masses in the US tyrnannised muslims - details please"
well that was the kiss of death, news report on the BBC about how their living in fear, even had armed protest outside a mosque in texas, did you plan that ? strange how truth can follow fiction, as I said tyranny gets it's power from the people, Mr trump knows this, good for votes

[ronan01]

"Except there is no backlash against muslims in the US. Where and when have the non-muslim masses in the US tyrnannised muslims - details please"
well that was the kiss of death, news report on the BBC about how their living in fear, even had armed protest outside a mosque in texas, did you plan that ? strange how truth can follow fiction, as I said tyranny gets it's power from the people, Mr trump knows this, good for votes

No did not know that - provide a reference please.

Did i plan what? Be sensible for a change.

Explain tyranny gets its power from the people.

Does that mean "power to the people" = tyranny?. Who should have power then?

[papafarang]

I did say BBC news.

[noosard]

The lawyer representing Dr Rifi and the council told the court the Supreme Court's order to prohibit Folkes' rally did not go far enough.

He wants the websites and Facebook pages used to promote the event to now be used to spread the message that the rally is cancelled.

Dr Rifi says the court should find any proposed gatherings marking the anniversary in breach of the Racial Discrimination Act.

"Their freedom of speech should not impinge on our rights as citizens," he said.

"They have every right to express their view but their right is not absolute.

"We also have a right as a citizen of this country not to be insulted, not to be humiliated and not to be intimidated."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-11/c ... al/7020282

[noosard]

Pig on the spit at Cronulla beach on a Sunday avo

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act ... 8b1761b7ba

[papafarang]

Pig on the spit at Cronulla beach on a Sunday avo

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act ... 8b1761b7ba

pig on a spit.. someone's going to get offended