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Post by BigRick808 » February 23, 2016, 10:31 am

Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed (Keep your bulletproof vest on Donald!)

http://patriotrising.com/2016/02/22/tru ... on-donald/


I'm almost certain Ted Cruz not only said he supported an audit, but he also co-sponsored the bill with Rand Paul.

What kind of man co-sponsors a bill and then chooses not to show up for the vote?



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Post by BigRick808 » February 23, 2016, 10:36 am

There are many things I don't agree with Trump on but I'm liking him more and more as time goes on.

When I put him next to the rest, he doesn't look too bad. The others are obvious tools, no doubt.

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Post by rjj04 » February 23, 2016, 12:44 pm

Even if Bernie Sanders can gain the majority of Democratic caucus voters, he would still lose due to the "super delegate" (non-democratic, bought-out bunch) establishment supporting another Clinton. I found this article
interesting...

"An analysis of Federal Election Commission records, by TIME, which was published on 23 October 2015, showed that the 2012 donors to Romney’s campaign were already donating more to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign than they had been donating to any one of the 2016 campaigns of (listed here in declining order below Clinton) Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina, Chris Christie, Rick Perry, Mike Huckabee, Donald Trump, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, George Pataki, or Jim Gilmore. Those major Romney donors also gave a little to two Democrats (other than to Hillary — who, as mentioned, received a lot of donations from these Republican donors): Martin O’Malley, Jim Web, and Lawrence Lessig. (Romney’s donors gave nothing to Bernie Sanders, and nothing to Elizabeth Warren. They don’t want either of those people to become President.)"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-2 ... can-donors

Could a fair number of Democrats choose to vote for Trump rather than Clinton just because they are tired of the status quo? Hilary was on the board of Walmart and did absolutely nothing as Walmart crushed unionisation efforts, drove the TPP for Obama, has never seen a war she didn't like, loves bankers and hopes they love her too, listens to the war criminal Kissinger for advice... I think she just might get defeated by Trump :roll: It would be a sign of just how fed up some people in America were.

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Post by GT93 » February 23, 2016, 1:30 pm

Yes, I could see that scenario coming about. Trump would have to change tack and moderate his behaviour to peel away enough of these Democrats. I think he'd do it if it meant he could get into the Oval Office.

The Republican establishment would be cursing a choice between Trump and Clinton. Quite a few, including many of the Bushes, might secretly follow Romney's donors and vote Clinton. After all Bill is practically a part of the Bush family these days.
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Post by Jsell50 » February 23, 2016, 4:49 pm

The basic problem that will more than likely stop any Republican from getting elected is the "Entitlement Class" vote. As long as there are so many with their mouths on the government tit, you will never get anyone in office trying to wean them off it. Then you get the do-gooders who think it is a major crime to make anyone contribute to the welfare of the country who doesn't want to. Personally I would just show them the door.

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Post by Jello » February 24, 2016, 12:46 am

Here's a political fact checker website that analyzes the statements that politicians make. Of course no politician on this website has a perfect record, but Mr Trump has earned their 2015 lie of the year award.
Donald Trump has been a real estate developer, entrepreneur and host of the NBC reality show, "The Apprentice." He is running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. Trump's statements were awarded PolitiFact's 2015 Lie of the Year.

Trump's statements by ruling
True 1 (1%)
Mostly True 6 (6%)
Half True 15 (16%)
Mostly False 18 (19%)
False 37 (39%)
Pants on Fire 18 (19%)
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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Post by Jsell50 » February 24, 2016, 7:26 am

So we should prefer the liars we know? We know Hilary lied about things that cost Americans their lives. Is that better than Trumps lies?

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Post by ronan01 » February 24, 2016, 5:47 pm

Trump seems increasingly popular and it seems the unthinkable may happen!

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Post by Jello » February 24, 2016, 8:46 pm

Another entertaining anecdote from Mr Trump. Did he stumble upon a magical method of ending terrorism?
:-k


Fact checker result - "pants-on-fire" lie.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... en-pershi/
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Post by Jello » February 24, 2016, 9:14 pm

ronan01 wrote:Trump seems increasingly popular and it seems the unthinkable may happen!
Can't wait to see the headlines:
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Post by ronan01 » February 24, 2016, 9:54 pm

Jello wrote:
ronan01 wrote:Trump seems increasingly popular and it seems the unthinkable may happen!
Can't wait to see the headlines:
Image
:lol:
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Post by papafarang » February 25, 2016, 12:40 am

i'm really not sure what I think of any off them, Trump don't seem like the usual republican, which in itself is a bit refreshing, and Clinton seems to be more of an old school hawkish republican. it's almost like there in the wrong parties. I think it will be down to this pair anyway and I might just swing trumps way slightly as voting Clinton would just be voting to keep the status quo . where as trump might come up with new ideas like America getting on with other countries rather than just seeing everyone else as enemies. I suppose it's worth a try . perhaps after the party nominations are over we might get a bit more meat about policies
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Post by Jsell50 » February 25, 2016, 6:22 am

Clinton would have to be born again to be even close to a republican. Her socialist views keep her firmly to the left. Trump has never been anything more than a capitalist. He believes in a strong economy and reining in government spending for outrageous social programs.

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Post by MALC » February 25, 2016, 6:57 am

trump ;s the man for me

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Post by Barney » February 25, 2016, 7:58 am

MALC wrote:trump ;s the man for me

Agree, if all the talk is anything to go by, daylight will be 2nd in the race to the white house.

He may have woken that big lazy bear in America and got them onside....... the majority who previously had the "I don't give a rats ar.se" attitude and never bothered to wake up on voting day...they have an alternative now.

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Post by Jello » February 25, 2016, 8:17 am

Can you tell me his specific plans and platforms? (not just hot button bumper sticker statments)
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Post by Jsell50 » February 25, 2016, 9:59 am

"Agree, if all the talk is anything to go by, daylight will be 2nd in the race to the white house.

He may have woken that big lazy bear in America and got them onside....... the majority who previously had the "I don't give a rats ar.se" attitude and never bothered to wake up on voting day...they have an alternative now."

I agree also but I don't ever see him getting in. There are way too many "Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee voters out there, and they will come out in droves to keep their entitlements. You will probably even see them coming back from the dead to vote.

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Post by Jsell50 » February 25, 2016, 10:09 am

"Can you tell me his specific plans and platforms? (not just hot button bumper sticker statments)"

Answer: Here are a couple for starters.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/ ... ion-reform

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

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Post by Jello » February 25, 2016, 11:05 pm

Thanks.

Trump lists his 5 major positions on his website with detailed proposals of his plans.

1. US China trade -
This is something I didn't understand when he goes on about how China is screwing us. So I looked up some background info here-
US China trade deficit 101: http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepoli ... -trade.htm

And a rebuttal to his plan (linked below) that makes me wonder if it's really even an issue to us at this point. Once those jobs are gone there not coming back without a high cost to the consumer.-
Donald Trump’s China trade plan would make American families pay a lot more for food, clothing, electronics, and everything else that now says ‘Made in China.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/20/alm ... -is-wrong/

2. VA reform-
Sounds great to me, But privatizing health care for veterans is going to cost some money. How much his plan would cost the federal government or how he would pay for the reforms is not detailed on his website.

3. Tax reform-
Sounds good to me as I'll be paying zero federal income tax on under this plan. Everyone loves the promise of a tax cut, but is it good for the country?
According to the Citizens for Tax Justice, Trump's tax proposal would reduce revenues by around $900 billion per year, which would translate to about $9 trillion over a decade. The Tax Foundation is singing a similar tune: It predicts that the billionaire's plan would reduce tax revenue by some $10 trillion over the next 10 years (when measured alongside economic growth).
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/29/polit ... -tax-cost/
4. 2nd amendment-
Right out of the NRA playbook. No surprises here.

5. Immigration Reform-
To me, this ambitious proposal is the most appealing one on the list. But you have to remember that the immigration problem is by design. That cat's out of the bag and ran down the street years ago.
The first sentence in his plan is “When politicians talk about ‘immigration reform’ they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open borders,” and he’s right. Few national politicians and fewer business leaders are serious about deporting 11 million people. Undocumented immigrants are a necessary part of the national economy; American enforcement practices are designed to manage, not eliminate, violations of border laws.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2 ... l-war.html
Trump has stated many times that he will round up all illegal aliens and deport them, however this is not stated on the website. This opinion piece (linked above) is just an opinion, but does make me wonder what deporting 11 million people would look like. Would they just go peaceably into the night? Probably not.
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Post by papafarang » February 25, 2016, 11:20 pm

with politicians ,what they say and what they do are two different things, i'm still not sure whether he we sort the world problems out or be the cause of the end of humanity ?
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