Sausages

[papafarang]

i think we need to sort out the difference between manufacturer advertising and retail advertising. every washing powder seller say's they have the best washing powder, I have never seen a manufacturer advertise their product as being not quite as good as their rivals products . it is though the responsibility of the retailer to advertise their prices, if they wish to. then of course the next part comes into being, which is the best soap powder ? that is up to the consumers, you might like Daz or you might like Omo, personal choice

[skinner]

Agree I don't get the secrecy of prices. If a business won't advertise the price I won't bother shopping there. Well done Ken for advertising with prices.
You can crap on all you like about how good your product is but at the end of the day people buy a product for a combination of taste and price.
Instead of having s pissing Comp it'd be good gor all the sausage Guru's to lay it on the line with price, ingredients, flavours available etc

Spot on. anybody selling anything and not advertising the price is usually selling at inflated prices.
Maybe their prices embarrass themselves.

[noosard]

but no guarantee that the pork they are using is fresh, slaughtered when, kept how, frozen already.

I know when the meat is freshly killed
Can hear the squealing from the house

[Pooclover]

Not as fresh as porkhouseco
SAUSAGES
P.OCONNOR
WEBSITE http://WWW.PORKHOUSECO.COM

It’s getting rather tiresome reading about "porkhouseco" products being the “best” almost to a point of "Spam"ing... (Deliberate pun there) Their main premises of business are not even open as yet.

[12345]

Continuing on with my research and thoughts. Research first, OK, not mine, but from one of the most trusted sources on all things food in Udon Thani. Knows a good value, but goes high-end much more than myself. His recent purchases.

Porkhouse breakfast sausages 320 per kg (guessing from Sophie's, as only one selling at that time, I think)
Chris Place 280 per kg
Gourmet meats 288 per kg

Also pointing out that, with exception of Dean's telling you whats in his fine products, the lack of labeling on all the out of town processing is a big question mark with myself. Dean's for me, in that aspect. Though not a big English sausage fan, and why I make my own patties. Freshness, again, I would think locally produces wins. Also you can test Dean's and Fuzzy's, by simply buying something already cooked up, without rolling the dice on a kg of something untested.

Now.............did someone say fresh...........

This morning's purchase, and the only person making them fresher today, would probably be me, if in the mood. I have not tested these, so haven't a clue, and yes I know, I'm comparing apples to oranges. But fresh ones. Cost....all of ฿120 a kg. I'll test a couple, and may re-spice them, if possible, as prefer a sage sausage, or an Italian spicy sausage.

Now this is fresh, locally made, though wife was not with me, so couldn't ask anything other than "toa rai krup"



฿120 per kilo, or as close to, this purchase, just over.



This is one kg, with Nexus7 for comparison



And Fuzzy Ken's wares, and kudos for laying thing out to speak. Though crap upload (UM site only), so don't think you can read the fine print. To read Fuzzy's offerings, need to open in another window / tab, then save to comp, then open and read. something wrong with way UM displays pics.

[samuel]

It’s getting rather tiresome reading about "porkhouseco" products being the “best” almost to a point of "Spam"ing...

it's a thin line between "creating heat" and "getting burned".

as a potential customer, i expect the following:

• detailed product description
• real picture (no fakes)
• actual price
• point of sale

all informed in one package and not like salami slices....
if not i'm losing interest very soon.

so has happened already. guess which one.

[12345]

More thoughts from afar, and thanks 'P', as valuable input and opinion, as always, and food for thought.

So Fuzzy kens 129 baht for 500g for pork or 139 baht for 500g for cumberland,and it is a relief that most suppliers are offering 500g packs whether it be sausages or bacon.
Putting me off buying 1kg and up, and all prices re frozen goods only seen,none fresh.
Tops has yorkies pork sausages in 500g frozen packs but priced about 179 baht from memory,and from memory had all the labels ,packaging and expiry date,plus ingredients ,no doubt selling through a supermarket needs to have as full a label as possible

[Fuzzy Ken]

Over the past few years in Udon we have seen suppliers come and go but a common denominator has almost always been a lack of a printed price list. I would not criticise other companies work practices but suffice to say that we will not purchase from any company that, for what ever reason, does not publish product descriptions with prices.

As they say, proof of the pudding etc. and that is why the products sold here are the same whether you want a sausage for breakfast in our restaurant or take away frozen to enjoy later.

May I mention that our sausages, bacon and black pudding etc. are supplied by a well respected company holding FDA certification.

Thanks for all the comments
Fuzzyken's

ps Back in the UK a friend of mine purchased bacon and after eating it broke out in a nasty rasher !

[Barney]

Can anyone tell me where i can buy some decent pork and beef sausages for the bbq i am so sick of looking.

You haven't come back again K1w1nev
I'm sure you have what you wanted to get from your posy by now


Let us know where you went for your meat

[Drunk Monkey]

Heres my take on pricing ...

Retailers should when ever possible openly state standard prices then any promotions there after , i know some do n some dont as its nice to actually get prospective customers into the premises and increases the chance of a sale or larger sale .

Wholesalers ..Having been in this game for a considerable time and involved with numerous importers and other wholesalers of various products i dont know many if ANY at all that openly advertise their prices to the general public , as we /they supply for the most part businesses who are selling on the products to the general public at a profit and these businesses are already furnished with an up to date price / product list .

With regard to the porkhouse location next door to us , i believe this is going to be a wholesale outlet supplying agents in other locations around Isaan as they are already doing at Sophies in Udon town center.

With regard to sausages im a Lincolnshire sausage kinda guy and have my own made by a guy in Bkk , same fella who makes our TAP Melton Mowbray PORK PIES and i happily pay him 250 bt per kg plus delivery costs as they are my dream banger , i would actually pay double i love them so much ....

We all have our own opinion and as stated its all down to personal taste AND BUDGET , this obviously applies to all shopping whether a tin of beans a new fridge or motor car .

DM

[papafarang]

I once asked WALL'S about their wholesale price, they were prepared to give me a price, only after a pay a deposit of 150,000,000b and signed a disclosure agreement, try asking Bangkok meats how much they sell their products to makro

[skinner]

Heres my take on pricing ...

Retailers should when ever possible openly state standard prices then any promotions there after , i know some do n some dont as its nice to actually get prospective customers into the premises and increases the chance of a sale or larger sale .

Wholesalers ..Having been in this game for a considerable time and involved with numerous importers and other wholesalers of various products i dont know many if ANY at all that openly advertise their prices to the general public , as we /they supply for the most part businesses who are selling on the products to the general public at a profit and these businesses are already furnished with an up to date price / product list .

With regard to the porkhouse location next door to us , i believe this is going to be a wholesale outlet supplying agents in other locations around Isaan as they are already doing at Sophies in Udon town center.

With regard to sausages im a Lincolnshire sausage kinda guy and have my own made by a guy in Bkk , same fella who makes our TAP Melton Mowbray PORK PIES and i happily pay him 250 bt per kg plus delivery costs as they are my dream banger , i would actually pay double i love them so much ....

We all have our own opinion and as stated its all down to personal taste AND BUDGET , this obviously applies to all shopping whether a tin of beans a new fridge or motor car .

DM

How can it not be possible for a retailer to advertise standard prices ??
Do they know the price of their product or not ??
Is it a case of seeing how much money they think they can gouge from the customer once he is in the door??
I think most consumers would prefer straight talking retailers, and that includes a straight answer about the price.
They can then make the simple decision to buy or walk away.

[mac1966]

Have to agree, always avoided cc because they never put a price on their ads.

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[skinner]

I once asked WALL'S about their wholesale price, they were prepared to give me a price, only after a pay a deposit of 150,000,000b and signed a disclosure agreement, try asking Bangkok meats how much they sell their products to makro

As the opening poster was asking about sausages for his barbecue, I think its fair to say he is not a retailer looking to sell on the said sausages, unless of course the said barbecue is mounted on the back of his motorcycle and he will be dressed up as a sausage
If that is the case , I am sure there will be a new thread on this forum very soon.

[papafarang]

I once asked WALL'S about their wholesale price, they were prepared to give me a price, only after a pay a deposit of 150,000,000b and signed a disclosure agreement, try asking Bangkok meats how much they sell their products to makro

As the opening poster was asking about sausages for his barbecue, I think its fair to say he is not a retailer looking to sell on the said sausages, unless of course the said barbecue is mounted on the back of his motorcycle and he will be dressed up as a sausage
If that is the case , I am sure there will be a new thread on this forum very soon.

yeh the guy was just asking for sausages
as for cc ,well I don't think their active advertisers any more, its called the aussie steak house now, and I don't think they have advertised sausages for a long while ? as for retailers coming and going ,that's just the nature of the game

[Drunk Monkey]

Heres my take on pricing ...

Retailers should when ever possible openly state standard prices then any promotions there after , i know some do n some dont as its nice to actually get prospective customers into the premises and increases the chance of a sale or larger sale .

Wholesalers ..Having been in this game for a considerable time and involved with numerous importers and other wholesalers of various products i dont know many if ANY at all that openly advertise their prices to the general public , as we /they supply for the most part businesses who are selling on the products to the general public at a profit and these businesses are already furnished with an up to date price / product list .

With regard to the porkhouse location next door to us , i believe this is going to be a wholesale outlet supplying agents in other locations around Isaan as they are already doing at Sophies in Udon town center.

With regard to sausages im a Lincolnshire sausage kinda guy and have my own made by a guy in Bkk , same fella who makes our TAP Melton Mowbray PORK PIES and i happily pay him 250 bt per kg plus delivery costs as they are my dream banger , i would actually pay double i love them so much ....

We all have our own opinion and as stated its all down to personal taste AND BUDGET , this obviously applies to all shopping whether a tin of beans a new fridge or motor car .

DM

How can it not be possible for a retailer to advertise standard prices ??
Do they know the price of their product or not ??
Is it a case of seeing how much money they think they can gouge from the customer once he is in the door??
I think most consumers would prefer straight talking retailers, and that includes a straight answer about the price.
They can then make the simple decision to buy or walk away.

READ MY POST AGAIN .....it clearly states IMO RETAILERS SHOULD SHOW PRICES when possible simply means with some imported products the price can change from delivery to delivery container to container depending on issues such as tax / duty , shipping/delivery costs and purchasing prices in the source country ...

I dont know any wholesalers that openly advertise their pricing to the general public ... different issue entirely.

As retailers of Imported beverages our prices are set until the wholesaler i use changes theirs , no problem at all advertising our prices and promotions etc and if any customer wishes to drop by to taste , buy or just browse thats fine by us.... we never have had or never will have this gouge mentality you mention anyone operating a business who does would soon be out of customers and out of business .

DM

[12345]

As for pricing, or lack of, I don't think anyone was asking for wholesale prices, as website states, ask there, if a retailer, or wanting to be.

BUT..... a MSRP or ball park of their products at their retailers would have been nice.

I think most of us can think a bit for ourselves..........."Our suggested price to retailers, should be in the ฿320 ± range" We can assume it will be something close, maybe ฿10 ish more, and if less, can advertise discounted.

I'm sure, would think anyway, they did their due diligence, and priced what's available. Especially from Foreigner managed vendors, came up with a premium price for their premium product and to be sold as. Simple enough.

Toyota, Nabisco, Chang doesn't send products out to retailers without MSRP, and retailer can discount as much as they wish, though noticed here, that simply isn't done much.

Now we know 320 ish, so can decide to pick some up.........or not, or test as brekkie item at said vendors or a sandwich with said sausage before splashing out for a kg or half.

Wasn't too much to ask for..........was it???

Sidenote: sausage links I picked up this AM..........apples to oranges as expected, just looking at them, but, we'll just say, extreme local flavor, or, you get what you pay for. OK, I'll be, just not my preference.

Think I'll stick to making my own.

[Khun Paul]

The argument over the cost of sausages and whether the price is displayed is rather silly. Most places I buy food from unless it is of course Big C or Tesco, you actually have to have a conversation to ascertain the price for the goods you want. Steve at T bar displays the price on the door for his pies but for his sausages you have to look at the packet you have chosen. Elsewhere you ask. it is called conversation and in talking to the retailer you might on occasion find a discount or two depending on what and how many you buy and whether he/she likes you or not.

it seems that some posters have forgotten the power of speech and thereby require everything in black and white so they can make their mind up from the safety of their armchairs without venturing outside to actually meet another human being.
The old adage if you have to ask the price you cannot afford it , does not apply to food which varies enormously depending on what and how many or much you buy, also as Jon says, each to their own. There have been occasionally times when I purchased some sausages which were not to my taste, so next time I changed the type and always seek as many do the best bargain for what I want but in all truthfulness, if you want good food you have to pay for it.

[grievous]

Not silly at all KP. Some people don't want to or don't have the time to drive all over town checking prices out. If you advertise how great your product is and then another post asks the price why would you answer pop in and I'll tell you? What's the big secret? Just mention prices may vary slightly due to exchange rates if imported.

[12345]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the sausages are imported..........are they ???