U.S. Politics

[skinner]

Nigel Evans, Member of Parliament, NAILS IT.
"Get over it."

What exactly does the viewpoint of a single person, even if he is a member of the mother of parliaments prove? How does that NAIL IT?
Maybe you like his viewpoint because like trump he suggests that global walming isn't a fact?

As far as Lonestar is concerned its on fox news so it must be true. idiots feeding on news for idiots

[sometimewoodworker]

Nigel Evans, Member of Parliament, NAILS IT.
"Get over it."

What exactly does the viewpoint of a single person, even if he is a member of the mother of parliaments prove? How does that NAIL IT?
Maybe you like his viewpoint because like trump he suggests that global walming isn't a fact?

As far as Lonestar is concerned its on fox news so it must be true. idiots feeding on news for idiots

Calling Fox a new service is like calling the US or UK a representative democracy. It isn't, they aren't (though they maybe slightly closer than fox is).

[joudon]

If you still believe in the global warming hype then perhaps YOU are the idiot.

[Lone Star]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/bank-of ... -2018.html

The Bank of America cost-cutting machine hummed along for another quarter.

The second-biggest U.S. lender said that second-quarter profit surged 33 percent to $6.8 billion, exceeding the $5.92 billion estimate of analysts surveyed by FactSet. Executives said it was the 14th straight quarter the firm posted positive operating leverage, or increased profit by turning levers including costs.

The Charlotte, North Carolina-based bank said it managed to boost revenue while cutting expenses more than analysts had expected. The lender trimmed costs by 5 percent to $13.3 billion, beating the $13.5 billion forecast of analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters. Meanwhile, revenue rose 3 percent to $22.6 billion, compared to the $22.3 billion estimate, excluding a year ago-gain tied to a business sale. The company's earnings per share surged 43 percent to 63 cents per share, crushing the 57 cent per share estimate.

Still, of all the figures on the bank's income statement for the quarter, the most stark change was a 43 percent drop in the bank's income taxes to $1.7 billion from $3 billion. That looked to be the single biggest factor in the bank's profit increase in the quarter. The administration's tax cut, which took effect this year, also allowed the firm to announce a new $500 million technology investment, Bank of America said.

Trump's tax cuts creating profits and new investment opportunities for businesses.

STEADY WINNING.

[skinner]

If you still believe in the global warming hype then perhaps YOU are the idiot.

Oh dear, somebody else that gets their information from fox

[tinpeeba]

tinpeeba, I repeat.

If this petty criticism is all you've got versus all of the documented accomplishments of this president after only 18 months in office, you are on the wrong side of issues important to restoring America after the destruction wrought by the previous administration. Reversing much of what occurred between 2009 and 2016 is why America has rebounded.

There are times when Trump says things that make me cringe a bit, but when weighed against the actions that he has taken to strengthen the country domestically, economically and overseas, his actions for good for America far outweigh anything that Trump fails to say in a politically correct way.

Perhaps you'd prefer Merkel of Deutschland -- throwing open the gates for invaders to criminally assault, rape and murder her citizens and acting like everything is just fine.

Perhaps May of the UK -- ignoring the will of her people and a democratic election to retire to the smoke-filled rooms to finagle some half-measure that minimizes the Brexit vote of her People. Not to mention people thrown in jail for speaking truth and the society over-run with invaders imposing their cultural norms and values upon British citizens and in their "no go" zones.

Or Macron of France -- chastising other EU members for wanting to defend their borders, their cultures and their societies against criminal invaders. Macron's misery seeking company.

Always very proper language from those three. Appearances always so prim and proper. Rarely if ever have any verbal misstep as they maneuver through political language with all the right things to say -- to cover up what they are doing. They are always sure to say the right things while their actions undermine the safety, the security and the Will of THEIR People.

I'll take Trump's sometimes poor choice of words and successful actions for his citizens over any of those other elected leaders. There is not a leader of any country in the world that I would prefer in his place, and I can't think of one American politician who would have accomplished as much in the face of all of the frivolous attacks, lies, lawsuits and other efforts to undermine his administration. Anyone else would have crumbled, stumbled and been looking for an exit out the door at the first opportunity. Trump is the right person for the job at this time in American history.

So keep on dancing with glee over your petty criticisms of Trump's words. Trump is doing what so many other leaders in other countries are failing to do -- stand with his Citizens and keep his promises with decisive action.

Too bad if the world doesn't like "America First." Trump was elected to govern in America -- not the world. He is committed to not allowing America or its citizens to be screwed over in the homeland or abroad. Citizens of other countries can only hope that they had an elected leader who cares as much about them and their homeland as Trump loves and cares for the US and its People.

Lone Star, you are saying, I think, that Trump's words do not matter much - just look at the result. But words are action. Trump used words to get himself elected and he's using words to further his policies. Words have consequences, especially when those words are lies. So I think it is important to pay attention to the disjunction between his words and reality and to expose it.

A President's words set a tone and, amongst other regrettable effects, Trump's rhetoric has emboldened extreme nationalists and xenophobes both in the US and around the world. His ill-chosen words have squandered a lot of the goodwill held towards America but I don't suppose that bothers either him or you very much.

It is also troubling that that although Trump may not be an outright Fascist, he does use Fascist methodology i.e. feed on and inflame grievances by setting your followers against the “enemies of the people”, tell your supporters that there are simple fixes for complex problems, present yourself as a national saviour and attempt to subvert, discredit and eliminate liberal institutions.

It can be argued either way whether Trump's actions are strengthening or weakening America depending on one's viewpoint and definition of success. For example, a country could be strong economically but at the expense of a polluted environment and its people consisting of a hyper-rich fringe and a mass of just-getting-by, suffocating inhabitants with poor medical care and other amenities. It is necessary to look at the wider picture and longer term consequences before talking about a successful administration.

Regarding the other Western leaders you denounce in your post, I am not at all enamoured of any of them but your characterisations of them are patently false and they are all preferable to Trump who could end up dragging America and the world to a very dark place.

You seem to regard Donald Trump as a real hero but please don't forget; all heroes have feet of clay.

[papafarang]

fascist ? probably not ? Fascist methodology definitely 100%. the odd one was when he started calling for political opponents to be imprisoned and that went strait over peoples heads . mind you despot presidents all over the world have done that before so I guess it's the norm now even for an American president, like secret prisons and torture . but then this Is only petty criticism

[vincemunday]

Wow Bouph! Lots of padding out in your post there. The Soldiers fighting during the wars from all countries were in the main fiercely Royalist, the phrase “for K.i.n.g and Country” wouldn’t have been uncommon. Yes our royal lineage has changed over the centuries, invasion and skullduggery made sure of that. What does it matter if they changed their names, shagged a film star or a couple of their hundreds of European family members were deposed, killed or disinherited? The fact remains our Royal family has existed in one form or another for over a thousand years and many people including myself are firm supporters of the Queen and think a little respect is in order.

[vincemunday]

Trump calls out Germany and France, I’m sure it’s fake news, his numbers are wrong and his wife has a secret tap into the pipeline and has russian links in her family and George Soros is her uncle.

I like this guy, he says what he means and means what he says, America will be great again under his leadership.

https://www.facebook.com/Breitbart/vide ... 998655354/

[joudon]

As a Brit who through work have been to USA countless times, I must say US President Trump is a breath of fresh air. He has debunked previously accepted 'global ideas'. His main attributes to me are that he calls things as he sees them, not like his predecessor who did basically what he was told to do, and number one he is NON PC.
To answer a previous slur, I gave up watching ALL tv 12 years ago, I shun all mainstream media, BBC,CNN, Fox etc being almost criminal in their distorted '''news coverage'''.
On the question of Global warming, in UK 2,000 years ago the Romans cultivated vines and made wine as far north as Northumbria. a computer analysis confirms the obvious, that certainly in UK, it has cooled in the last 2000 years. .These facts are ignored as they do not fit in with (laugh) so called progressive thought.

[Lone Star]

As a Brit who through work have been to USA countless times, I must say US President Trump is a breath of fresh air. He has debunked previously accepted 'global ideas'. His main attributes to me are that he calls things as he sees them, not like his predecessor who did basically what he was told to do, and number one he is NON PC.
To answer a previous slur, I gave up watching ALL tv 12 years ago, I shun all mainstream media, BBC,CNN, Fox etc being almost criminal in their distorted '''news coverage'''.
On the question of Global warming, in UK 2,000 years ago the Romans cultivated vines and made wine as far north as Northumbria. a computer analysis confirms the obvious, that certainly in UK, it has cooled in the last 2000 years. .These facts are ignored as they do not fit in with (laugh) so called progressive thought.

joudon, we are in the same line of thought on all of these issues, but I have you beat on television-watching. It's been at least 20 years for me. Never turn it on anywhere. Not even in hotels. Had a second home (apartment) in Pattaya. Told them they could take the TV out because I wasn't interested in watching or paying monthly cable fees.

Yes, Trump is his own man and does what is best for America. In the words of Nigel Evans, Member of Parliament: "He's going to go down in history as being roundly condemned for being the only politician to ever deliver on his promises." It is what and how Trump says it that got him elected. He tells the ugly truth, and then works to fix it. That's been the pattern from the beginning.

And as for the hoax called man-made climate change, I'm laughing with you.

[Lone Star]

Dr. Monica Crowley TELLS IT.

She is correct. Yes, Conservatives hate John McCain more than what Trump ever said about him. That's why Trump's numbers went up after his comments about Loser McCain.

She is correct. Trump has pretty much rekt all of the naysayers. He beat back 16 Republicans in the primaries. Then he had to fight Obama and the White House, Hillary, the Clinton Machine, Bill Clinton, the Bush Machine, the Far Left, the Democrat Establishment, the Republican Establishment, Hollywood and the Media. Trump's message drowned out all of those efforts on his way to the White House. Now Trump is having to fight Democrats, GOPe Mush in the Congress, phony investigations, lies, smears and fake news -- and so far, TRUMP STILL BRINGS AMERICA OUT ON TOP.

"You only take fire when you're over the target."

[Lone Star]

Lone Star, you are saying, I think, that Trump's words do not matter much - just look at the result. But words are action. Trump used words to get himself elected and he's using words to further his policies. Words have consequences, especially when those words are lies. So I think it is important to pay attention to the disjunction between his words and reality and to expose it.

Trump's words DO matter, and they matter very much. They tell the ugly truth that not many want to discuss or to see. I pay very close to attention to his words. So far, he has delivered.

A President's words set a tone and, amongst other regrettable effects, Trump's rhetoric has emboldened extreme nationalists and xenophobes both in the US and around the world. His ill-chosen words have squandered a lot of the goodwill held towards America but I don't suppose that bothers either him or you very much.

Yes, they do set the tone, and the tone is "America First." The fact that extremists or xenophobes take what he says and take those words BEYOND what Trump has said is not Trump's fault. Trump has repeatedly spoken about being for ALL Americans and wanting to bring all Americans together for the country.

Trump and other leaders around the world who want to strengthen their borders and limit immigrants to those who are desirable and willing to assimilate is a result of increased crime and attacks on the society. These stances weren't dreamed up over nothing -- and certainly not over race or religion or any of the others LIB/PROG propaganda. They are a response to actions of terrorism, lost wages, lost jobs, crime and lawlessness. These countries want to put THEIR own citizens before others who wish to damage their societies. I applaud it.

Whose good will has been squandered? What has Trump said, and what has been the direct effect of what he has said? If you're referring to people being upset that Trump is talking down and reversing socialist and globalist policies of past presidents without the balls to act, you're right. It doesn't bother me. It all means that everyone has to take America seriously again.

It is also troubling that that although Trump may not be an outright Fascist, he does use Fascist methodology i.e. feed on and inflame grievances by setting your followers against the “enemies of the people”, tell your supporters that there are simple fixes for complex problems, present yourself as a national saviour and attempt to subvert, discredit and eliminate liberal institutions.

Trump has been the champion of "the forgotten man" from the very beginning. He has put all of their concerns on the table, and those forgotten men and women responded positively. Even Nigel Evans, Member of Parliament, acknowledged the forgotten men and women of both the UK and the US in his speech regarding Trump's visit. If you want to characterize that as 'fascist', that's you. I guess it makes 'populism' sound more horrific and damaging.

What liberal institutions has Trump attempted to subvert, discredit and eliminate and how?

It can be argued either way whether Trump's actions are strengthening or weakening America depending on one's viewpoint and definition of success. For example, a country could be strong economically but at the expense of a polluted environment and its people consisting of a hyper-rich fringe and a mass of just-getting-by, suffocating inhabitants with poor medical care and other amenities. It is necessary to look at the wider picture and longer term consequences before talking about a successful administration.

Yes, it can be argued either way, but so far, America is succeeding under Trump's actions. There's no denying the results. You are free to criticize him for whatever reason. You can even ignore those positive results. It doesn't minimize them or make them go away.

Can you name of the "expenses" that have resulted from Trump's actions? Specifically.

Regarding the other Western leaders you denounce in your post, I am not at all enamoured of any of them but your characterisations of them are patently false and they are all preferable to Trump who could end up dragging America and the world to a very dark place.

How are my statements false regarding Merkel, Macron and May?

You're entitled to your opinions regarding wanting any of them over Trump, but your doom and gloom "could end up dragging America and the world" blah blah blah is what all LIBs and PROGs have been screaming since the beginning. When it happens, I will be disappointed, and you'll be correct and happy. At some point, there is going to be some bad things. I'm prepared and willing to call them out.

You seem to regard Donald Trump as a real hero but please don't forget; all heroes have feet of clay.

Again, Trump was not my candidate. However, he is my president, and his efforts are to improve America. As long as that is accomplished overall, I'll be happy. Thus far, Trump has made good on his promises and continues to work toward the goal of "America First." When I think he does something that results in damage, I will call him out. I have done it with every president -- regardless of party.

[tamada]

... When I think he does something that results in damage, I will call him out. I have done it with every president -- regardless of party.

So, coming slap bang right up to date, how about?

New York Daily News - don't shoot the messenger!

[Lone Star]

... When I think he does something that results in damage, I will call him out. I have done it with every president -- regardless of party.

So, coming slap bang right up to date, how about?

I don't think it has resulted in any damage -- just the usual hand-wringing and hair-imploding moments. More of that hope and wishing for failure. Trump handed the eneMedia a sword. I would have definitely said it differently.

It's a typical knee-jerk reaction to a poor choice of words by going off script. We'll see how it plays out going forward.

My views of all of this drama and fake trauma can best be described in the following:



Special note should be taken to view the video and see the list of sanctions that still remain in place vs Russia under Trump's watch.

The summary of it all is that it was a meeting to promote dialogue and peace. Putin didn't get anything that he wanted out of this meeting. He wanted US troops out of Syria, stop weaponizing the Ukraine, Crimea annexation to be recognized, trade sanctions lifted and visas unfrozen. Putin got none of it. But the media is spinning it all as if Trump gave them Hawaii and Alaska.

We'll see how it plays out going forward.

[Lone Star]

Nothing would be easier politically than to refuse to meet, to refuse to engage, but that would not accomplish anything.

As president, I cannot make decisions on foreign policy in a futile effort to appease partisan critics, or the media, or Democrats who want to do nothing but resist and obstruct.

Constructive dialogue between the United States and Russia afford the opportunity to open new pathways toward peace and stability in our world.

I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics.

As president, I will always put what is best for America and what is best for the American people.

- Trump's partial remarks at the end of the Helsinki Summit

Link to full transcript:
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/16/62946240 ... conference

LIBs/PROGs do all the hand-wringing and hair exploding into flames in their worry over Trump starting wars -- and then bitch because Trump wants to talk with adversaries and isn't tough enough on Russia. It's just another example of LIB/PROG hypocrisy.

If Trump tries to mend fences with Putin, his critics label him a traitor. If Trump is aggressive with Russia, and an arms race results, then Trump will be labeled as a war monger. Trump will never get credit from his haters no matter what efforts are made. So as long as he errs on the side of peace and on what's good for America, I'm happy.

Dialogue with enemies and attempts at peace are breaking out all over, and LIBs/PROGs hate it because it's Trump promoting peace -- and they couldn't pull it off with their weak, feckless foreign policy.

[jimjay]

Dialogue with enemies and attempts at peace are breaking out all over.

AND GOING NOWHERE

COMRADE LONE-STAR

IT'S ALL JUST FOR SHOW

THE JOKE'S ON HIM

WHICH MEANS IT'S ON YOU TOO

KIM JONG UN, XI JINPING, VLADIMIR PUTIN

ARE THE ENEMY ALWAYS WILL BE

WHEN THEIR INVASION FORCE IN PLACE

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO "DEBATE" YOUR WAY OUT OF IT

HELL THEY WON'T EVEN NEED TO INVADE

THEY'LL JUST CUT THE UNDERSEA CABLES AND LAY SIEGE

TRANSACTIONS TERMINATED

GAME OVER

[Giggle]

A refreshing change from years of the Drone Ranger. I thought liberals were generally doves. Why are they suddenly so hawkish and against negotiations? Strange lot.

[joudon]

So not much to chose from then, with the Democrats and all the leftie elites with their fake news backers intent on flooding USA with all sorts of criminals, drug pushers and economic migrants not forgetting the muslims intent on turning USA into an Islamic paradise on earth (men only.)

[jimjay]

So not much to chose from then, with the Democrats and all the leftie elites with their fake news backers intent on flooding USA with all sorts of criminals, drug pushers and economic migrants not forgetting the muslims intent on turning USA into an Islamic paradise on earth (men only.)

NO MUZZIES WILL EVER TAKE OVER ANY PART OF USA

HAJI IS DOOMED FOREVER IN OUR COUNTRY

YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE EUROPEAN FOOLS

DRUG PUSHERS = THE MAKERS OF FENTANYL & BIG MONEY PHARMA

GANGS HAVE BEEN IN USA FOR 70+ YEARS

LATIN KINGS

VICE LORDS

BLACK GANGSTER DISCIPLES

CRIPS

THEY'RE CITIZENS, YET NO ONE'S EVER STOPPED THEM, IT'S TOO PROFITABLE FOR THE PRISON INDUSTRY / POLICE STATE.

SO QUIT CRYING ABOUT MS-13, THERE'S ONLY 10,000 OF THEM, DONE IN SOON BY SINALOA & 18ST