Nong's Ribs - New Restaurant [CLOSED]

[jetdoc]

"not to mention plush booths and asthetic surroundings," rjb These are one off start up expenses as opposed to ongoing overhead;o)

[valentine]

[quote="valentine"]Just for info. My wife bought a rack of ribs in Nong Wua Sor market this morning, 50baht a kilo. [/quote]

I never insinuate, straight to the point me.

[rjb]

you might be right jetdoc, then again, unless the "startup" expenses were paid cash there is a monthly debt to pay or are we splitting hairs and is it really that big a deal and who really cares? I have noticed regular price increases in the farang restaurants we eat in so Ed isn't really out of line in his prices, which were more than reasonable to start with. Everyone will make their decision to eat there based on what is important, or not, to them. We will, 75 b for decent food and surroundings won't hurt me.

[valentine]

"not to mention plush booths and asthetic surroundings," rjb These are one off start up expenses as opposed to ongoing overhead;o)

In normal accountancy practise these would be classed as "fixtures and fittings" and would remain on the books as an asset but subject to annual write down in value which would be offset against gross profit for the year. The original purchase would be considered as "capital introduced"Therefore the write down cost is considered to be an operating cost each year.

[rjb]

Thanks for the lesson, I think but nothing to do with ribs etc.

[arjay]

I thought Val was giving the price of the raw material thus enabling members to compare the price of the raw material to the finished product - the meal in the restaurant.

Which maybe almost justifies me bringing up my (totally off-topic) regular bone of contention (and not referring to any restaurant in particular) - that farang food in restaurants always seems to me to have a bigger mark up than Thai food.

Why for example, when fried rice chicken/pork etc is 50 baht, should American Fried rice jump up to 100 baht!! I can't believe a miserable piece of fried chicken leg justifies that big a difference.

And why for example, when eggs are ten a penny and bacon about 75 baht for a small packet or 120 baht for a large packet, should one have to pay 150 -180 baht and upwards for English/American breakfasts!! I don't believe tomatoes are that expensive!!

Sorry, excuse my diversion off-topic.

I too think that had Nong's priced it's ribs at 75 baht at the outset, everyone would have cheerfully said, - "Great Value". It is more a case of when you see someone put the price up later, it tends to irritate (and maybe more so if you know the price of the raw materials).

[rjb]

You asked, "why"? This is Thailand and all foreigners are rich don't you know. Is it possible that farang involvment in a restaurant (or other business) feels the need to price according to a higher standard and profit level? Then there is the old axim that you get what you pay for. For example, go to Steve's or Irish Clock then go to Maya or another Thai place, crowded, noisey and a few other less than desirable characteristics. Or the one that says there is a sucker born every minute.

[Doc]

Basically, what it all boils down to is that if one truly likes the food and ambience, they will pay what is being asked by the proprietor.

The proprietor needs to determine if he/she wishes to deal with quantity - to keep prices lower - or just a select few to justify keeping the prices higher. I leave "quality" out of this equation because quality is a subjective term which will have different meanings to different people.

Will I sit and eat what I consider to be "low average" ribs at 60 Baht in a restaurant that isn't air conditioned? Possibly - unless I truly don't like the fare. Howerver, at 75 Baht for "low average" ribs - I will opt for something else, at a higher price for the air conditioned comfort. Eating and sweating at the same time is not all that appealing to me.

Ultimately, the profit level will be determined and dictated by the consumer. No customers ='s no profit. Few customers ='s lower profits. Raise the prices so that they are not commensurate with the product ='s lower or no profits. Simple economics.

[valentine]

You asked, "why"? This is Thailand and all foreigners are rich don't you know. Is it possible that farang involvment in a restaurant (or other business) feels the need to price according to a higher standard and profit level? Then there is the old axim that you get what you pay for. For example, go to Steve's or Irish Clock then go to Maya or another Thai place, crowded, noisey and a few other less than desirable characteristics. Or the one that says there is a sucker born every minute.

Regardless of price I like Maya actually. They serve very good food , with attentive waiters and they let me drink my own malt whiskey, but best of all in a totally smoke free enviroment.The noise is all part of the ambience, far preferable to that created by a few old gits hogging the bar while discussing the issues of the day, which invariably means their moaning.

[Doc]

The noise is all part of the ambience, far preferable to that created by a few old gits hogging the bar while discussing the issues of the day, which invariably means their moaning.

Well said... =D> =D> =D>

[BKKSTAN]

[quote="valentine"]Just for info. My wife bought a rack of ribs in Nong Wua Sor market this morning, 50baht a kilo.

I never insinuate, straight to the point me.[/quote] Now marinate them,cook them serve them!What is your estimate of a fair price for that kilo of ribs?

I ocassionally eat at a Thai noodle resturant that puts about 4 knuckles of short ribs in the soup,25 baht,I order an extra plate of short ribs,I get about an estimated quarter to a third of a kilo for another 50 baht!I think 75 baht is a reasonable price for the 1/2 kilo served at Nongs!The point made earlier about the raise versus an initial price is right on!

Still have not heard the price of the margaritas!

[valentine]

Been out somewhere Stan? I have already said 150bht a kilo is fair to me. The only problem, if there is a problem is that they were initially priced too low as my previous posting said. Sorry can;t help you with the margaritas

[jingjai]

Let me weigh in here, as a self-proclaimed BBQ expert (I was born and raised in Kansas City, MO ).

The night of the member's meeting the ribs were excellent. Plenty of meat on them. Not falling-off-the-bone, but well cooked. The sauce (which is always my complaint about most BBQ - hate the too sweet ketsupy kind ) was slightly sweet but had a nice peppery tang that was just spicy enough to make you want to keep chewing on the bones after the meat was gone. I agree I would like more fries, but only so I could use them to soak the rest of the sauce. Great sauce Eddie! =D>

Napkins? I used them, but being a BBQ afficianado I also happily licked my fingers. As I told the other members present:

"Good BBQ is like good sex - if you don't have to take a shower afterward, it wasn't very good."

So now they're 75 baht instead of 60? I'd gladly pay over 100 baht for the same serving (don't tell Eddie I said that).

Looking forward to jetdoc's next BBQ attack so I can see if they are consistently as delicious as the first visit. =D>

I just got back from eating at Nong's Ribs. I thought the kilo of ribs was good value for money. I substituted Onion Rings for Fries, and they were just like I like them, battered. I thought the ribs and sauce were very good, sauce tangy & peppery as VicVegas said. In fact, I wll say that the ribs at Nongs were as good, if not better than any I've eaten in Thailand. That includes Cafe New Orleans in Pattaya where rib dinners go for 400 baht a pop.
The person I was with had one of the pasta dishes, which I tried, and thought very good and good value for money.
Total damage for 1 kilo of ribs w/onion rings, order of pasta, and two leo's: 300baht. Other menu items are fairly priced.
I think the prices are in alignment with other farang establishments,
ie: fish & chips City Lodge, 150 baht, cottage pie Irish Clock, 150 baht, saurbraten Dieter's, 140 baht, cheeseburger w/fries, Harry's, 120baht, etc.,etc.
Eddie and Nong were great host's. I will return.

[beer monkey]

anyone in doubt just go back to the first post and have a look at Lee's photos the quality and presentation(inc the other dishes) and amount of ribs look bang on the money to me @75 big ones lol , i have been drooling over this thread since it started the posts have been great in there description (more pic's please !!)and i am sure i can almost smell them in my mind,everyones entitled to there own opinion and nothing like a lively thread also, looking forward to more reports on this place and to me trying the ribs,hope the owners of Nongs read this and maybe pick up some tips if they think they are needed for a little "fine tuning".

[Doc]

Looks and presentation are a lot different that meeting the expectations of a person's pallette. To each their own...

[beer monkey]

Looks and presentation are a lot different that meeting the expectations of a person's pallette. To each their own...

well i hope my pallette will be satisfied what ever colour the food is.
and agreed ... each to their own.

[laphanphon]

that they were initially priced too low as my previous posting said

forget the price increase if it mentally effects you, just consider the original price as an introductory/promotional price for your first couple visits and now the stardard price is in effect.

[Pakawala]

I must concur, the ribs at Nong's are terrific. The TW and I dropped by this PM for dinner. Eddie was an excellent host, Nong was a very gracious hostess and the ribs were beyond compare with anything I've eaten in Isan. Will DEFINITELY be going back. Plan to pass this info on to all my golfing buddies as a great place to stop after an early morning round on the links course...

[farang]

dont forget to tell our mate `Woody` ,im sure he will love it there...

[Prenders88]

Why do they call him Woody?