Will the EU succeed or fail?

[Lone Star]

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From December, but an excellent read.

Interview with The Voice of Europe

Geert Wilders: “In 2018 we’ve seen the rise of the people’s movement in several European countries and this is only the beginning”

-What does Christmas mean for you?

It used to be all about the festive season. But since the elites decided it was a great idea to import a terrorist ideology, Christmas is overshadowed by the Islamic hunting season.

So, on the one hand Christmas is about Western joy for life and harmony, but on the other hand it’s about Islamic-inspired individuals who hate us and cherish death more than life, resulting in a constant threat of a terrorist attack. I can not think of a better wish for Christmas: remove Islam from our Western societies.

-Which ghost from Scrooge would you like to send to EU Commission President Jean Claude Juncker: The Ghost of Christmas past, present or future (and why)?

The ghost of yet to come, of the future. Scrooge feels sorrow at past memories. He feels remorse for having treated people badly. I don’t expect Mr. Juncker to be capable of having such feelings. Because then he would have changed his ways by now.

But maybe, when he sees what his personal future will be like, all alone, empty inside and detested by everyone, maybe just for selfish reasons, he will finally take the well-being of the people into consideration.

-What is the most hopeful change you’ve seen in 2018?

Scrooge had a journey to renewal and I believe the Western world is on such a journey as well. Citizens are becoming more and more aware of the need to stand up for themselves and for their children and grandchildren.

In 2018 we’ve seen the rise of the people’s movement in several European countries. And this is only the beginning.

Wilders is forever persecuted for his stance. His fight against the globalist left has been courageous.

[Lone Star]

Marine Le Pen Interview

Great personal admiration for Le Pen. She is correct about the immigration issue in the EU. It is not Left vs Right. It is Globalists vs Patriots.

[Lone Star]

Unhappiness in France among the People. Unhappiness in Portugal among the leadership. Unhappiness in the UK among everyone. Unhappiness in Hungary among the leadership. Unhappiness in Italy among the leadership. Unhappiness in Poland among the leadership. Spain moving away from globalism. German economy listing. Most economies in the EU are flat.

If the UK has the courage to leave and thrive as an independent nation, it will only be a matter of time before the EU collapses. If the UK stays with one leg in the EU dumpster fire, they'll be throwing money down a rat hole that will only allow the EU to limp along a bit longer.

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Orban Says Hungary Rejects Multiculturalism For The Sake Of It

Source: I Pulled the Thread of Lies, and Everything Unravelled

Hungary's Prime Minister, Viktor Orbán, is fighting on the front line against mass migration and does not mince his words regarding the damage that it is doing to Europe.

Orbán was interviewed recently and had strong statements regarding his battles with the EU.

“What outrages our opponents the most is the fact that in our Constitution we have written that Hungary has Christian roots; that here there is no place for multiculturalism; that a child has the right to a mother and a father; and that our nation has the right to defend its borders – which are also the borders of the European Union.”

Orbán predicts a split in the EU and a potential break over this mass immigration issue.

“If… they force us to accept the UN’s migration compact or the decisions of the European Commission, thereby aligning us with their permissive Western policy, disintegration cannot be ruled out.”

Western countries in the EU, mostly Germany and France, have criticized Hungary's border policy. They also criticize the prime minister for his calling out George Soros and his globalist role in all of it. Soros eventually relocated some of his NGOs to Germany, where it will be protected from criticism.

Seems there are brigadiers in the EU Parliament. They have sought to silence and expel the Hungarian prime minister's party from their body. As a result of these calls for expulsion, Orbán has been courted by allies to join them. Austria, Poland and Italy are three countries that have extended a hand and are also unhappy with the EU.

With so much pushback from individual countries against the EU, and the economic issues that face them all right now, it will soon be every man for himself.

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Merkel Let In Thousands of War Criminal Migrants

Source: Bild

The report was issued by the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF). It claims that over the past five years, the German government allowed thousands for war criminals to enter the country. That number is near 5,000 (many from Syria and Iraq). Their records indicate that they were subject to investigation for violating international law (war crimes and crimes against humanity), but were not vetted. Less than 200 were checked out.

Officials in the German government said that the migrants were not ignored, but tagged for further investigation and prosecution.

Tagged for five years????? I would consider that ignoring ...

There have been claims that ISIS has used the migration to get their members into the EU.

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Germany misses NATO commitment target

Source: AFP

What does it say when one of the wealthiest EU countries can't prioritize defending itself in a treaty agreement?

Letting down all the allies.

[yartims]

when the lisbon treaty kicks in they'lbe doubly unhappy.. especialy brits who will have to change over to the euro just like sheeple...

[papafarang]

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Germany misses NATO commitment target

Source: AFP

What does it say when one of the wealthiest EU countries can't prioritize defending itself in a treaty agreement?

Letting down all the allies.

defending itself from who ? treaty agreement ? The American government are not good at keeping treaties , trump has shown the way forward when it comes to agreements , just drop them if it's not in the national interest, good on Germany

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German Government Cuts Economic Growth Forecast For 2019

Source: Associated Press

The economic forecast for Germany is not good. Economic advisors cut the growth forecast in HALF to 0.8%.

German carmakers have shouldered some of the blame, but they may be shouldering even more. With Merkel's failure to keep pace with NATO agreements, there could be an added import tariff added to German automobiles shipped to the US. It's not just US-China trade talks that could be having an effect on the German economy.

Merkel continues to plow ahead with the natural gas pipeline plan with Russia, and it looks more and more like she is betting against a Trump re-election in 2020. If Trump is re-elected, she'll be sorry.

[saint]

I doubt she will be alone !!!!!

[jackspratt]

I doubt she will be alone !!!!!

[yartims]

germany and france have been taking the pi55 for a long time dumping cars and wine in the US at nice prices

[yartims]

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/16/70373269 ... 3177794245

The European Union has largely tolerated Hungary's nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban, despite his government's crackdown on civil society and virulently anti-migrant rhetoric.

Then came the billboards depicting two elderly men who appear to be cackling. One is the president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker. The other is Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros, who Orban loyalists falsely claim is plotting to flood Europe with Muslim migrants.

"You have the right to know what Brussels is planning," the billboard reads.

"It's shocking that such a ludicrous conspiracy theory has reached the mainstream," European Commission spokesman Margaritis Schinas told reporters last month.

Juncker is a prominent member of the European People's Party, which represents conservative EU parties in the European Parliament, including Orban's Fidesz. He has targeted Orban as "the origin of fake news." The European People's Party is expected to make a decision in the next few days about what to do with Fidesz. Several top officials in the European group want to expel their Hungarian partners.

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So all of a sudden Soros does not want to flood Europe with immigrants. What planet are you on? His 'Open Society ', organisation is funding people both in UK and USA who want NO borders and if someone starts to speak out against them, they try to ban the whistle blowers..

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As Brexit remains in limbo, Yale's Stephen Roach says the 'imperfect' EU may not survive

Source: CNBC

The EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU, but the EU acts -- as all elitists act -- like they don't need the UK. It's hilarious to watch.

As U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May presses on to take Britain out of the European Union, one leading economist raised questions about the viability of the single political and economic bloc.

"You have to wonder about the future of the European Union itself ... this is an imperfect union and the survivability of it is, I think, a serious question," Stephen Roach, a senior fellow at Yale University, told CNBC's Sri Jegarajah on Friday.

Even before Brexit came about, the EU faced multiple challenges over the last decade, said Roach, who's a former chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia. Those challenges include a sovereign debt crisis in Greece and a standoff with Italian leaders over the country's spending plans.

And with the U.K. — one of the largest European economies — planning to leave the bloc, it remains to be seen whether the EU has the ability to withstand more pressure coming from member states while still reeling from the shocks of the global financial crisis, said Roach.

If the UK politicians finally act on the Will of The People and leaves the EU, it's not a matter of IF the EU fails, but when.

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And what will be the signs of failure? Other countries leaving the EU? It's possible some departures, such as the more fascist countries, might leave the EU stronger. Perhaps it's just got too big or is trying to do too much.

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Daft question really, fail in what way ? by what measure ? The EU will just continue ever expanding ,you can check out anytime but you can never leave , as they say.
GDP: $19.1 trillion (nominal; 2019); $23.0 trillion
GDP per capita: $38,370 (nominal; 2018); $43,...
GDP growth: 2.4% (2017)

[Lone Star]

so anyway back to the question . will the EU fail ? simple it has, one country is trying to leave that's failure.

Some folks just can't stay consistent from one month to the next. Quite paradoxical. Cognitive dissonance comes to mind.

[papafarang]

so anyway back to the question . will the EU fail ? simple it has, one country is trying to leave that's failure.

Some folks just can't stay consistent from one month to the next. Quite paradoxical. Cognitive dissonance comes to mind.

yes maybe it has failed for the British, but the EU is still expanding so for Europeans not a failure.
"Some folks just can't stay consistent from one month to the next" accepting unseen changes and adapting to the situation and the outcome has nothing to do with being consistent, the whole Brexit has no consistency, the fact that circumstances have changed and it looks like we can't leave means the EU has succeeded ..paradoxical , just a new analysis based on current information. even at this point no one can predict an outcome. but anyway good your using a thread to discuss me rather than the subject. How does it feel to be head cheerleader in my fan club

[GT93]

Stop it papafarang. You're making be jealous. I like cheer-leading. =D>

Many EU countries are in the top ten of the global happiness index yet again:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eu ... 8df051c447

The EU STEADY WINNING