Finally Some One with a Pair of Balls

[Lone Star]

The Chinese will use this 400 billion line of credit to calm Iran down.. That's a lot of dough.. Probably the Mullah's acting out was in hope of something like this, along with the 15 billion dollar line of credit from France. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... 381337468a

Good article, Dave.

I'm wondering if China is thinking that there could be a similar result to what they experienced with Venezuela -- a country steeped in totalitarian government and very few exercises in good judgment. They had to abandon their petroleum investment with Venezuela.

I did notice that their billions in investment with Iran are over a period of 25 years. It's more on average per year than France's entire offer of $15 billion. I'm sure the Chinese Communists have set some boundaries for themselves that will tell them their limit and when to pull the plug on their investment if Iranian judgment continues to be poor.

Right now, Iran and China need each other, but history tells me that it won't always be that way. I fully expect Iran to continue to be reckless and bald faced liars. They'll probably eventually ruin this "deal" with China.

This information about France was interesting:

France will either fall in line, get shamed for financing Iran to the tune of billions or watch as its private sector companies face the threat of sanctions-related fines.

French bank BNP Paribas was fined around $9 billion for breaching Iran sanctions a few years back.

French energy giant Total has around $5 billion invested in Iran and has been on pause since Trump reinstituted sanctions in 2018.

Thanks for posting that.

[pipoz4444]

The Chinese will use this 400 billion line of credit to calm Iran down.. That's a lot of dough.. Probably the Mullah's acting out was in hope of something like this, along with the 15 billion dollar line of credit from France. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... 381337468a

You just have to wonder about the French. Offering to extend a "Line of Credit" to Iran. Shame on them

Wherever there is a Franc/Dollar to be made they will go or readily sell Military hardware to. The Macron Government has no morals

In hindsight the US and Others, should have letter the Germans keep France

pipoz4444

[Domat]

Wherever there is a Franc/Dollar to be made they will go or readily sell Military hardware to. The Macron Government has no moral

But it's OK when the US sells weapon to the Saudi to bomb children in Yemen.

[Lone Star]

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The US has added additional sanctions on Iran as ordered by Trump.

These increased sanctions come at the expense of the Central Bank of Iran (CBI), the National Development Fund of Iran (NDF), and Etemad Tejarate Pars Co. under its counterterrorism authority. The additional sanctions represent the highest level of sanctions ever imposed on any country.

Steven Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary:

“Treasury’s action targets a crucial funding mechanism that the Iranian regime uses to support its terrorist network, including the Qods Force, Hizballah, and other militants that spread terror and destabilize the region."

[Doodoo]

"The additional sanctions represent the highest level of sanctions ever imposed on any country."

There cant be many sanctions left to impose. Exactly what are these sanctions and which ones are left? We are never told all we get is SANCTIONS are being Imposed"

[saint]

The Chinese must be loving this .
More sanctions , more business for them .

[Lone Star]

Iran Shoots Down Strategic US RQ-4 GlobalHawk Drone
- Is Ready For War
- Puts "Maximum Pressure" On Trump!
- Bring it on!

Drone arrived in Qatar only five days ago. The incident is another piece of evidence that Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign against Iran now works against him.

It does no longer matter what Trump wants. Iran has achieved escalation dominance. It can cause a myriad of incidents that force Trump to react. He can either launch a hot war and thereby risk his reelection bid, or he can cut back on the sanctions that hurt the Iranian people. If he does not do either, more pinpricks will follow and will over time become more costly.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/i ... rump-.html

I had forgotten what started this thread.

MoonOfAlabama.org . . . their calculations were a bit off. Probably because they're playing GET TRUMP. Another emotional investment.

[pipoz4444]

Wherever there is a Franc/Dollar to be made they will go or readily sell Military hardware to. The Macron Government has no moral

But it's OK when the US sells weapon to the Saudi to bomb children in Yemen.

It a big difference, with Iran. Iran is aiming much higher than a conventional weapon.

A conventional weapon, (Bomb) may kill 50-100, buy a nuclear weapon, well that is in a different league all together. Just wait until one of them land in your back yard. With a line of credit of 15 Billion, you can by a lot of specialized equipment and knowledge, on the World market, especially from N Korea, Pakistan, India, etc.

And by the way, the British, the European Union and the Russian, all sell conventional weapons, planes and other military equipment, to Saudi, and at the same time sell them to other countries in the region, such as Egypt, Qatar, Kuwait. So why split hairs over who's weapons/bombs/planes/tanks/missiles, are being used where.

You may as well look at where Saudi bought the planes from, to drop the bombs in Yemen??, and point the finger at that country

Ultimately it is the End User that determines where he drops the bombs and or how he uses the weapon's that he buys from a World Market of Supply. What he doesn't buy/get from one country, he will surely by from another, when he has the money to spend. Many countries have been engaged in arms sales throughout the world, for the past 100 Years So what is new about today?

If you are looking to ban the sale of arms through-out the World, you will need another, 100 plus years on a good day. It might sound like an ideal objective, but it ain't going to in your lifetime

pipoz444

[Lone Star]

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US troops deployed to Saudi Arabia and UAE for defense purposes.

[Domat]

But you where writing about moral in weapon deals.

A lot more than half of the Saudi Combat Aircraft are from the US.

Iran has no Nukes at the moment they stopped the program until the the orange trouble maker pulled out of the agreement.
I don't feel saver whit this lunatic Trump on the trigger.

[Giggle]

But you felt OK with Bobo, the Drone Ranger, wiping out wedding parties and funerals. Get a grip.

[jackspratt]

But you felt OK with Bobo, the Drone Ranger, wiping out wedding parties and funerals. Get a grip.

Kinda like what the Saudis are doing at the moment in Yemen - with all those combat aircraft Domat mentioned.

Time moves on Giggly, get with the current program.

Plus I don't believe Obama ever mentioned using nukes, unlike the Bloated Orange Bullshiitter, who has done so recently in reference to Iran.

[GT93]

Really weird as he was happy to have diet cokes with the Taliban at Camp David around the 9-11 anniversary. That meeting would have lived in infamy.

[saint]

How do you know he was happy ?

[pipoz4444]

Really weird as he was happy to have diet cokes with the Taliban at Camp David around the 9-11 anniversary. That meeting would have lived in infamy.

Can't see your point?

I can remember another US President welcoming Yasser Arafat to Camp David . Pretty sure it was Bill, in between getting BJ's from Monica in the Oval Office

pipoz444

[AlexO]

Totally amused why the fruit of convicts loins who live some 12000 Kms away in the land of Meth are so authorative on USA politics. Aus and the land of the Hakka are great places. Stay out of a system that only offers Trump or Hillary to the people.

[Lone Star]

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The E3 -- UK, Germany and France -- announce from the UN in a joint statement that Iran is responsible for the attack on Saudi Arabia.

The E3 also stated that in any new deal with Iran, there must be three additional components:
1. Iran's behavior in the region
2. Peaceful nuclear energy
3. Ballistic missile production

[Lone Star]

Can't see your point?

I can remember another US President welcoming Yasser Arafat to Camp David . Pretty sure it was Bill, in between getting BJ's from Monica in the Oval Office

pipoz444

Correct.

If it wasn't for double standards, the GET TRUMP Mob would have no standards at all.

[Lone Star]

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Excellent op-ed in Bloomberg on Euros coddling Iran.

This was written before the E3 took the big step of formally blaming Iran for the attack on Saudi Arabia.

Still excellent.

In recent weeks, as Iran has lashed out at its neighbors, rekindled its nuclear ambitions, violently disrupted regional commerce, and issued not-so-veiled threats to the world, Europe has done little more than mollify and coddle the regime. That needs to stop: The stability of the global economy, as well as of the Middle East, may depend on it.

The Europeans are right to fear a conflagration in the Gulf region, but they should by now recognize that it is Iran, and not the U.S., that is most likely to spark a war. Bolton’s removal from the White House should clarify their thinking. However deep their distaste for Trump, they can’t ignore his repeated offers to negotiate. Nor can they deny that Iran’s actions are endangering the global economy.

If the prospect of standing behind Trump is too much for Europe’s leaders to stomach, the next best thing would be to get out of the way. They should communicate to the regime that all efforts to save the agreement are suspended until Iran ends its aggression against its neighbors and resumes compliance with the nuclear deal. There must be no more talk of lines of credit and sanctions waivers. Instead, they should press Iran to take up Trump’s offer of negotiations — with European mediation, if that helps — or face the consequences without German, French and British support.

Bravo!

NOTE: And Bloomberg is not a Trump ally.

[vlad]

If she had any Nancy Pelosi sticking it in to Trump.