OOPS: Boris Johnson drops herd immunity approach

[RLTrader]

Boris Johnson’s decision to drop its herd immunity approach to battling the coronavirus.

UK herd immunity strategy fails (Video)

https://theduran.com/uk-herd-immunity-s ... ils-video/

[GT93]

Without looking at your link, at least Johnson had the balls to change course when the evidence against herd immunity mounted.

[Sabai]

Too late for the UK now. Out of control. Watch this space in 2 weeks because of his idiotic decision.

Feel sorry for England, too little too late.

[Giggle]

What an idiotic, harebrained scheme. Only in the UK could a politician come up with something so crazy and have people go along with it. I suppose people deserve the leaders they get.

[jackspratt]

What an idiotic, harebrained scheme. Only in the UK could a politician come up with something so crazy and have people go along with it. I suppose people deserve the leaders they get.

Totally agree, giggly.

And even more so if, god forbid, they are so thick, hick and hypocritical to re-elect them.

[stattointhailand]

as each day passes both Bojo & Trump just keep proving to one and all that they dont have the ability to lead a buffalo to the field let alone a country.

Trumps speech (yesterday?) that they have now identified a new chemical and they hope it will soon be available was followed less than 2 mins later by a health official saying that they were just about to start to do tests on a new chemical in the same way as dozens of other possible chemicals that may be beneficial. What was Trump doing whilst the specialist was telling everyone that what he had just said was a blatant lie .......... standing 3 feet behind and staring up at the sky (Im not even sure by the look of him if he actually understood that the official was contradicting everything he had just said)

[AlexO]

What an idiotic, harebrained scheme. Only in the UK could a politician come up with something so crazy and have people go along with it. I suppose people deserve the leaders they get.

Totally agree, giggly.

And even more so if, god forbid, they are so thick, hick and hypocritical to re-elect them.

I really thought Giggly had gone to a deserved long term respite from his sordid life but unfortunately no, he comes back with a classic that it was Boris not his scientific advisors that came up with the herd immunization recommendations. Then he is sent words of agreement from Prattyboy who also makes disparaging remarks about UK voters. This is from someone who comes from a Country who change their Political Leaders more often than he probably changes his underwear.

[noosard]

Trump at his best double talk

“Leadership. Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.”

That was Donald Trump, reality TV host, back in 2013.

“I don’t take responsibility at all.”

That was Donald Trump, President of the United States, this month.

[GT93]

What an idiotic, harebrained scheme. Only in the UK could a politician come up with something so crazy and have people go along with it. I suppose people deserve the leaders they get.

Totally agree, giggly.

And even more so if, god forbid, they are so thick, hick and hypocritical to re-elect them.

I really thought Giggly had gone to a deserved long term respite from his sordid life but unfortunately no, he comes back with a classic that it was Boris not his scientific advisors that came up with the herd immunization recommendations. Then he is sent words of agreement from Prattyboy who also makes disparaging remarks about UK voters. This is from someone who comes from a Country who change their Political Leaders more often than he probably changes his underwear.

Boris Johnson has a truly terrible international reputation. For Buddha's sake, pre-politics, he was a newspaper columnist. He was paid to make shxt up. He's still widely recognized outside (and inside) the UK as a make it upper.

[jackspratt]

What an idiotic, harebrained scheme. Only in the UK could a politician come up with something so crazy and have people go along with it. I suppose people deserve the leaders they get.

Totally agree, giggly.

And even more so if, god forbid, they are so thick, hick and hypocritical to re-elect them.

I really thought Giggly had gone to a deserved long term respite from his sordid life but unfortunately no, he comes back with a classic that it was Boris not his scientific advisors that came up with the herd immunization recommendations. Then he is sent words of agreement from Prattyboy who also makes disparaging remarks about UK voters. This is from someone who comes from a Country who change their Political Leaders more often than he probably changes his underwear.

You, unsuprisingly, missed the point.

Most people here, including giggly, would have understood.

[Khun Paul]

Any American who belittles the British prime Minister is out of order, while we do it may seem have a chap not really connected , but is LISTENING to the advice and acting accordingly unlike POTUS who belittles the advice and shows everyone that he lies almost on a daily basis, but then to coin a phrase form a member of his Government, the Man is a Moron, ably helped and assisted by the ignorant Republican Senators who failed to see that he had done anything wrong thereby letting the American people down, the people who they are entrusted to protect. P:arty lines destroyed democracy and it still going on. At least whether you like it or not the British PM has an outstanding majority , a far greater one that POTUS has ever had or will ever have.

[Doodoo]

KP
You started off saying NO American could belittle the PM but in the same breath you yourself are criticizing the POTUS by calling him a Moron and a Liar
You really have to be careful in your entries here

[stattointhailand]

I'm sure the latest Trump polls show that he has a PERFECT majority, better than any other US president and that "people" say that its better than anyone else in the world.

Not sure who this "people" he keeps quoting is, but whoever he is, he has got a pretty good record of getting each and every comment 180 deg from the truth

KP, I'm not sure how you can slate Trump for lying and then support Bojo, who has made a career out of making things up and telling "porkies" .......... in between changing sides/opinions whenever it suits him best

[Giggle]

Tell us more, KP, about how we should sit idly by listening to you berate America and Americans day after day, but not be allowed to criticize British idiots.

Please, I'd like to hear more of that reasoning.

[Khun Paul]

KP
You started off saying NO American could belittle the PM but in the same breath you yourself are criticizing the POTUS by calling him a Moron and a Liar
You really have to be careful in your entries here

As the AMERICAN PRESS called him a MORON< I too am entitled to quote them, as for LYING again American Press and various reports have stated his is lying, I am just agreeing with them.

So your point is what, defending the indefensible again.

[AlexO]

What an idiotic, harebrained scheme. Only in the UK could a politician come up with something so crazy and have people go along with it. I suppose people deserve the leaders they get.

Totally agree, giggly.

And even more so if, god forbid, they are so thick, hick and hypocritical to re-elect them.

I really thought Giggly had gone to a deserved long term respite from his sordid life but unfortunately no, he comes back with a classic that it was Boris not his scientific advisors that came up with the herd immunization recommendations. Then he is sent words of agreement from Prattyboy who also makes disparaging remarks about UK voters. This is from someone who comes from a Country who change their Political Leaders more often than he probably changes his underwear.

Boris Johnson has a truly terrible international reputation. For Buddha's sake, pre-politics, he was a newspaper columnist. He was paid to make shxt up. He's still widely recognized outside (and inside) the UK as a make it upper.

His truely terrible international reputation is with who?? A few left wing loonies? examples please preferably less than 10 years old. Widely recognised inside the UK by who? the massive majority who voted in the last General Election to give him the Prime Ministers job. You and your mates really are trying to beat a broken drum.

[Khun Paul]

Tell us more, KP, about how we should sit idly by listening to you berate America and Americans day after day, but not be allowed to criticize British idiots.

Please, I'd like to hear more of that reasoning.

I just report the American press you bring it down to personal reasons and in any event the whole world know he is a Moron read this
© Provided by The Guardian Photograph: Al Drago/EPA
The one welcome casualty of the coronavirus pandemic ought to be the culture wars. If it achieves nothing else, the health crisis has revealed the emptiness of leaders who manufacture nationalist fears to maintain their power. Boris Johnson now looks as out of place as a clown in a morgue. Donald Trump looks as out of luck as a cornered conman.
Nothing is inevitable, however. To see how a pandemic can be used to ensure that supplies of politically useful rage keep flowing, look at how US Republicans are constructing a cover story. They have plenty to cover up. The gaps in safety nets that the virus is revealing everywhere gape in the United States. That the world’s richest country somehow never got round to providing universal healthcare is bad enough, but the incompetence of Trump’s White House and the wider US right has been close to criminal.
“We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine,” Trump bragged on 22 January. He has never managed to rise from that low point. All Americans have had is bluff and bombast intended to make the virus seem a minor nuisance, and then, as reality dawned on the president’s narrow mind, to ensure blame went to anyone but himself. He was not alone. Fox News, which acts as a front for his administration and as the respectable face of crackpot politics, has been engaged in an equally clanking gearshift. At the beginning of March, liberal criticisms of Trump’s inability to see a national emergency when it was staring him in the face were “just another attempt to impeach the president”, according to one presenter. At worst, the virus “could be the flu”, added a second. Not even so bad a flu, opined a third. The U-turn in mid-March was so fast you could smell the burning rubber on the road. Overnight, coronavirus became a “health crisis” and an “incredibly dangerous and contagious virus”.

© Photograph: Al Drago/EPA Donald Trump answers questions at one of his coronavirus task force news conferences in Washington.
The honourable course, of admitting a mistake and expressing determination to do better, was unavailable
How do you recover from an error of such magnitude? The honourable course, of admitting a mistake and expressing a determination to do better in future, was unavailable – and not only because fighting in a culture war means never having to say you’re sorry. Honesty might be fatal to Trump’s hopes of re-election.
Instead, an escape attempt began with the right-wing deploying the language policing it so often deplores on the politically correct left. Trump is now insisting that coronavirus should not be called coronavirus but “Chinese virus”.
The side benefits he could expect to bank ought to be obvious. Trump could count on US liberals playing his game by accusing him of being an anti-Chinese racist. Liberals duly walked into the trap and Trump’s supporters were transported from the fear of living in an unprepared country with a demonstrably inadequate leader to the familiar ground of culture war. They could mutter: “Oh, these people call everything they don’t like racist; they’ll be saying it’s racist to call Chinese food ‘Chinese’ next.”
Trump could also count on the academically minded, saying scientists might once have named the coronavirus the “China virus” or “Wuhan virus” – as the Spanish flu and Ebola were named after the places where they were thought to originate. But the World Health Organization decided in 2015 that it wanted medically useful names. Trump’s supporters could shrug aside the WHO’s fancy talk and say that everyone knows the outbreak started because of China’s appalling treatment of animals, and the Chinese Communist party then added the suppression of news to its list of crimes by hiding the outbreak’s existence.
However much critics may want to say Trump is a semi-senile fool – and I do – it is worth remembering that he remains a brilliant political operator, who has destroyed all opponents within and without the Republican party who made the mistake of underestimating him. In this instance his cleverness, and the major benefit he expects to enjoy, lies in shifting the blame for his folly on to the Chinese.
If the virus is China's fault, then domestic critics of Trump's administration are traitors aiding Chinese communists
It does not stop there. If the virus is China’s fault, then domestic critics of his administration are traitors aiding the Chinese communists. You think I’m exaggerating? On 16 March, Trump tweeted a link to an article on the paranoid Federalist site. The author, one Madeline Osburn, was explicit. The Atlantic, a serious American magazine, had joined “China’s anti-American disinformation efforts”, she said. Osburn, who would have had a glittering career on the People’s Daily if she had been born Chinese, cited the work of The Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum, without appearing to know that Applebaum has written two devastating histories of the atrocities of communism. Describing how the pandemic has exposed America’s weaknesses in general, and its president’s weaknesses in particular, made Applebaum a useful idiot at best and traitor at worst, Osburn said.

[AlexO]

Tell us more, KP, about how we should sit idly by listening to you berate America and Americans day after day, but not be allowed to criticize British idiots.

Please, I'd like to hear more of that reasoning.

I just report the American press you bring it down to personal reasons and in any event the whole world know he is a Moron read this
© Provided by The Guardian Photograph: Al Drago/EPA
The one welcome casualty of the coronavirus pandemic ought to be the culture wars. If it achieves nothing else, the health crisis has revealed the emptiness of leaders who manufacture nationalist fears to maintain their power. Boris Johnson now looks as out of place as a clown in a morgue. Donald Trump looks as out of luck as a cornered conman.
Nothing is inevitable, however. To see how a pandemic can be used to ensure that supplies of politically useful rage keep flowing, look at how US Republicans are constructing a cover story. They have plenty to cover up. The gaps in safety nets that the virus is revealing everywhere gape in the United States. That the world’s richest country somehow never got round to providing universal healthcare is bad enough, but the incompetence of Trump’s White House and the wider US right has been close to criminal.

KP, you are playing into laughing boys hands when you copy excerpts from a far left liberal US rag that kids on it is wholely funded by public subscription.
If it was Corbyn in charge in the UK it would read 'doin well under extremely trying and unprecedented circumstances' instead of "now looks as out of place as a clown in a morgue" The writers and columnists of this peice of wastepaper would rather emasculate themselves than say anything good about Trump and the Republican Party. They are to my mind the same kind of snowflake "only my view is correct" human detrius that occupy's desks at their UK sister title. The same ones who called for a day of National Celebration when Maggie Thatcher was laid to rest.

[jackspratt]

They are to my mind the same kind of snowflake "only my view is correct" human detrius that occupy's desks at their UK sister title. The same ones who called for a day of National Celebration when Maggie Thatcher was laid to rest.

Are you suggesting that the Guardian (UK) called for such a celebration.

If so, I am calling bullshiit.

But you may wish to prove me wrong.

While you are there, can you provide some support for your statement that (about the Guardian):

......... that kids on it is wholely funded by public subscription.

[stattointhailand]

Alex, the mask is supposed to be over your nose and mouth NOT YOUR EYES