America coming apart at the seams?

[newtovillagelife]

You are now well and truly proven wrong

I was 100% correct on the day of posting.

Don't have a crystal ball, nor did I promise one

Many thousands, is still a tiny percentage .

[cjd01]

Why don't you debate what is happening now cjd01 instead of bringing up politics 4 years ago or bringing up Hilary ?? its about Agent Orange we are debating about in 2020 not in 2016.

Well Vlad
I don't know if you bothered to read my reply it was in response to GT93's post concerning Trump not accepting and leaving the Office if he loses in my opinion it was a valid response. However feel free to take your intellectual pot shot at me, you have of course every right to dictate what I should or shouldn't post it is after all your personal forum.

[vlad]

Here you go again thinking were all against you or thinking certain members own the forum you can do better than that if you want to debate fine argue your points fine but don't harp on about the past or use the blame card when you don't like what your hearing. There's no need to name call that's juvenile which belongs in the class room.

[Whistler]

You were 100% wrong on the day of posting. We just did not have the growing figures as they were not available, nor had the protests run their course.

However, your post was not about figures, you wanted to downplay the importance and depth of anger, to portray these protests as insignificant. You failed absolutely to understand the depth of feeling and importance of the protests.

You wanted to believe it was a tiny, tiny fraction so you could dismiss views that opposed yours.

Otherwise you would not have made the initial post.

[mickojak]

you wanted to downplay the importance and depth of anger,

How do you know what i wanted or did not want?
You can't read my mind.

However, your post was not about figures

Yes it was.
Purely figures

You wanted to believe it was a tiny, tiny fraction

I didn't "want" to believe it, it "was" a tiny, tiny fraction, (at the time of my post)

Otherwise you would not have made the initial post.

Once again, trying to read my mind.

[cjd01]

Why don't you debate what is happening now cjd01 instead of bringing up politics 4 years ago or bringing up Hilary ?? its about Agent Orange we are debating about in 2020 not in 2016.

Happy to participate in any genuine debate
Sorry for my inappropriate earlier reply.
went and read some of your previous posts and note other than your Agent Orange agree with a number of your thoughts especially on Brexit and the looters (protesters)
Unfortunately don't feel genuine debate is possible in this arena.

[mickojak]

Some people need to lighten up a bit

[mickojak]

More assumptions?
Is that all you got?

[Whistler]

More assumptions?
Is that all you got?

no.

But it's all thats needed

[Whistler]

Never will now bow down to racists or idiots. The days of the right wing neocons are now at an end, a new era is here as decent people will not put up with crap anymore

[Whistler]

Glalt you are an American, what do you know about IQ's when you elected a president with an IQ of a gnat

[Whistler]

Read his posts

[Whistler]

Glalt hates liberal thinkers

[vincemunday]

Oh stop it.

[Whistler]

Stop what, observing?

[Khun Paul]

The hyperbole emanating from the US and other countries over the current situation is a tad disturbing, especially when as now many SENIOR Republicans have come out against the a sitting President.
His reactions may be far-reaching and painful to watch, as for stepping down gracefully , after Four years, I think it is impossible for him to be graceful, it is not in his make-up to be polite in defeat, nor I doubt will he go quietly. He may well try to force a re-election, but the question remains WILL the P:ublic allow that to happen. Will it spurn more problems , even more than now . Will Congress and the Senate ( who may well be no longer Republican led ) also allow that to happen . World-wide we have seen the way Allies and friends treated with disdain by this president , plus the GLEE of China and Russia over what they see is the biggest Clusterf**k in American Politics and Foreign Policy all because of the Man-child occupying that Seat .

What next everyone is asking , I think watch this space is the only way forward . But that is logical and Trump does not have a logical brain almost akin to the Govt of Thailand, shoots from the hip and bugger the consequences.

[joudon]

I would not write Trump off that quickly.The 'silent majority' same as in UK will be put off by lawless rioting and looting.
As in UK ,the liberal elite have been buoyed by anti Governments action and rhetoric but will that translate into votes. I very much doubt it.

[Doodoo]

Something a LEADER is prepared to do rather than blame others. Who oh who should be learning from this example?

DWIGHT EISENHOWER WAS FULLY PREPARED TO ACCEPT BLAME IF THINGS WENT BADLY ON D-DAY
While Hitler was partying in the Alps, Eisenhower was drafting a bleak message. The success of Operation Overlord was by no means guaranteed, and if something went horribly awry, Ike might have had no choice but to order a full retreat. So he preemptively wrote a brief statement that he intended to release if the invasion fell apart. “Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops,” it said. “My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”

[joudon]

Good post and good point.

When we in UK voted for Brexit, and voters in US voted for Trump I can still recall some of the comments.

"They didn't know what they were voting for"

"These people are not educated enough to vote"

"They ( the voters) are not qualified to make such big decisions "

[cjd01]

KP
Whilst it may be the popular view that protests (riots, looting, arson and destroying of others property and business) should be the cause for an elected President or Prime Minister to resign they'll be falling like dominoes.
There is an election due and perhaps only perhaps the American people should cast their judgement on Trump.
If he is not reelected so be it The People have spoken should it be any other way?