None of this is ever going to be a problem until you anger the wrong person. Or in the case of the farm jealouy from nieghbors if that happen you could be in very deep trouble.
Friend I know in Roi Et has a beef operation and hired his wifes family to do the work, sometimes they do the work sometimes not, sometimes they just sale his feed at reduced prices to other people. Does he need to be involved to protect his investment, sounds like it to me.
Someone in the village reported him to the immigration Police and they showed up with a lot of questions. The village headman bailed him out with he good man, this time. who knows what is going to happen next time. This guy is a saint compared to me, helps anybody in that village anytime he can.
Remember if you have the retirement visa it means just that no work, not even vounteer teaching. It is very easy for the right people to make big problems here no matter what your intentions are good or bad.
I don't know about the rest of you here, but I have three years of learning and paying dues tied up here now. Not to mention a good amount of money. Can I start again somewhere else, heck yes.
Would I jeopordize what I have so I don't have to pay someone to mow the lawn, no way. Play by thier rules and it is much harder from them to nail you to the wall, it can still be done but at least they will have to work for it.
Laws in many ways are totally redicules, in my mind work is something I'm paid to do or derive a profit from, not here. Anybody remember the volunteers that had to stop helping on Tsunami because they didn't have work permits.
You need work permits then get them, or watch someone else mow the lawn. If you can't get them then you are prohibited from that activity. Doesn't matter what we think of that, never forget it is a privilage to be in this country not a right. That privlage can be withdrawn.
We accepted the laws when we dicided to stay here. I don't think they are going to change them unless there is a clear advantage to them.
You know the day to day living here is great.
The real shame to me is that I don't believe Thailand has any idea of what expats add to the country. They only see the money from tourist. I'm willing to take a wild guess and say that Udon probably gets many 100's millions added to the community each and every year by Expats. I'm just one and I spend at least one million every year, in the country and the majority right here in Udon.
I beleive they are really missing the boat in not recognizing this, remember those dreaded baby boomers and retirement, thats us folks, we are here and we are doing it. Belpeve me there are a lot of us in this old world and more will come in our footsteps if we have good things to say, they won't if we don't.
But it just like the family selling of the guys feed at a loss, for some change in thier pockets, no problem he has money. Forget that even if he has money he too has limits, and since he has money he knows that. Where will those people find that money he paid them on that operation, if it fails. The answer working in Bangkok not on that farm. Well some law don't take into consideratiom that there may be some folk who want to mow that lawn and be left alone in peace.
Will I jump up and scream about this, no I knew about that when I settled here. If I just have to mow that lawn then I will move where I can. When I do I will take my little million a year somewhere esle.
Chang_paarp wrote:businessman wrote:Marcus....does this mean that I am legally banned from helping TG on the farm ??
Technically,yes.Labouring is restricted to Thai nationals.You will just have to sit around and watch others work.
There was a farang arrested once for putting up a mirror in a gym he owned.You really have to piss off a police officer to get arrested for such a small thing.Also owners of bars are technically not allowed behind them.Must sit out front and do nothing.
I was under the impression that if you had a work permit that listed "your bar" as the place of work, you were allowed to work in the business. I suspect that given that the work permit has a defined address on it, you are not allowed to go to the market to buy stuff, this is a labourer's job.
As to the farm it depends on who owns it and if the correct work permit is issued.
Just remember if you get busted, get your other half to go the relevent authority to explain in complete and full detail why you were doing the job in the fist place (She may have to explain it to them several times.) and they may just fill out all the paperwork as your punnishment.
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