The Coverup of the Century | New documentary on how the CCP covered up the coronavirus outbreak |NTD

[Whistler]

NTD Television ...... aka The Falun Gong Network.

I have no particular opinion about Falun Gong, but I am going to take anything the write/say/stream about China with a huge dose of salt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Tang_ ... Television

Amen Jack.

It would be great if people did not make posts from unreliable sources, so we don't get this sort of nonsense polluting cyberspace

Now that is funny coming from you

Noosard, if you can find any references I have posted from a non mainstream source, please point it out and I will willingly edit it. Go do some checking and I think you will be shown to be way off the mark.

[glalt]

The only defense is to slow the spread to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Eventually we will learn that we can't hide from this virus. The vast majority of us will eventually be exposed and our bodies will develop antibodies to protect us from the worst affects. As has been experienced, the best medical minds will fail to find an effective vaccine. We should know that because the common cold and flu are still here despite the huge efforts to find a vaccine.

[Whistler]

The only defense is to slow the spread to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Eventually we will learn that we can't hide from this virus. The vast majority of us will eventually be exposed and our bodies will develop antibodies to protect us from the worst affects. As has been experienced, the best medical minds will fail to find an effective vaccine. We should know that because the common cold and flu are still here despite the huge efforts to find a vaccine.

Three significant holes in this argument.

1. There is ample evidence that the production of antibodies has not been found in many people who have had the virus, there is also significant evidence that even those who do, lose those antibodies within a few months, this article may be of interest.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/make-no ... 55aem.html

2. "the best medical minds will fail to find an effective vaccine" Pure conjecture on your part, many, many viruses have been cured in recent years with new vaccines, we do not know yet if all attempts to combat COVID 19 will succeed or fail.

3. There is a flu vaccine, it is redeveloped every year to cope with new strains.

[noosard]

It would be great if people did not make posts from unreliable sources, so we don't get this sort of nonsense polluting cyberspace
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Now that is funny coming from you
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Noosard, if you can find any references I have posted from a non mainstream source, please point it out and I will willingly edit it. Go do some checking and I think you will be shown to be way off the mark.
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Some mainstream sources also have nonsense polluting articles
but I was referring to some of your previous sources you have used

[jackspratt]

^ I guess I've been misconstruing that user name. I always thought it was simply Jack's Pratt, ie. the pratt that belongs to Jack.

Hopefully you are not representative of the Scottish education system.

[jackspratt]

Of course money talks and people sell their souls to make money.

You are perfectly correct there glalt ......... but they are not the sort of person you would want running your government, are they.

Are you just babbling or are you implying something?

The implication is pretty clear, glalt - don't you recognise your own president?

[noosard]

Over the last few weeks, I have been talking to scores of organisations in Australia and NZ, government agencies in Thailand and a few around IL. All have explained to me that they are back to normal.

So this is my point. The ones that took Covid head on are ready to rock 'n roll, the ones with ideological blinkers on are in deep doggy doo. The new normal is not the old normal, but the new normal is manageable.

Here is classic
No reference who these orginisations are
What is back to normal
And a lot has changed for both NZ and Australia in the 9 days since you posted

NZ had the health minister resign due to failures in the quarantine measures
Victoria now in 6 week lockdown for similar reasons

[jackspratt]

Jackspratt, l think you have deliberately left off 2 important letters off your monogram. It should read jack’s-prattle. Prattle, to talk at length in a foolish or inconsequential way. No offence intended.

mon·o·gram
/ˈmänəˌɡram/

a motif of two or more letters, typically a person's initials, usually interwoven or otherwise combined in a decorative design, used as a logo or to identify a personal possession.

[Khun Paul]

Whistler your points, although well made are erroneous insofar as the Virus has not been around long enough for any accurate scientific facts to be proven or unproven.

Antibodies are not by themselves the be all and end all of combating this virus, only a small part and with the vaccine again , no-one knows, what may appear to be succesful now may in the coming months need to be re-evaluated as the virus like Flu change yearly.

The players are still out and the answer is by no means certain . The flu does have a vaccine but only for a specific strain, should an older strain come sweeping back, we are all in for shock, however over the past century, HERD Immunity has grown to the extent that it will not be so dangerous as before .

People still get colds and flu, some bad, but most minor reactions , some get nothing ever, it is those people that should be studied as their genes, in built immunity will be a reason why they never get infected with Coronaviruses of any description , we or most of us in our 60' to mid 80's may never see a reliable vaccine for this particular strain ever, considering that since 1918 we only have a Flu vaccine for this years particular strain , older strains etc, there is NO Vaccine available until they realise it .

The First world countries in my estimation have a better chance as routinely children and many adults are vaccinated frequently against a myriad of diseases and illnesses we may come across, I remember while in the Military I was like a pin cushion on occasions going to far flung places on the globe.

This general mass vaccination does I am sure assist your body to fight off other illnesses, however due to scare and bad reporting and erroneous press reporting many have not had the vaccinations, and now we see a resurgence of things like Measles and other previously supposed eradication of some. Polio for example we have still not eradicated it .

It will take at least one to two years to perfect any sort of vaccine and that may only make the infection less harmful to the body , like the Flu vaccine .

As I said previously we have to learn to live with it , there is no Golden Bullet, no 100% answer to this problem , slowly but surely mankind will chip away at its shell and the virus will be consigned to one that will be unpleasant to catch but no longer life threatening, not in my lifetime I am sure, I may be wrong, hopefully. But I am not hedging my bets.

[Whistler]

Over the last few weeks, I have been talking to scores of organisations in Australia and NZ, government agencies in Thailand and a few around IL. All have explained to me that they are back to normal.

So this is my point. The ones that took Covid head on are ready to rock 'n roll, the ones with ideological blinkers on are in deep doggy doo. The new normal is not the old normal, but the new normal is manageable.

Here is classic
No reference who these orginisations are
What is back to normal
And a lot has changed for both NZ and Australia in the 9 days since you posted

NZ had the health minister resign due to failures in the quarantine measures
Victoria now in 6 week lockdown for similar reasons

my wording 'if you can find any references I have posted from a non mainstream source'. You obviously cannot because my statement was accurate.

So you pivot to this nonsense!

Do you seriously expect me to name businesses that I am engaged with on this site? No sensible business person would divulge that information.

[noosard]

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my wording 'if you can find any references I have posted from a non mainstream source'. You obviously cannot because my statement was accurate.

So you pivot to this nonsense!

Do you seriously expect me to name businesses that I am engaged with on this site? No sensible business person would divulge that information.
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You have used multiple times stuff from fb which would be classed as unreliable sources
as youtube from where this thread started

[Whistler]

please point out these posts, happy to correct any from unreliable sources. From memory the only fb posts I may have referred to were from people already known to my family, not just any old post.

[Whistler]

Cat got ya tongue Noosard?

[Whistler]

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[Whistler]

my wording 'if you can find any references I have posted from a non mainstream source'. You obviously cannot because my statement was accurate.

So you pivot to this nonsense!

Do you seriously expect me to name businesses that I am engaged with on this site? No sensible business person would divulge that information.
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You have used multiple times stuff from fb which would be classed as unreliable sources
as youtube from where this thread started
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noosard,

You made this post but are unable to provide any justification, do you wish to withdraw your comments or just go and put your hands over your eyes and claim nobody can see you?

[noosard]

go check your own postings yes you have used fb and u tube

[tamada]

^^ You mean like you covering YOUR ears after nobody died of Covid-19 in Nongbua Lamphu as you reported.

Still waiting for the "corroboration" BTW.

Pull your head in, your credibility's shot all to buggery already.

[papafarang]

Talking about cover up's. All the ranting about one doctor in China blowing whistles ,what about american government sacking captain crozier for telling the world his sailors were dying. He soon got punished .cover ups every where now days.

[GT93]

And Trump is now sometimes covering his gob. This cover up is progress:

[Whistler]

go check your own postings yes you have used fb and u tube

All hat and no cattle. Frankly Youtube is not a source, it is a medium for posting videos. Those videos have a source which is the real issue, ditto Facebook.

From your response, it appears you have looked and found nothing