The source of the coronvirus??

[Whistler]

another nail in the coffin of the evidence free conspiracy brigade

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/03 ... -wuhan-lab

Nothing of course will change their minds because they only read articles that support their immovable beliefs, despite any evidence to the contrary.

[Whistler]

Surprised you answered the Whizzer
He is the barking mad one
The probability of it originating from their research centre is pretty high

based on my response to Rick (who is in fact a scientist, and a really nice guy) what makes you resile from responding.

[noosard]

So why did you call Rick barking mad

[tamada]

So why did you call Rick barking mad

Do you know rick?

[Whistler]

Of course I know Rick, having a gentle rib at a mate

[noosard]

So why did you call Rick barking mad

Do you know rick?

Yes have met Rick a few times
Know he lives on the wet side of town

[pipoz4444]

The WHO Team and no Roger Daltrey, didn't get an invite. and Keith Moon wasn't available

Re. World Health Organization inspectors visited a laboratory in China's Wuhan city on Wednesday

Just some questions, maybe some answers and observations.

Q1. One year after the Event: Being cynical, I would say it must have been hard to get a Flight?

Q2. How many in WHO Team: So far have read the names, Led by Peter Ben Embarek + Peter Daszak + Thea Fischer (Danish) . dw.com report it has specialist from 10 different countries, so must be at least 7 more members.

Q3. How Long are they staying to Investigate: Two weeks according to Reuters.

Q4. Where will they Visit: The team plans to visit hospitals, laboratories and markets. Field visits will include the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Huanan market, Wuhan CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention) laboratory,” the WHO said in a tweet. – Be interesting to see what evidence they find if anything, now days, although I suspect that the Huanan Wet Market is looking very picturesque.

Q5. Will the eventual Report be released to the Public without Redaction?: Time will tell


REUTERS.COM https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN29X0GN

(A) Dr. Fischer told Reuters by phone from Wuhan.
“But it is important to remember that the success of this mission and origin-tracing is 100% depending on access to the relevant sources. No matter how competent we are, how hard we work and how many stones we try to turn, this can only be possible with the support from China,” she said. How true !!

(B) Another quote from the Reuters Article:
Hours before the WHO annnounced their planned visits, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus tweeted: “Thanks, Chinese Health Minister Ma Xiaowei, for a frank discussion on the #COVID19 virus origins mission.” GOOD OLD TEDROS IS STILL SUCKING C..CK!

The WHO has sought to manage expectations. NOT UNEXPECTED

“There are no guarantees of answers,” WHO emergencies chief Mike Ryan told reporters this month. MAYBE JUST PREEMPTING THE OUTCOME OF THE FORTHCOMING REPORT

pipoz4444

[Whistler]

Surprised you answered the Whizzer
He is the barking mad one
The probability of it originating from their research centre is pretty high

on what basis? In your opinion or backed up by scientific and government sources? Pretty high?

As far as I know, every intelligence outfit in the world has come to a different conclusion. That would not be 100% conclusive, but would classify this possibility as very low.

[noosard]

Nice junket trip to China
Hope they have time for the wall and 3 gorges dam

[pipoz4444]

Nice junket trip to China
Hope they have time for the wall and 3 gorges dam

Slightly Off Topic: From some recent reports, I would not be going to close to the 3 Gorges Dam, unless I had a Submarine

https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/three-gor ... operators/

Not quite sure what "Deformed Slightly" actually means or entails when one is talking about a Dam Structure

Extract from Asian Times: Three Gorges Dam deformed but safe, say operators

In a rare revelation, Beijing has admitted that its 2.4-kilometer Three Gorges Dam spanning the Yangtze River in Hubei province “deformed slightly” after record flooding.

The official Xinhua News Agency quoted the operator of the the world’s largest hydroelectric gravity dam as saying that some nonstructural, peripheral parts of the dam had buckled………………………The deformation occurred last Saturday when the flood from western provinces including Sichuan and Chongqing along the upper reaches of the Yangtze River peaked at a record-setting 61,000 cubic meters per second, according to China Three Gorges Corporation, a state-owned enterprise that manages the dam and the sprawling power plant underneath it.

The company noted that parts of the dam had “deformed slightly,” displacing some external structures, and seepage into the main outlet walls had also been reported throughout the 18 hours on Saturday and Sunday when water was discharged though its outlets.

pipoz4444

[noosard]

Surprised you answered the Whizzer
He is the barking mad one
The probability of it originating from their research centre is pretty high

on what basis? In your opinion or backed up by scientific and government sources? Pretty high?

As far as I know, every intelligence outfit in the world has come to a different conclusion. That would not be 100% conclusive, but would classify this possibility as very low.

every intelligence outfit in the world has come to a different conclusion.
That would be a lot of different outcomes cause every is an extremely large
Where my pretty high is 50 50 it did or it didnt cant get more right than that

And WHO investigators on there Chinese junket have admitted most likely wont determine the origins
So seems money well spent

[Whistler]

Another piece of the puzzle of interest.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/wuhan ... 570b4.html

[pipoz4444]

Listen to what the Australian Team Member (Prof Dominic Dwyer) has to say

If the Patient that Pro DD interviewed, was in fact Patent No 1 and if he was told the truth by that person, then it would appear that Patient No1, did not visit the Wuhan Market. Leaving another unanswered question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZEfTyvUhDU

pipoz4444

[Whistler]

Listen to what the Australian Team Member (Prof Dominic Dwyer) has to say

If the Patient that Pro DD interviewed, was in fact Patent No 1 and if he was told the truth by that person, then it would appear that Patient No1, did not visit the Wuhan Market. Leaving another unanswered question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZEfTyvUhDU

pipoz4444

I read that too, it had been puzzling the team, however a public statement was given without a lot of detail, that they had found a link between that patient and the bat caves that are a considerable distance away from Wuhan.

[tamada]

^ Nothing new in that 60 Minutes puff piece. Absolutely bugger all.

[Khun Paul]

It seems despite all the rhetoric and nay-saying that in truth the actual proof of how and why will never be known . Mother nature is a wondrous entity and how viruses mutate is not certain at anytime. The Jump from Animals to Humans is basically guesswork with a lot of luck in the outcome. True there are instances where how is known, but the why is educating guesswork as in this situation, we think we know but truthfully we do not.
Despite a couple of centuries fighting illnesses, we are still just scratching the surface, we have almost eradicated Polio, but it is still out there , other diseases although vaccinations have existed for nearly 200 years for some of them , are still out there . We have just learnt to live with them like this particular Virus, we just have to learn to live with it , over time we will not be so affected as the vaccinations will decrease the severity of it. It transmissability will lessen hopefully.
Welcome to the 21st century and in truth history tells us that in 1918 we had a similar virus, we combated and lived with that, still evolving and mutating , millions still die from it but it has become acceptable, this willeventually go the same way, an acceptable loss to humankind, how we live will change to accomodate this virus.

[vlad]

KP We knew about the bubonic Plague in the 13th Century and even now in the 21st Century we have the odd cases still around the World,Virus's will always be with us such as the Flu virus mumps and rubella, but we control them they don't control us. I think we have Eradicated polio and other nasty s but we have the vaccine for these id they surface. Covid will be the same we will eventually have a vaccine to treat this and like the flu vaccine we will tweak it if it mutates but we will defeat it in the end. We have to understand no one knew what this virus was until last year.

[Drunk Monkey]

It seems despite all the rhetoric and nay-saying that in truth the actual proof of how and why will never be known . Mother nature is a wondrous entity and how viruses mutate is not certain at anytime. The Jump from Animals to Humans is basically guesswork with a lot of luck in the outcome. True there are instances where how is known, but the why is educating guesswork as in this situation, we think we know but truthfully we do not.
Despite a couple of centuries fighting illnesses, we are still just scratching the surface, we have almost eradicated Polio, but it is still out there , other diseases although vaccinations have existed for nearly 200 years for some of them , are still out there . We have just learnt to live with them like this particular Virus, we just have to learn to live with it , over time we will not be so affected as the vaccinations will decrease the severity of it. It transmissability will lessen hopefully.
Welcome to the 21st century and in truth history tells us that in 1918 we had a similar virus, we combated and lived with that, still evolving and mutating , millions still die from it but it has become acceptable, this willeventually go the same way, an acceptable loss to humankind, how we live will change to accomodate this virus.

Thanks for cheering me up.KP ...did you ever consider a position with the Samaritans ???

Dm.

[Whistler]

KP We knew about the bubonic Plague in the 13th Century and even now in the 21st Century we have the odd cases still around the World,Virus's will always be with us such as the Flu virus mumps and rubella, but we control them they don't control us. I think we have Eradicated polio and other nasty s but we have the vaccine for these id they surface. Covid will be the same we will eventually have a vaccine to treat this and like the flu vaccine we will tweak it if it mutates but we will defeat it in the end. We have to understand no one knew what this virus was until last year.

Agree Vlad,

We have the capacity to lesson the impact of these viruses, the rapid development of vaccines to Covid 19 is an example of this, the virus mutates, we respond, the virus mutates but it looks promising that have a handle on this.

What we don't need is to take a virus and turn it onto a political or racist issue. It is a medical issue and should be treated as such. There is nothing to be gained by using Covid as a basis for racist bashing, nationalistic bashing, political bashing etc.

The last 12 months have been an example of treating this virus with monumental stupidity. Denying its significance, blaming it as fake news, ignoring sensible avoidance methods. For the life of me, I cannot believe the sheer stupidity of not taking a commonsense approach to the worst pandemic we have seen for over 100 years.

BS about it being real, BS about doing something simple and effective like wearing a mask. 2 million dead, yet idiots try to deny it is real and denying simple but proven effective measures to slow its progress. Idiots are more dangerous than the virus itself.

[vlad]

The WHO visiting team have been Silenced at a press conference all Journalists were not allowed to question the Scientists who gave the conference and the Team was not allowed to inspect the lab in Whuhan. The chinese are blaming bought and inported fish that spread the virus.