Miscellaneous COVID-19/Corona Virus Discussion, Questions, etc.

[Giggle]

There were 50,000 papers in the peer-reviewed literature on covid, not a single on told a doctor how to treat it. Not a single one. -- Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee

There is still virtually no discussion on treating this virus. EVERY effort is concerned with vaccination.

Why is this?

[pipoz4444]

Three Countries who have been through Delta. All different in demographics, population density and lifestyle.

The respective Delta, Start to Peak to Drop Off, humps, are similar and all relatively short periods of time. Why

UK and Spain look like less that a Month, with India slightly longer in time.

pipoz4444

[rick]

Interesting graphs, but longer than one month. UK's winter wave started in September and ended in March. Current wave started in early June and still ongoing. Of course depend on when you consider the start and finish parameters are.

[Udon Map]

There were 50,000 papers in the peer-reviewed literature on covid, not a single on told a doctor how to treat it. Not a single one. -- Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee

There is still virtually no discussion on treating this virus. EVERY effort is concerned with vaccination.

Why is this?

Because he's a well known quack pushing an anti-vaccine agenda.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... ccullough/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/h ... -name.html

[Doodoo]

Just saw this posting on Facebook
"Extremely busy at MedPark Hospital this morning as #Pfizer jabs for expats over 60 or with underlying health conditions are administered from today in Bangkok"

Has anyone in Udon area even received an appointment yet?

[jackspratt]

Nothing heard yet.

But see Parrot's latest post here: viewtopic.php?f=139&t=51347&p=623043#p623043

[Bandung_Dero]

Confirmed, just seen this posted by a moderator on Asean Now:
"Pfizer vaccinations for foreigners started at 8am today at MedPark hospital in Bangkok.
I can confirm that hundreds of foreigners have arrived at MedPark to be vaccinated with Pfizer and the process is ongoing as I type this."

[sometimewoodworker]

There is still virtually no discussion on treating this virus. EVERY effort is concerned with vaccination.
Why is this?

Do stop making statements that are downright lies.

Just because you haven’t read (I assume you do read) any of the papers discussing treatment, not to mention read any posts here that mention treatment, does not mean that they do not exist.

[Declan MacPherson]

There is still virtually no discussion on treating this virus. EVERY effort is concerned with vaccination.
Why is this?

Do stop making statements that are downright lies.

Just because you haven’t read (I assume you do read) any of the papers discussing treatment, not to mention read any posts here that mention treatment, does not mean that they do not exist.

On July 19 of this year, I posted the following in another thread:

I have had conversations with 2 doctors (1 a family friend) and one nurse (a family member) about the treatment being given to covid patients in the Udon Thani area. I asked because I have been impressed with Thailand's low fatality rate and being so much lower than the rest of the world.

All three told me that they have prescribed and administered Favipiravir. The dosage is administered based on the weight of the patient.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7467067/

There may be other treatments in other parts of Thailand or with your personal physicians, but I am not privy to that information.

With all of the issues coming to light with the vaccines (side effects, deaths, still being infected, spreading infection, etc.), gears are beginning to shift to treatments. Even the flip-flopping fraud Dr. Television is talking treatment lately. But who listens to that conflicted liar anymore?

[GT93]

Those who used to listen to Dick Farrel and want to connect back to reality.

[samsam]

There is still virtually no discussion on treating this virus. EVERY effort is concerned with vaccination.
Why is this?

Do stop making statements that are downright lies.

Just because you haven’t read (I assume you do read) any of the papers discussing treatment, not to mention read any posts here that mention treatment, does not mean that they do not exist.

On July 19 of this year, I posted the following in another thread:

I have had conversations with 2 doctors (1 a family friend) and one nurse (a family member) about the treatment being given to covid patients in the Udon Thani area. I asked because I have been impressed with Thailand's low fatality rate and being so much lower than the rest of the world.

All three told me that they have prescribed and administered Favipiravir. The dosage is administered based on the weight of the patient.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7467067/

There may be other treatments in other parts of Thailand or with your personal physicians, but I am not privy to that information.

With all of the issues coming to light with the vaccines (side effects, deaths, still being infected, spreading infection, etc.), gears are beginning to shift to treatments. Even the flip-flopping fraud Dr. Television is talking treatment lately. But who listens to that conflicted liar anymore?

So you hade a conversation With two doctors? Thailand has abouth 40000 of them and abouth 300000 nurses!Favipiravir does not cure covid but it helps with breathing! Still the hospitals are full to the exess of 90 % unvaccinated people not only in Thailand but around the globe, check out the numbers in the Us, states with low vaccination rates are crowded with unvaccinated people! The hospitals has to pospone a lot of sceduled treatments to treat anti waxers

[Declan MacPherson]

So you hade a conversation With two doctors? Thailand has abouth 40000 of them and abouth 300000 nurses!Favipiravir does not cure covid but it helps with breathing! Still the hospitals are full to the exess of 90 % unvaccinated people not only in Thailand but around the globe, check out the numbers in the Us, states with low vaccination rates are crowded with unvaccinated people! The hospitals has to pospone a lot of sceduled treatments to treat anti waxers

I never said it was a cure. News flash: There are no cures for respiratory viruses with animal reservoirs.

The natural history of all respiratory viruses is to circulate all year long and attack weak immune systems usually in the winter months. Or they become deranged through vaccines. It is why we still have influenza and the common cold and other viruses with animal reservoirs. Vaccines do not even cure the virus or eradicate it. There is only herd immunity and treatment. Favipiravir is a treatment FOR BREATHING.

People have to ask themselves why this vaccine is experiencing a breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viruses don't have any history of that.

You must have missed this part:

There may be other treatments in other parts of Thailand or with your personal physicians, but I am not privy to that information.

Your reading not so good. Like some others.

[anefarious1]

I never said it was a cure. News flash: There are no cures for respiratory viruses with animal reservoirs.

The natural history of all respiratory viruses is to circulate all year long and attack weak immune systems usually in the winter months. Or they become deranged through vaccines. It is why we still have influenza and the common cold and other viruses with animal reservoirs. Vaccines do not even cure the virus or eradicate it. There is only herd immunity and treatment. Favipiravir is a treatment FOR BREATHING.

People have to ask themselves why this vaccine is experiencing a breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viruses don't have any history of that.

These are not your thoughts but hey you sound smart playing them off as your own! But, for sure, the "250% less" thing was all you!

[samsam]

So you hade a conversation With two doctors? Thailand has abouth 40000 of them and abouth 300000 nurses!Favipiravir does not cure covid but it helps with breathing! Still the hospitals are full to the exess of 90 % unvaccinated people not only in Thailand but around the globe, check out the numbers in the Us, states with low vaccination rates are crowded with unvaccinated people! The hospitals has to pospone a lot of sceduled treatments to treat anti waxers

I never said it was a cure. News flash: There are no cures for respiratory viruses with animal reservoirs.

The natural history of all respiratory viruses is to circulate all year long and attack weak immune systems usually in the winter months. Or they become deranged through vaccines. It is why we still have influenza and the common cold and other viruses with animal reservoirs. Vaccines do not even cure the virus or eradicate it. There is only herd immunity and treatment. Favipiravir is a treatment FOR BREATHING.

People have to ask themselves why this vaccine is experiencing a breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viruses don't have any history of that.

You must have missed this part:

There may be other treatments in other parts of Thailand or with your personal physicians, but I am not privy to that information.

Your reading not so good. Like some others.

What abouth the part of hospitals full of unvaccinated people taking up space and resourses in country's with full access to vaccine? I did not specify Thailand in my reply but you" must have missed that part"And why the breakout in the middle of the Summer? Guess it has to do with the strenght of the virus and the pathetic anti waxers!

[tamada]

There were 50,000 papers in the peer-reviewed literature on covid, not a single on told a doctor how to treat it. Not a single one. -- Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee

There is still virtually no discussion on treating this virus. EVERY effort is concerned with vaccination.

Why is this?

Is there a 'treatment' for the most common and long-standing coronavirus called influenza?

What is the most prevalent form of influenza prophylaxis?

[Khun Paul]

We forget in our rush to sound intelligent, important and brilliantly educated that a VIRUS CANNOT be killed , or eradicated or even Removed from the PLANET.

All we can and will do so for millennia to come, is treat the symptoms only . Plus taking whatever action that is required to give our biological entities time to work out the virus and find ways biologically to mitigate the attack on ourselves . The fact that this virus attacks the weak, the people with compromised immune symptoms, or those with other medical problems could be a way Mother Nature is saying enough these people need to go. The animal kingdom has a way of weeding out the weak the useless and the ill, survival of the fittest, animals understand that, only we as a species spend enormous sums and expertise keeping humans alive that could not survive on their own , believing that we are doing good.

Over years we may become immune to this virus only to be attacked by another one or a deadly variant or not.

[bluejets]

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2020 ... -extinct

[sometimewoodworker]

We forget in our rush to sound intelligent, important and brilliantly educated that a VIRUS CANNOT be killed , or eradicated or even Removed from the PLANET.

wrong Though there are strategic deposits in laboratories there is 1 virus that though it had probably been active for over 3,000 years has been eradicated from the human population. It has been effectively killed it could be “ Removed from the PLANET.”

So when you state ‘facts’ please make sure they are true, by missing out an important one you make everything you say suspect and untrustworthy.

It is quite likely that, like the vast majority of other viral infections, in time the immunity to covid19 through recovered infection and immunisation will reach a point were it will not be worth the effort to eradicate it if that is economically possible for this virus.

Could it be eradicated? Almost certainly yes.
Could it be eradicated for a price in money and species extinction that will be accepted? Almost certainly no.

[Khun Paul]

Any VIRUS which is deemed top be DORMANT or NOT Transmissable is not eradicated , IT IS just NOT Active .
a WHOLE DIFFERENCE .
I am giving and educated opinion, where did I say factually , I did not , as you are quotoing possible facts I am offering and educated opinion. If you are unable to tell the difference perhaps you should stick to B/S allow those who actually think to make educated guesses, and that with some science and a smattering of facts is all it is in reality.

[sometimewoodworker]

Any VIRUS which is deemed top be DORMANT or NOT Transmissable is not eradicated , IT IS just NOT Active .
a WHOLE DIFFERENCE .
I am giving and educated opinion, where did I say factually , I did not , as you are quotoing possible facts I am offering and educated opinion. If you are unable to tell the difference perhaps you should stick to B/S allow those who actually think to make educated guesses, and that with some science and a smattering of facts is all it is in reality.

Still wrong and wriggling to try to escape your faulty post.
The virus I mentioned is not dormant, it is eradicated in the human population.

You may have intended to say that it was your opinion but you did not. You stated it as fact. It is not fact.
Do please learn that you do not need to use the word factually or fact to state facts.

You claim that it is an educated opinion.

You should learn the wording to make that clear and the difference between stating opinion and fact