Miscellaneous COVID-19/Corona Virus Discussion, Questions, etc.

[Khun Paul]

Some evening reading for you KP
Google has alot more

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnew ... ons-376763

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... ar-AAM3NTi

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai ... qualifying

Thanks however NOT living in Bangkok or recieving the Chinese rubbish then none of that applies, but thanks anyway. Most of the Foreigners I know received double Phizer vaccinations.

[Teacher Dan]

Some evening reading for you KP
Google has alot more

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnew ... ons-376763

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... ar-AAM3NTi

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai ... qualifying

Thanks however NOT living in Bangkok or recieving the Chinese rubbish then none of that applies, but thanks anyway. Most of the Foreigners I know received double Phizer vaccinations.

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family. When a vaccine gets approved because the Head of their Board of Directors is on the FDA Approval Board despite the fact that by their own data released via FOIA request shows over 1200 deaths--that's 3 times what the Swine Flu vaccine had before it was pulled from the shelf--you know something is wrong. Throw in the myocarditis problems in young people and there was no way my sons were interested in that garbage--good luck! We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/1 ... t-90-days/

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/08/dr-p ... zu8owk-bi4

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-ins ... iVpa-_i9hd

[Declan MacPherson]

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family. When a vaccine gets approved because the Head of their Board of Directors is on the FDA Approval Board despite the fact that by their own data released via FOIA request shows over 1200 deaths--that's 3 times what the Swine Flu vaccine had before it was pulled from the shelf--you know something is wrong. Throw in the myocarditis problems in young people and there was no way my sons were interested in that garbage--good luck! We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/1 ... t-90-days/

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/08/dr-p ... zu8owk-bi4

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-ins ... iVpa-_i9hd

And now, the FDA wants to hide everything for 75 years.

https://thepalmierireport.com/fda-wants ... -vax-data/
FDA Wants 75 Years To Produce Pfizer Vax Data

The FDA has asked a judge to give them 75 years to produce data related to the Pfizer request.

This is up 20 years from the prior request by Pfizer.

Good ole Brandon Regime transparency at work again.

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[Khun Paul]

Some evening reading for you KP
Google has alot more

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnew ... ons-376763

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... ar-AAM3NTi

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai ... qualifying

Thanks however NOT living in Bangkok or recieving the Chinese rubbish then none of that applies, but thanks anyway. Most of the Foreigners I know received double Phizer vaccinations.

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family. When a vaccine gets approved because the Head of their Board of Directors is on the FDA Approval Board despite the fact that by their own data released via FOIA request shows over 1200 deaths--that's 3 times what the Swine Flu vaccine had before it was pulled from the shelf--you know something is wrong. Throw in the myocarditis problems in young people and there was no way my sons were interested in that garbage--good luck! We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/1 ... t-90-days/

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/08/dr-p ... zu8owk-bi4

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-ins ... iVpa-_i9hd

Well as per your usual rants, most I know in Udon got their Phizer vaccinations at the Uni site curtesy of the Thai Govt. If you wish to believe all the rubbish hype be my guest .
I was simply asking for a Booster availability not a discussion of the rights and wrongs of as particular Vaccine. To each their own , trust me I checked with medical experts of which you are certainly NOT one before agreeing to this
vaccine.

[Doodoo]

First off Jr your numbers are slightly off
"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021."

12000 or 6000 it doesnt matter the number is miniscule as compared to the possbile number of deaths that would have happened had we not had the Vaccine.

As for you stating that most Foreigners opted for Sinopharm I sure would be interested in seeing the numbers. Reason I am asking is that I am unaware of atleast ONE Foreigner who receive it here in Thailand

[jackspratt]

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family......

..... We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

You must not know many foreigners, as most in Udon province - virtually all I know - opted for the Pfizer when it was first offered around August.

If your "entire family" consists of Thais, they had no choice, until recently, about getting Sino pharm/vac.

Good luck to them - but hopefully they will not be led through the nose by a snake-oil selling farang.

[Teacher Dan]

First off Jr your numbers are slightly off
"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021."

12000 or 6000 it doesnt matter the number is miniscule as compared to the possbile number of deaths that would have happened had we not had the Vaccine.

As for you stating that most Foreigners opted for Sinopharm I sure would be interested in seeing the numbers. Reason I am asking is that I am unaware of atleast ONE Foreigner who receive it here in Thailand

No Jr. my numbers are right and I didn't say anything about VAERS...that was the number Pfizer released in their FOIA request before they started blocking them with the courts. I know many who received it here in Thailand but since I don't drink or go to town often except church we likely aren't in the same circles.

[Teacher Dan]

Some evening reading for you KP
Google has alot more

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnew ... ons-376763

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... ar-AAM3NTi

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai ... qualifying

Thanks however NOT living in Bangkok or recieving the Chinese rubbish then none of that applies, but thanks anyway. Most of the Foreigners I know received double Phizer vaccinations.

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family. When a vaccine gets approved because the Head of their Board of Directors is on the FDA Approval Board despite the fact that by their own data released via FOIA request shows over 1200 deaths--that's 3 times what the Swine Flu vaccine had before it was pulled from the shelf--you know something is wrong. Throw in the myocarditis problems in young people and there was no way my sons were interested in that garbage--good luck! We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/1 ... t-90-days/

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/08/dr-p ... zu8owk-bi4

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-ins ... iVpa-_i9hd

Well as per your usual rants, most I know in Udon got their Phizer vaccinations at the Uni site curtesy of the Thai Govt. If you wish to believe all the rubbish hype be my guest .
I was simply asking for a Booster availability not a discussion of the rights and wrongs of as particular Vaccine. To each their own , trust me I checked with medical experts of which you are certainly NOT one before agreeing to this
vaccine.

As usual you talk about fictitious experts you have spoken to but if they were leftist doctors in the UK or America, I wouldn't put much stock in what they say, but like you said to each his own. Also any American looking to go back to the US had no choice since the US, unlike the WHO and EU, doesn't accept the Sino vaccines so of course many Americans chose to get the poison.

[Doodoo]

No data as usual
Thanks Jr

[Teacher Dan]

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family......

..... We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

You must not know many foreigners, as most in Udon province - virtually all I know - opted for the Pfizer when it was first offered around August.

If your "entire family" consists of Thais, they had no choice, until recently, about getting Sino pharm/vac.

Good luck to them - but hopefully they will not be led through the nose by a snake-oil selling farang.

No my sons are American-Thai and only my wife is Thai We had the option of the Pfizer one when the US donated it and a lot of sheeple went to get it, but my son and I did our own research and decided we trusted the traditional virus technology of the Sino vacs over the experimental mRNA technology (Pfizer and Moderna) that was never approved for human use before now because all the lab animals died when re-exposed to the virus or the 'benign virus' vaccines like AZ and J&J because of the blood clot problems and the fact that they were or are banned in many countries.

[Khun Paul]

Some evening reading for you KP
Google has alot more

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnew ... ons-376763

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/th ... ar-AAM3NTi

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thai ... qualifying

Thanks however NOT living in Bangkok or recieving the Chinese rubbish then none of that applies, but thanks anyway. Most of the Foreigners I know received double Phizer vaccinations.

You must not know many foreigners as most of the foreigners I know did NOT get the Pfizer poison including myself and my entire family. When a vaccine gets approved because the Head of their Board of Directors is on the FDA Approval Board despite the fact that by their own data released via FOIA request shows over 1200 deaths--that's 3 times what the Swine Flu vaccine had before it was pulled from the shelf--you know something is wrong. Throw in the myocarditis problems in young people and there was no way my sons were interested in that garbage--good luck! We opted for Sinopharm as did most foreigners I know.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/1 ... t-90-days/

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/08/dr-p ... zu8owk-bi4

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-ins ... iVpa-_i9hd

Well as per your usual rants, most I know in Udon got their Phizer vaccinations at the Uni site curtesy of the Thai Govt. If you wish to believe all the rubbish hype be my guest .
I was simply asking for a Booster availability not a discussion of the rights and wrongs of as particular Vaccine. To each their own , trust me I checked with medical experts of which you are certainly NOT one before agreeing to this
vaccine.

As usual you talk about fictitious experts you have spoken to but if they were leftist doctors in the UK or America, I wouldn't put much stock in what they say, but like you said to each his own. Also any American looking to go back to the US had no choice since the US, unlike the WHO and EU, doesn't accept the Sino vaccines so of course many Americans chose to get the poison.

In my personal family of over 5 Doctors ( two of which are Consultants), and other Health professionals, plus their friends, who are NOT by any stretch of the imagination leftist followed the SCIENCE, their collective YEARS of KNOWLEDGE of over 150 years will in my book far outweigh a proclaimed so-called Teacher of what , one has to ask, oh yes English !, which is far removed from the Science world that any decision taken is based purely on probably written research, Then sorry I will bow to Knowledge over and above so-called educated guesses coupled with hands on experience.

Be that as it may, I have always said vaccination is a personal choice and if you are happy with what you have received good for you. But it was interesting to note that only recently many European countries only allowed those Double vaccinated with the Chinese varieties have been allowed into their countries , based on the SCIENCE, not educated guesses.

[Teacher Dan]

In my personal family of over 5 Doctors ( two of which are Consultants), and other Health professionals, plus their friends, who are NOT by any stretch of the imagination leftist followed the SCIENCE, their collective YEARS of KNOWLEDGE of over 150 years will in my book far outweigh a proclaimed so-called Teacher of what , one has to ask, oh yes English !, which is far removed from the Science world that any decision taken is based purely on probably written research, Then sorry I will bow to Knowledge over and above so-called educated guesses coupled with hands on experience.

Be that as it may, I have always said vaccination is a personal choice and if you are happy with what you have received good for you. But it was interesting to note that only recently many European countries only allowed those Double vaccinated with the Chinese varieties have been allowed into their countries , based on the SCIENCE, not educated guesses.

To each his own and you can bow to whatever you like, but it was NOT science-based...the science is quite clear that the Pfizer vaccine is the most dangerous of all the vaccines and that is from the man who created the mRNA technology, so I'd say he knows science.

[papafarang]

does anyone know anybody that has died from any vaccine ?

[Khun Paul]

In my personal family of over 5 Doctors ( two of which are Consultants), and other Health professionals, plus their friends, who are NOT by any stretch of the imagination leftist followed the SCIENCE, their collective YEARS of KNOWLEDGE of over 150 years will in my book far outweigh a proclaimed so-called Teacher of what , one has to ask, oh yes English !, which is far removed from the Science world that any decision taken is based purely on probably written research, Then sorry I will bow to Knowledge over and above so-called educated guesses coupled with hands on experience.

Be that as it may, I have always said vaccination is a personal choice and if you are happy with what you have received good for you. But it was interesting to note that only recently many European countries only allowed those Double vaccinated with the Chinese varieties have been allowed into their countries , based on the SCIENCE, not educated guesses.

To each his own and you can bow to whatever you like, but it was NOT science-based...the science is quite clear that the Pfizer vaccine is the most dangerous of all the vaccines and that is from the man who created the mRNA technology, so I'd say he knows science.

Again that is what you read on your web-sites, that theory has been debunked so many times, however as your countrymen seem to idolise stupid theories and mis-information including No 45, then it is hardly surprising you stick to your guns. Have a nice day.

[Khun Paul]

does anyone know anybody that has died from any vaccine ?

Some people have had a severe reaction to all of the vaccines, but then if you looked at theIr Medical History it has been proven that only a minute percentage , OF THOSE PEOPLE WITH zero Medical problems have reacted negatively, the VAST majority of people onloy suffer from pain or other mild symptoms following often the SECOND vaccination only.
Deaths I am not aware of healthy NO medical condition people dying JUST from the Vaccine but then In the Developing world where ANY Vaccine for anything is difficult to acquire for anything, reporting on the Covid 19 Virus will be at best sketchy I suspect.

[Teacher Dan]

does anyone know anybody that has died from any vaccine ?

Some people have had a severe reaction to all of the vaccines, but then if you looked at theIr Medical History it has been proven that only a minute percentage , OF THOSE PEOPLE WITH zero Medical problems have reacted negatively, the VAST majority of people onloy suffer from pain or other mild symptoms following often the SECOND vaccination only.
Deaths I am not aware of healthy NO medical condition people dying JUST from the Vaccine but then In the Developing world where ANY Vaccine for anything is difficult to acquire for anything, reporting on the Covid 19 Virus will be at best sketchy I suspect.

True where they are hiding the numbers it will be sketchy but we know that Pfizer acknowledges 1200 deaths because they released it in the FOIA request and then we know that VAERS lists over 12000 and historically VAERS lowballs the number so we can bet it's actually far higher than that and considering Moderna has only about 3000 in VAERS, I would consider them the lesser of two evils by the numbers. Unfortunately the US doesn't allow Astra Zeneca or the Sino vaccines so they don't have numbers for them, but J&J is also lower in the death count like Moderna. But again we know all of those numbers are lowball numbers, not high.

[Declan MacPherson]

True where they are hiding the numbers it will be sketchy but we know that Pfizer acknowledges 1200 deaths because they released it in the FOIA request and then we know that VAERS lists over 12000 and historically VAERS lowballs the number so we can bet it's actually far higher than that and considering Moderna has only about 3000 in VAERS, I would consider them the lesser of two evils by the numbers. Unfortunately the US doesn't allow Astra Zeneca or the Sino vaccines so they don't have numbers for them, but J&J is also lower in the death count like Moderna. But again we know all of those numbers are lowball numbers, not high.

And the other issue is that they are not counting deaths within 14 days of any jab.

The number of previously healthy people dying under the risk age group has been happening everywhere.

[jackspratt]

True where they are hiding the numbers it will be sketchy but we know that Pfizer acknowledges 1200 deaths because they released it in the FOIA request ......

That seems rather high.

Perhaps you could supply a credible link for those of us who are sceptical.

[Bandung_Dero]

Can you people take this elsewhere and leave the thread as it is intended to be!
"Covid cases Udon"

[AlexO]

True where they are hiding the numbers it will be sketchy but we know that Pfizer acknowledges 1200 deaths because they released it in the FOIA request ......

That seems rather high.

Perhaps you could supply a credible link for those of us who are sceptical.

Don't agree with you very often Jack but seriously glad someone is calling out the doom merchants. Even if their figures are correct (which I doubt) what is the percentage of adverse reactions compared to the number of inoculations that have been administered by Pfizer's product.