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[stattointhailand]

Dont think your giving Liz enough credit ...... I'm sure she will manage to get something in her will that will block Charlie from taking over when she pops her clogs

[jackspratt]

I imagine that Lizzie's Last Will and Testament will be a document of wonderment and beauty - but I can't see how it will overcome the obstacle of an Act of Parliament, even if that was her wish.

https://www.royal.uk/succession

Her only hope would be to outlive Charlie - god forbid.

[stattointhailand]

Youre forgetting one very important point Jack ......... her current Prime Minister ....... no Act of Parliament/law or peoples rights are safe with him around

[GT93]

I understood Lizzie was quite comfortable with Charlie taking over. He's hardly a Donald Trump like lunatic and Charlie is already running more than half the show. I don't think Epstein's mate or the woke one will be keen to see Kxng Charles.

[Khun Paul]

What about the 'first son' (his dad Charles the Prince of Wales) who pretty much knew by the time his mid-life crisis was over, that mummy dearest wasn't letting him get anywhere near the throne. Ever.

Whatever Betty's thoughts on Charlie grabbing the big chair, once she (inevitably) joins Phil, it is not within her remit to decide who gets crowned.

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

[pepesgrill]

william seems like an unusually level-headed young fellow. maybe harry was right to bail. this
is worse than game of thrones. maze of conflict

[jackspratt]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

[Drunk Monkey]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

Comorrn Jack ..why let facts get in the way of a typical.KP post

[Khun Paul]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

Comorrn Jack ..why let facts get in the way of a typical.KP post

Thankyou DM another I am so clever man , spouting garbage.

[Khun Paul]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

Comorrn Jack ..why let facts get in the way of a typical.KP post

Thankyou DM another I am so clever man , spouting garbage.

In fact although succession is laid down it can be changed by an ACT of Parliament at the request of the queen via the P{rivy Council , so it can be changed, ,perhaps you had better look up the laws and rules before spouting any of you. It would be currently unprecendented but can be done.

[Khun Paul]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

Comorrn Jack ..why let facts get in the way of a typical.KP post

Thankyou DM another I am so clever man , spouting garbage.

In fact although succession is laid down it can be changed by an ACT of Parliament at the request of the queen via the P{rivy Council , so it can be changed, ,perhaps you had better look up the laws and rules before spouting any of you. It would be currently unprecendented but can be done.

Go back to UFES, they believe anything there

[Drunk Monkey]

My point being ..when did it last happen .. offer an example ..nit just another cut paste n run...as you normally do

[noosard]

No, the Queen does not have the authority to change the line of succession. The rules of succession were established in 1689 and 1701. James II ran from the country, so Parliament stepped in declaring that James had abdicated, which he had. They claimed the Throne was now vacant, so Parliament offered the Throne to James’ daughter and her husband, rather than his son.

This established the rule of the Sovereign goes through Parliament. Succession is determined through Parliament, and a bad monarch (not governing according to the laws set in place) could be removed by Parliament in extreme cases.

All this to say Queen Elizabeth cannot choose her successor. That is determined by birth order. The eldest son of Elizabeth is the direct heir to the Crown. Then Princess Anne was next (2nd) when she was born until her brothers, Andrew and Edward were born. They replaced her, since male heirs had precedence over females. Anne then become 4th in line to the Crown.

When Prince Charles has his two children, then William became 2nd in line to the Throne, as the line runs through the eldest male always, unless there is no male. The line would then run through the eldest female. That changed in 2011, ahead of Prince George’s birth. Males no longer jump ahead of a female in the line of succession as it applies to the children of William.

[jackspratt]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

Comorrn Jack ..why let facts get in the way of a typical.KP post

Thankyou DM another I am so clever man , spouting garbage.

In fact although succession is laid down it can be changed by an ACT of Parliament at the request of the queen via the P{rivy Council , so it can be changed, ,perhaps you had better look up the laws and rules before spouting any of you. It would be currently unprecendented but can be done.

Please read my post again.

Your opinion is fascinating, but do you have any evidence - a link for instance - that supports your earlier statement that "the monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne"?

[parrot]

A history lesson (essay) for those who didn't learn these things in school. I enjoyed watching "The Crown" though....sort of like "Dallas" on steroids......or crack.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/opin ... amily.html

[Khun Paul]

Actually it is , but that has not happened for a very long time . A reigning Monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne , but it rarely happens.

Really?

Perhaps you have some evidence to back up that nonsensical claim.

Comorrn Jack ..why let facts get in the way of a typical.KP post

Thankyou DM another I am so clever man , spouting garbage.

In fact although succession is laid down it can be changed by an ACT of Parliament at the request of the queen via the P{rivy Council , so it can be changed, ,perhaps you had better look up the laws and rules before spouting any of you. It would be currently unprecendented but can be done.

Please read my post again.

Your opinion is fascinating, but do you have any evidence - a link for instance - that supports your earlier statement that "the monarch has the authority to change the natural heir to the throne"?

OMG English 101. My opinion is based on parliamentary Fact it will require an Act to be passed and I doubt that if the Queen requests that parliament will not agree and pass the Act. Okay please put on your commonsense hat before you put your foot in it again, thankyou.
As historically ie:- in the last 200 odd years it has never happened , it is not to say it cannot but difficult . ``

[stattointhailand]

200 years ...... History ?? ...... that's barely long enough to require a repaint and springclean

[jackspratt]

OMG English 101. My opinion is based on parliamentary Fact it will require an Act to be passed .......

Thanks for clarifying that.

So it's Parliament which has the authority, and not the Queen.

And nothing to do with the Privy Council.

OK.

[Khun Paul]

OMG English 101. My opinion is based on parliamentary Fact it will require an Act to be passed .......

Thanks for clarifying that.

So it's Parliament which has the authority, and not the Queen.

And nothing to do with the Privy Council.

OK.

Not quite the Privy Council is the vehicle as it were that the Queen uses to tell parliament her reasons and choice . Parliament would no doubt do what HM wanted.

[jackspratt]

OMG English 101. My opinion is based on parliamentary Fact it will require an Act to be passed .......

Thanks for clarifying that.

So it's Parliament which has the authority, and not the Queen.

And nothing to do with the Privy Council.

OK.

Not quite the Privy Council is the vehicle as it were that the Queen uses to tell parliament her reasons and choice . Parliament would no doubt do what HM wanted.

Of course it would ...... and when she nominates her favourite, Andrew - what happens then?

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