General Discussion of UK Politics

[Earnest]

Told you before Tam, I am not a Tory. But would prefer anyone rather than that idiot mob from the opposition benches. And Statto just keeps waffling on with the lies about the benefits of staying in the EU. Change your drink or your meds you really are boring. Not one fact just rhetoric.

I can see things are getting tasty tonight. Who's the senior Mess member, is it KP? We may have to close the bar early.

Statto is from the North-East and voting for the Labour Party is in his DNA. You could stick a red rosette on a pink Poodle and that lot would vote for it. Rather like Uxbridge voting for a fat boy from Eton and Oxford.

More cake, please, Mummy!

[AlexO]

Told you before Tam, I am not a Tory. But would prefer anyone rather than that idiot mob from the opposition benches. And Statto just keeps waffling on with the lies about the benefits of staying in the EU. Change your drink or your meds you really are boring. Not one fact just rhetoric.

I can see things are getting tasty tonight. Who's the senior Mess member, is it KP? We may have to close the bar early.

Statto is from the North-East and voting for the Labour Party is in his DNA. You could stick a red rosette on a pink Poodle and that lot would vote for it. Rather like Uxbridge voting for a fat boy from Eton and Oxford.

More cake, please, Mummy!

Hear what you say Ernie but that lot on the opposition benches are so far away from the Party I used to vote for they could be aliens. A fair few people from the North East have also noticed this and that's why the present Government has such a large majority. The days of putting a monkey in a red tie and people voting for it have gone. At least north of London it has hopefully.

[tamada]

The fragility of the Tory's current large majority continues to deceive.

[stattointhailand]

Just to put the record straight .......... I was born and raised in Essex, moved to Kent, back to Essex and then to Thailand . I have never said that I was born or lived in North East. Whilst on the subject of making assumptions, I can also report that "voting Labour" is NOT in my DNA, and in fact I have always voted for the Candidate that best meets my expectations rather than the "Party" rosette he is wearing, as his job is to represent the best interests of his constituents and NOT what his "party leader" and their whipps want

[tamada]

So the Met effectively puts the lid on Sue Grey's report. Now, instead of the PM issuing the rote, "We must wait until the Cabinet Office report is published," we can expect the slightly awkward and frankly grotesque, "Since we are part of an active police investigation, we cannot possibly comment." I can see those words of suggested culpability easily slipping from the lips of JRM.

The coincidence of the report being complete and ready to hand over to #10 on the same day the Met announce an investigation into something that happened in the past, an excuse they have used to avoid getting their hands dirty before, is quite uncanny.

[AlexO]

The fragility of the Tory's current large majority continues to deceive.

How does the present majority "deceive" Tam. Its a numerical fact. On the Socialist Marxist parties performance to date don't see really much changing no matter how many cakes Boris ate. Most people apart from the Champaign Socialists in the South East are a wee bit more intelligent than to believe most of the media hatred being spouted just now. Don't care if its Boris in charge or not. just not that bunch of halfwits sitting opposite.

[AlexO]

Just to put the record straight .......... I was born and raised in Essex, moved to Kent, back to Essex and then to Thailand . I have never said that I was born or lived in North East. Whilst on the subject of making assumptions, I can also report that "voting Labour" is NOT in my DNA, and in fact I have always voted for the Candidate that best meets my expectations rather than the "Party" rosette he is wearing, as his job is to represent the best interests of his constituents and NOT what his "party leader" and their whipps want

So why in a long period of the UK becoming one of the top 10 economies in the world (5th at the moment I believe) do you continue to absolutely try and slaughter with verbal garbage anyone associated with the Tory party and Brexit. I would understand if Cameron's, Osbourne's, Heseltine' s and myriad others including the chap who did not want to prosecute the Asian child rapist gangs for fear of being called Racist (think he is the leader of the Marxist Party now) were proved to be correct, but, they are so far from the mark as to be laughable. Hope someone sends Boris a cake this week so the media can go into another frenzy.

[Earnest]

Just to put the record straight .......... I was born and raised in Essex, moved to Kent, back to Essex and then to Thailand . I have never said that I was born or lived in North East. Whilst on the subject of making assumptions, I can also report that "voting Labour" is NOT in my DNA, and in fact I have always voted for the Candidate that best meets my expectations rather than the "Party" rosette he is wearing, as his job is to represent the best interests of his constituents and NOT what his "party leader" and their whipps want

Well, that's even worse, Geordie. And a Newcastle supporter? It's just like the old joke about posh Surrey boys travelling up to Old Trafford to see Man U.

Essex? A closet working class Tory? I'm seriously disappointed.

[GT93]

Yes, Newcastle?

The Johnson government and Johnson himself are so awful it's difficult for non-Brits to see how Labour could possibly be as bad. Johnson's mob don't even seem to be a proper Tory government. Asserting they are is unfair on Tories.

In the contemporary world I think right of centre parties are more likely to do great harm than left of centre parties. That doesn't mean I accept left of centre governments are better. It's just that the risks of catastrophe are greater from the right. Johnson has been a disaster. I'd score him 0/10 for managing Brexit. He makes the UK look like a banana republic.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Yes, Newcastle?

The Johnson government and Johnson himself are so awful it's difficult for non-Brits to see how Labour could possibly be as bad. Johnson's mob don't even seem to be a proper Tory government. Asserting they are is unfair on Tories.

In the contemporary world I think right of centre parties are more likely to do great harm than left of centre parties. That doesn't mean I accept left of centre governments are better. It's just that the risks of catastrophe are greater from the right. Johnson has been a disaster. I'd score him 0/10 for managing Brexit. He makes the UK look like a banana republic.

I suspect the majority of non-British people would judge, based on history, that Labour has the potential to be much worse than the Conservative Party. Furthermore, I doubt most people outside the U.K. and Europe follow its politics closely enough to make a proper comment on its policies, parties and economy. It is much like non citizens of the U.S.A. trying to make comments on its politics and society. They just don't understand the United States well enough to do so with much competence.

[Earnest]

1979.

[samster]

The 1975

[tamada]

So the Met effectively puts the lid on Sue Grey's report. Now, instead of the PM issuing the rote, "We must wait until the Cabinet Office report is published," we can expect the slightly awkward and frankly grotesque, "Since we are part of an active police investigation, we cannot possibly comment." I can see those words of suggested culpability easily slipping from the lips of JRM.

The coincidence of the report being complete and ready to hand over to #10 on the same day the Met announce an investigation into something that happened in the past, an excuse they have used to avoid getting their hands dirty before, is quite uncanny.

Update: It appears that only the redacted version of the Cabinet Office report will ever get to see the light of day.

Nice reacharound by Johnson and Dick. Can't say we didn't see THAT coming, eh?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -partygate

[Earnest]

I understand the Prime Minister seeks to parley with Putin, which I find rather embarrassing. Does Johnson not understand that the World sees him as a clown who likes a bit of cake and enjoys a run in a bobble hat with a messy dog?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60179127

[AlexO]

Yes, Newcastle?

The Johnson government and Johnson himself are so awful it's difficult for non-Brits to see how Labour could possibly be as bad. Johnson's mob don't even seem to be a proper Tory government. Asserting they are is unfair on Tories.

In the contemporary world I think right of centre parties are more likely to do great harm than left of centre parties. That doesn't mean I accept left of centre governments are better. It's just that the risks of catastrophe are greater from the right. Johnson has been a disaster. I'd score him 0/10 for managing Brexit. He makes the UK look like a banana republic.

You never fail to amuse by proving just how much out of touch you really are.
The current Left of Center opposition are so far left the are in danger of falling of the edge of the world. Please refer to the UFES for evidence that they can. Just highlight the disaster that Johnston is. The UK has come through a pandemic never experienced since 1918/1919. The economy is growing, there is no mass unemployment, house prices are increasing despite what Osbourne and the Marxists predicted. Heseltine continues to be a foolish old man along with Bliar and the coward Starmer but you continue without one thread of real evidence continue to say the Tory Parties handling of Brexit and Covid were an absolute disaster. Take some anti hate pills you need them.

[jackspratt]

You never fail to amuse by proving just how much out of touch you really are.....

..... The UK has come through a pandemic never experienced since 1918/1919.....

....Take some anti hate pills you need them.

Come through the pandemic, but at what cost?

Covid deaths/million of population - the UK stinks.

UK - 2269

Thailand (similar population) - 316

Australia - 140

In fact the UK has done worse than Russia and Greece, and much worse than France, Spain and Germany etc etc.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Are Reality pills for sale in the UK?

[AlexO]

You never fail to amuse by proving just how much out of touch you really are.....

..... The UK has come through a pandemic never experienced since 1918/1919.....

....Take some anti hate pills you need them.

Come through the pandemic, but at what cost?

Covid deaths/million of population - the UK stinks.

UK - 2269

Thailand (similar population) - 316

Australia - 140

In fact the UK has done worse than Russia and Greece, and much worse than France, Spain and Germany etc etc.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Are Reality pills for sale in the UK?

Wondered when the Pratt would enter into intelligent conversations but do his usual pick and choose facts.
www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/cor ... habitants/ Just read and accept that there are many 1st world nations worse off than the UK. Could it be that there are many underlying reasons ie we have become an overweight, unhealthy Country addicted to fast/processed food. Could it be that the highly paid experts doing the advice to the Government did not have a clue what they were dealing with. Politicians are politicians not surgeons, not virologists, not even intelligent enough to fill out their own expense claims. Tell me if Boris etc was so bad what solution did Starmer and his band of half wits come up with that was ignored. Nippy Sturgeon had a great idea, move Covid cases out of overcrowded hospitals into elderly care homes resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths that are being blamed on the Tory party. Go find some reality pills and take twice the recommended amount. They might join up some brain cells.

[Earnest]

The Johnson government and Johnson himself are so awful it's difficult for non-Brits to see how Labour could possibly be as bad and so on...

You never fail to amuse by proving just how much out of touch you really are.

He's here to wind up Brits and you fell for it.

[tamada]

The Cabinet Office report, in itself a fox watching the chickens exercise, is ostensibly so that the British electorate can get answers to their questions about the honesty of the elected government and their civil servants. The police are now being allowed to interfere with that process.

With regard to the Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Bill and particularly those that say, "If you've got nothing to hide you have nothing to fear." how do you see things going for the PM?

[jackspratt]

..... Tell me if Boris etc was so bad what solution did Starmer and his band of half wits come up with that was ignored.

Breaking news, Alex - whatever ideas and suggestions Starmer and the Labour Party may, or may not, have come up with are totally irrelevant. They weren't the government, now were they?