General Discussion of UK Politics

[stattointhailand]

"a positive opposition rather than just a bunch of halfwits who criticise anything the present Government does just to show that they are justifying their salaries. Answers on a postage stamp please."

Agree 100% that due to the lack of the present government doing anything, it would only need a postage stamp to criticise everything they do manage ......... and there would still be spare space

[Earnest]

So levelling up: a Tory idea not a Labour one and now being pushed by Micky Gove but Labour says 'is this it?' An Opposition that sits on its hands while the Tories make the running. This is why Labour aren't ready for government yet.

BBC News - Michael Gove's 'levelling up' plan unveiled but ambition questioned
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60233843

[tamada]

Leveling up is a Tory construct and apparently it's been trotted out before. However, I seriously doubt Labour would countenance anything similar to such an obvious, right wing, "fill yer boots" exercise as this latest version.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... ainst-them

[stattointhailand]

seems pretty good to me ...... 2 years to produce a paper which when it finally arrives promises absolutely nothing new, and in fact lower spending than what has been promised in soundbites released previously

[stattointhailand]

Not heard too much about this .......

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/202 ... 52V-_5VPns

[Earnest]

Leveling up is a Tory construct and apparently it's been trotted out before. However, I seriously doubt Labour would countenance anything similar to such an obvious, right wing, "fill yer boots" exercise as this latest version.

Of course not, they've not had an original idea since the One Eyed Idiot left office in 2010.

I miss old Gordon, he wasn't half bad as a PM despite me saying the opposite back then.



'More tea, Vicar?'

'No, but I'll have another currant bun, yer Cheb!'

[AlexO]

"Paper thin huge majority", massive addition to the English language Tam. "as honest as they can" The Marxists would not know honesty if it came free with their expense claims, the SNP under Blackpudding are about as useful as the Lib Dems which equals the grand total of zilch. Clutching at straws again buddy.

[tamada]

"Paper thin huge majority", massive addition to the English language Tam. "as honest as they can" The Marxists would not know honesty if it came free with their expense claims, the SNP under Blackpudding are about as useful as the Lib Dems which equals the grand total of zilch. Clutching at straws again buddy.

If you can't see the Tory's recently acquired thin blue wall for what it is, then your shock when it gets blown over is going to be huge so you better be sitting down. I wonder what all those brand new, young, one hit wonder Tory MP's will do next? The LibDems should suck all their lame, altruistic, pie in the sky, gullible, idealist arses right up.

Unless of course the Conservative Party sees sense and gets rid of that prime ministerial farse Johnson before the next election. Good chance of retaining a fair bit of northern fealty if they do that so the sooner the better. But I fear they won't. Spiteful buggers seldom do what's right.

[AlexO]

Leveling up is a Tory construct and apparently it's been trotted out before. However, I seriously doubt Labour would countenance anything similar to such an obvious, right wing, "fill yer boots" exercise as this latest version.

Of course not, they've not had an original idea since the One Eyed Idiot left office in 2010.

I miss old Gordon, he wasn't half bad as a PM despite me saying the opposite back then.



'More tea, Vicar?'

'No, but I'll have another currant bun, yer Cheb!'

Yes Broon was a good PM apart from secretly signing the Maastricht Treaty, selling off the UK's gold reserves after telling his pals in the City when and for how much! He also decided that pensioners were too well off on retirement and plundered the pension funds to help pay for Bliar and his overgenerous benefits packages to the UK's underclass and East European slave workers. Aye he was good alright, not.

[Earnest]

OK, get your hands out of your pockets, stand up straight and look me in the eye when you address me, young man. I will not tolerate insubordination in this Mess.

[stattointhailand]

At least the UKs "underclass" and the "East European Slave Workers" produced something for the money, unlike the Tory "DONATIONS" to PPE Providers to produce useless products if they managed anything at all ........... Hope that nice Mr Dyson is happy with his new factory in Singapore paid for by the British Taxpayer (that's a pretty long commute for his Wiltshire based workforce)

[Earnest]

The British tax payer underwrote the Dyson factory in Singapore?

[GT93]

John Major reported in, yes, that widely respected British rag, The Guardian:

At No 10, the prime minister and officials broke lockdown laws.

Brazen excuses were dreamed up. Day after day, the public was asked to believe the unbelievable. Ministers were sent out to defend the indefensible – making themselves look either gullible or foolish.

Collectively, this has made the government look distinctly shifty, which has consequences that go far beyond political unpopularity. The lack of trust in the elected portion of our democracy cannot be brushed aside. Parliament has a duty to correct this.

If it does not, and trust is lost at home, our politics is broken.

If trust in our word is lost overseas, we may no longer be able to work effectively with friends and partners for mutual benefit – or even security. Unfortunately, that trust is being lost, and our reputation overseas has fallen because of our conduct. We are weakening our influence in the world.

We should be wary. Even a casual glance at overseas opinion shows our reputation is being shredded. A nation that loses friends and allies becomes a weaker nation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... is-johnson

The Johnson administration has trashed the UK's reputation overseas. Paul Keating's (former Aussie Prime Minister) barbs come to mind. It's sad watching this disaster unfold. Hopefully the next UK Prime Minister is a responsible adult.

[BillaRickaDickay]

Some people have short memories, Trust and Politics in the UK was broken when MPs were caught fiddling their Expenses and refusing to accept the Brexit Referendum result.

[AlexO]

John Major reported in, yes, that widely respected British rag, The Guardian:

At No 10, the prime minister and officials broke lockdown laws.

Brazen excuses were dreamed up. Day after day, the public was asked to believe the unbelievable. Ministers were sent out to defend the indefensible – making themselves look either gullible or foolish.

Collectively, this has made the government look distinctly shifty, which has consequences that go far beyond political unpopularity. The lack of trust in the elected portion of our democracy cannot be brushed aside. Parliament has a duty to correct this.

If it does not, and trust is lost at home, our politics is broken.

If trust in our word is lost overseas, we may no longer be able to work effectively with friends and partners for mutual benefit – or even security. Unfortunately, that trust is being lost, and our reputation overseas has fallen because of our conduct. We are weakening our influence in the world.

We should be wary. Even a casual glance at overseas opinion shows our reputation is being shredded. A nation that loses friends and allies becomes a weaker nation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... is-johnson

The Johnson administration has trashed the UK's reputation overseas. Paul Keating's (former Aussie Prime Minister) barbs come to mind. It's sad watching this disaster unfold. Hopefully the next UK Prime Minister is a responsible adult.

That will be the same John Major who admitted to having a 4 year affair with fellow MP Edwina Currie (breach of trust), who refused to honour the Brexit referendum vote (breach of trust) and admitted to the most heinous crime of tucking his shirt into his underpants (breach of common sense) The same person who stabbed the best PM the UK has had since WW11 while serving in her cabinet (breach of trust) and speaks to the Guardian (demonstration of utter contempt of the normal people in the UK) Major is just another forgotten nonentity of a politician who believes in his shrinking brain that he still has influence in politics.

[joudon]

Both those comments are true. There are MP's of all sides who just fail to meet the high standards required.

[tamada]

Both those comments are true. There are MP's of all sides who just fail to meet the high standards required.

It's just the Tories excel at failing to meet these standards. None of the others come close. Good grief, just look at Alex's excoriation of John Major, one of his own who simply took over Thatcher's sinking ship. It was Geoffrey Howe who fired the first torpedo.

[stattointhailand]

Geoffrey Howe was lucky the cow hadn't sold off the torpedos along with everything else

[jackspratt]

Another brilliant article from Marina Hyde in the Gruniard, in which she eviscerates the ex-Commissioner, along with Johnson and a number of his fawning minions.

Farewell, Cressida Dick, the Met chief only interested in one thing: ignoring bad coppers

Dick seemed more angered by poor policing on TV than in real life. She’ll be missed by her friends in government, if no one else

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... GTUK_email

[Earnest]

Yeah, your columnist draws on that important link between attitudes at the Met and with the current Government. I would focus on the Commissioner's (and the Mayor's) inability to get to grips with knife crime among young lads in the capital and the related murder rate. Overall, current leadership in the UK is not effective.