Prince Andrew, Duke of York KG GCVO CD ADC(P)

[Khun Paul]

If in doubt use a dictionary, but sadly for me often typos spoil the delivery and if I do not spot them , there is hell to pay from those who SPEND ALL DAY in front of a screen and bugger all else to do...............lol

[stattointhailand]

How can I have miss spelt sumfink if I didn't know how to spell it in the first place? (gave up after 10 minutes of looking through all the SUM's in my dictionary and still cant find Sumfink)

[pepesgrill]

what alexO said earlier i think was misinterpreted
when he mentioned a country's boundaries

age of consent laws . in u.k. it's 16 , other countries vary. then frequently there's close-age
exemption clauses

make no mistake, andy shouldnt have been fiddling with 17 year old. but a line on a map
resulted in u.k. taxpayer on hook 12 million £

[Khun Paul]

Ah Pepesgrill you know for a FACT that Prince Andrew fiddled with a 17 trafficked female without her consent do you.
As with all things especially with Sexual cases the burden of proof is on the accuser not the offender.
She was trafficked that has been determined in another court by the man who was in charge of that offence and he has subsequently died.
Prince Andrew was stupid and reckless in his association with Epstein and may or may not have been involved in as you say fiddling with this particular 17 year old who seemed according to the photo ( original seemingly lost ) quite happy. However one word against the other is all it is. One denies it one vehemently says it happened.
Using normal rules of burden of proof, it is more certain that he did not, however considering the impact on his Mother and the HUGE worldwide attention where it is known that each and every word of any court case would no doubt be examined , tried and determined in the WORLDS PRESS, like it or not a payment was considered the best option, while at the same time NOT admitting fault in any way
As for the Tax-payer paying for this, doubtful .

[Drunk Monkey]

Dear Marjorie

im feeling really ashamed as it appears i may be reckless and stupid every time i go out as i find myself staring and salivating at young 17 18 year old ladies in Raja uniforms ...should i turn myself in to the local constabulary ?? alternatively cease my volunteers role at the uni vaccing site and part time security guard on the Uni gate and return my new specsavers stare proof tinted glasses to the shop.

Any advice from UMs finest social political and academic analysts would be most welcome.

Andy can stop sweating (oh forgot he doesnt sweat) this case will drift away into the ether ... until that is Ms Maxwell decides to squeal and more tit bits come out of other randy Andy reckless fiddlling... he is however totally screwed as a royal and will remain a leppar within the Windsor mafia.

DM

[stattointhailand]

Thought he was doing a biffing good job at restoring the old family name what
More lead in yer pencil lad
Whats a chap supposed to do settle down with some old goat and wait for mama to kick the bucket?
Its what "born with a silver spoon" is supposed to mean
Life would be pretty boring if ya just had to shag the servants to keep it quiet

[pepesgrill]

oh , i thought we were long past the " denying" stage

12 million £ is a lot to pay if you're innocent. a fraction of that could have been spent on a spurious defamation charge & put an end to it

[Khun Paul]

oh , i thought we were long past the " denying" stage

12 million £ is a lot to pay if you're innocent. a fraction of that could have been spent on a spurious defamation charge & put an end to it

Put a sock in your stupid mouth and read, that is if you have the skill to do so. He has never said he did , always denied it, whether he did or did not is now immaterial .

Copnsider the payment as they do here, pay to keep it out of the courts, apart from unlike here you know about it, here it is all SDECRET under the table in sealed envelopes etc

OH DM looking and thinking is not YET illegal so you carry on salivating as much as you want as long as that is all you do..............lol

[stattointhailand]

"whether he did or did not is now immaterial ."


So paying up makes you innocent by default regardless of the facts ........... I thought thats how plod worked

[pepesgrill]

it gets awkward when the law is involved, and
seems to side with the perp. it's not (1) instance.
he did this multiple times. only called out once

[Khun Paul]

it gets awkward when the law is involved, and
seems to side with the perp. it's not (1) instance.
he did this multiple times. only called out once

Prove your latest statement or is it just speaking without thinking , so common these days

[Khun Paul]

"whether he did or did not is now immaterial ."


So paying up makes you innocent by default regardless of the facts ........... I thought thats how plod worked

Case is now closed ;legally what you think is neither here nor there , innocent I never said that only that he has denied it all, as most would and has even now NOT admitted guilt which you as a learned Judge and a Jury have already decided by your own twisted logic. He may well be guilty but the bottom line it is still two people NOT agreeing about what happened , am argument, you know those things that happen on a daily basis between TWO people .

Every man/woman, no matter who they are are until proven Innocent until proven Guilty, what I believe is irrelevant, we ALL know people who we know are guilty but as never proven , are still walking and breathing despite everything. Not right but that is the LASW unless of course you prescribe to the old Hue and Cry system where people are hunted down to sorted by a mob of really upset people.

[tamada]

it gets awkward when the law is involved, and
seems to side with the perp. it's not (1) instance.
he did this multiple times. only called out once

Prove your latest statement or is it just speaking without thinking , so common these days

Of course there can never be proof now that mummy has paid for the silence of his accusers. As to it not being his only rodeo, Google is your friend.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 64566.html

[Khun Paul]

it gets awkward when the law is involved, and
seems to side with the perp. it's not (1) instance.
he did this multiple times. only called out once

Prove your latest statement or is it just speaking without thinking , so common these days

Of course there can never be proof now that mummy has paid for the silence of his accusers. As to it not being his only rodeo, Google is your friend.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 64566.html

Ah who said Mummy ( aka Her Majesty has paid ) more guesswork by the ill-informed and B/S members. The fact that it has been agreed the sum to be paid to a charity , plus the fact that Crown Estates and HM itself have access to large sums, everyone assumes she is paying. No doubt she agreed the terms and will ensure those funds are available but from whence they come from is up in the air , so lets stick to the truth shall we. Thank you all

[tamada]

Of course mummy's paying.

https://www.nationalworld.com/news/prin ... re-3570754

[stattointhailand]

If he says hes innocent, why wont he stand in front of a court of law under oath and answer the questions?
Whether the money comes directly from the taxpayer or queens purse it is still taxpayers money and they deserve to be told the truth ..... the whole truth ...... and nothing but the truth ........ which has clearly not been the case so far

[Khun Paul]

If he says hes innocent, why wont he stand in front of a court of law under oath and answer the questions?
Whether the money comes directly from the taxpayer or queens purse it is still taxpayers money and they deserve to be told the truth ..... the whole truth ...... and nothing but the truth ........ which has clearly not been the case so far

There is more at stake than just a Court case, I am sorry you do not get that

[tamada]

If he says hes innocent, why wont he stand in front of a court of law under oath and answer the questions?
Whether the money comes directly from the taxpayer or queens purse it is still taxpayers money and they deserve to be told the truth ..... the whole truth ...... and nothing but the truth ........ which has clearly not been the case so far

There is more at stake than just a Court case, I am sorry you do not get that

You mean jail time?

[stattointhailand]

No KP, I don't "get it" ........ If he's innocent why is he lying through his teeth every time he gets cornered.

I don't sweat
I stayed at his NY flat becaise there was nowhere more convenient (in the whole of NY?)
I just went to say we weren't friends anymore ..... it took 3 days
Anyone that knows me know that I'm not the type of guy to cuddle young girls (dozens of photos of him doing just that at parties/nightclubs)

[AlexO]

No KP, I don't "get it" ........ If he's innocent why is he lying through his teeth every time he gets cornered.

I don't sweat
I stayed at his NY flat becaise there was nowhere more convenient (in the whole of NY?)
I just went to say we weren't friends anymore ..... it took 3 days
Anyone that knows me know that I'm not the type of guy to cuddle young girls (dozens of photos of him doing just that at parties/nightclubs)

And just what age do you think he was when those photo's were taken?