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Post by pepesgrill » March 26, 2022, 7:38 pm

glalt wrote:
March 26, 2022, 5:40 pm
. . . Buying electric cars is not going to help. Joe gets advice from the super moron John Kerry.
i never understood how this was thought to help. battery manufacturing plants are toxic waste dumps, disposing of these 200kg battery packs
is going to be an ecological disaster. are all the
charging stations poweredby " clean" energy ? so
many things were not thought through at all

no, im not even close. a tesla battery pack weighs
nearly 600kg, battery life 7 yrs? my phone says no



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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by Earnest » March 27, 2022, 4:14 am

Sport wrote:
March 26, 2022, 6:45 pm
Earnest wrote:
March 26, 2022, 6:40 pm
Bring back Donald Trump!
Just have to wait for him or his appointee a bit longer. Rip Van Winkle Biden is still sleeping.
Appointee, how does that work? Maybe the Donald appoints someone then tells GOP this appointee is going to run on behalf of the party?
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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by GT93 » March 27, 2022, 5:21 am

An endorsement from Trump is becoming less and less important as he's slowly losing his grip on the Republicans. He seems to endorse too many losers too. I think the f... moron is now toast. Putin has helped seal that. 8)

And surely Trump is going to be indicted on a variety of charges this year. That's long overdue.
Lock 'em up - Eastman, Giuliani, Senator Graham, Meadows and Trump

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Post by papafarang » March 27, 2022, 5:50 am

Earnest wrote:
March 27, 2022, 4:14 am
Sport wrote:
March 26, 2022, 6:45 pm
Earnest wrote:
March 26, 2022, 6:40 pm
Bring back Donald Trump!
Just have to wait for him or his appointee a bit longer. Rip Van Winkle Biden is still sleeping.
Appointee, how does that work? Maybe the Donald appoints someone then tells GOP this appointee is going to run on behalf of the party?
Running on behalf of him you mean , i thnk it means put in a puppet pres and then control him from a golf course, real deep state stuff. Of course trump will have some serious blackmail info on whoever he puts in power. Banana republic kind of stuff.
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Post by GT93 » March 27, 2022, 6:07 am

From a golf course? I hope if he's ever pulling the bloody strings, it's from a prison cell. Lock him up. :lol:
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Post by papafarang » March 27, 2022, 6:26 am

GT93 wrote:
March 27, 2022, 6:07 am
From a golf course? I hope if he's ever pulling the bloody strings, it's from a prison cell. Lock him up. :lol:
Your probably right , he could run the country from a prison cell.
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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by pepesgrill » March 27, 2022, 6:41 am

if , following the brit model , the next heir to

throne would be donald jr. ostensibly a clone
and we're growing more in labs. nyah , nyah :lol:

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Post by Khun Paul » March 27, 2022, 6:45 am

If D Trump runs not only will that create so many divisions in America marred by violence and Racist undertones, but if he WINS , democratic America will no longer exist and the 300 million odd AMERICANS WILL WONDER WHAT WENT WRONG

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Post by rick » March 27, 2022, 10:50 am

Never mind, he will probably appoint Putin as his VP..... Autocracy rules!

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Post by glalt » March 27, 2022, 1:16 pm

We should all know by now that the majority of politicians are dirty.Trump is proud of beating and cheating the tax laws. Uncle Joe, his family and in particular his totally useless son have gotten VERY wealthy.

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Post by pepesgrill » March 28, 2022, 5:24 pm

uncle joe is enraged by the current state of affairs
in eastern europe. but 1st a nap. and then by gawd
heads will roll

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Post by Whistler » March 28, 2022, 7:28 pm

pepesgrill wrote:
March 26, 2022, 7:38 pm
glalt wrote:
March 26, 2022, 5:40 pm
. . . Buying electric cars is not going to help. Joe gets advice from the super moron John Kerry.
i never understood how this was thought to help. battery manufacturing plants are toxic waste dumps, disposing of these 200kg battery packs
is going to be an ecological disaster. are all the
charging stations poweredby " clean" energy ? so
many things were not thought through at all

no, im not even close. a tesla battery pack weighs
nearly 600kg, battery life 7 yrs? my phone says no
Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are looking at the worst possible scenarios, very outdated in this fast moving world, then you come up with a dud hypothesis. You are not very bright, and your phone has less cognitive powers than yourself, but only just.

Do your reseach, not just neocon do nothing, websites. Most vehicles have battery packs under 200KG, not 600Kg as you post. Wake up and smell the future with recycled batteries, more efficient vehicles etc, etc.

Dont concentrate on the negative. You failed to mention the weight of a fossil fuel driven engine, an 80 litre fuel tank weighs over 80KG when full, plus the gearbox and the rest of the transmisson. Electric vehicles replace these with lightweigh motors and wiring.
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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by pepesgrill » March 28, 2022, 8:28 pm

oh , hey walt . or is it nikola tesla today? physics
and science prodigy ? your writing and ideas have the depth of an 8th grade student . literally
a 14 year old boy ? none of your counterpoints
make any sense( because you did no research)
at least i looked stuff up i was unsure about. :|

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Post by Doodoo » March 28, 2022, 8:39 pm

80 Litre of petrol weighs in ay 59 Kilograms
https://coolconversion.com/density-volu ... ol--in--kg

As for electric vehicles Electrics are TANKS
"Batteries are heavy. That's why, generally, electric cars weigh considerably more than otherwise similar gasoline-powered vehicles. Take the GMC Hummer EV, for instance. The Edition 1 version, which has lots of batteries for additional driving range and power, weighs over 9,000 pounds. That's roughly three times the weight of a Honda Civic"

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/07/busi ... index.html

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Post by Whistler » March 28, 2022, 10:07 pm

Doodoo wrote:
March 28, 2022, 8:39 pm
80 Litre of petrol weighs in ay 59 Kilograms
https://coolconversion.com/density-volu ... ol--in--kg

As for electric vehicles Electrics are TANKS
"Batteries are heavy. That's why, generally, electric cars weigh considerably more than otherwise similar gasoline-powered vehicles. Take the GMC Hummer EV, for instance. The Edition 1 version, which has lots of batteries for additional driving range and power, weighs over 9,000 pounds. That's roughly three times the weight of a Honda Civic"

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/07/busi ... index.html
You are hysterical. What has a Hummer v's a Honda civic got to do with a mass produced electric vehicle? Hummer EV, the name is in the badge not the engineering. so Zip, nada. Why even mention it?

As for 80 litres of petrol, the tank weighs nothing???? or does the petrol swill around in the passenger cabin? It does not need a tank, pump, fuel lines, petrol filling cap etc. How much change out of 80KG including fuel? Not much is the honest answer.

Now you failed to mention anything about motors and transmission, a small block V6 weighs around 240KG, a V8 a good deal more, gearboxs are around 50KG. So motor, gearbox, fuel tank etc totals around 370KG+, now add on radiator and coolant, electric fans and the battery needed to start the engine, engine mounts, gearbox linkages, etc etc, you get get close to 470Kg. Weight of batteries for a standard S series Tesla is 478KG (not 600KG as you claim), plus of course motors. Not a big difference, and other vehicles are way lighter than a Tesla.

Electric motors are more efficient than a petrol engine, so the energy consumed over the life of an electric vehicle is staggeringly lower than that of a petrol engine. That is why the early, and an accelerating shift is now underway from petrol to electric.
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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by Kenr6583 » March 28, 2022, 10:26 pm

Really? Comparing the weight of a Hummer to a Civic?

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Post by Doodoo » March 28, 2022, 11:16 pm

All you two can do is find out who wrote the article and email them to ask why they used this comparison

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Post by Kenr6583 » March 28, 2022, 11:19 pm

Not necessary.

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Post by Whistler » March 29, 2022, 7:41 am

Doodoo wrote:
March 28, 2022, 11:16 pm
All you two can do is find out who wrote the article and email them to ask why they used this comparison
Agree with my Texan poster, this little side issue has been reduced to Ting Tong status by Khun Doodoo and Khun Pepesgril
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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by pepesgrill » March 29, 2022, 8:14 am

it's embarrassing for me to even discuss this subject with you walt . you truly understand zippo

electric vehicles are inherently heavier than their
petrol counterparts. battery packs start at 400kg?

efficiency? waiting 10 hours for thing to charge?
that 30 minute fable only happens at superstation

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