So far, at least, the answer appears to be that there's no link.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/heal ... troke.html
So far, at least, the answer appears to be that there's no link.
But you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
Strange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
True I mentioned only two but added etc, meaning that there are more , NO vaccin e ever stops you completely heting the dieases/illness you are vaccin ated against EVERYONE KLNOWS that except you it seems. BU A VACCINE does hinder the onset of the more serious sometimes fatal scenario if you catch whatever you are vaccinated against. Take Polio / TB. to name a couple .fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:20 pmStrange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
You talk about the same planet??? FFS, I must be because I dont understand a thing you said there, take a deep breath and try and write slowly..... When covid went through my sons class, 13 year old the vaccinated kids got sick, my bloke had a sniffle for a day, thats it, Mum and myself had nothing and showed no infection on RAT testing. So to me the proof is in the pudding, as I said, lets see in a year or two.... I'm in no hurry for another jab and never have considered a flu shot ever.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:44 pmTrue I mentioned only two but added etc, meaning that there are more , NO vaccin e ever stops you completely heting the dieases/illness you are vaccin ated against EVERYONE KLNOWS that except you it seems. BU A VACCINE does hinder the onset of the more serious sometimes fatal scenario if you catch whatever you are vaccinated against. Take Polio / TB. to name a couple .fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:20 pmStrange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
As for transmission you are not on the same planet are you , in this case Covid and all its mutations is AIRBORNE , so unless you live in a Vaccum, it spreads.
I used to teach English maybe my other skill can assist youfatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 5:15 pmYou talk about the same planet??? FFS, I must be because I dont understand a thing you said there, take a deep breath and try and write slowly..... When covid went through my sons class, 13 year old the vaccinated kids got sick, my bloke had a sniffle for a day, thats it, Mum and myself had nothing and showed no infection on RAT testing. So to me the proof is in the pudding, as I said, lets see in a year or two.... I'm in no hurry for another jab and never have considered a flu shot ever.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:44 pmTrue I mentioned only two but added etc, meaning that there are more , NO vaccin e ever stops you completely heting the dieases/illness you are vaccin ated against EVERYONE KLNOWS that except you it seems. BU A VACCINE does hinder the onset of the more serious sometimes fatal scenario if you catch whatever you are vaccinated against. Take Polio / TB. to name a couple .fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:20 pmStrange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
As for transmission you are not on the same planet are you , in this case Covid and all its mutations is AIRBORNE , so unless you live in a Vaccum, it spreads.
Jeezus bob. We all know your stance on this. Nobody here's trying to convert you or sell you on anything you don't want or believe in. FWIW, everyone's metabolism and immune system is unique so comparing your kids classes or even my tribe's rather benign interaction is totally irrelevant.fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 5:15 pmYou talk about the same planet??? FFS, I must be because I dont understand a thing you said there, take a deep breath and try and write slowly..... When covid went through my sons class, 13 year old the vaccinated kids got sick, my bloke had a sniffle for a day, thats it, Mum and myself had nothing and showed no infection on RAT testing. So to me the proof is in the pudding, as I said, lets see in a year or two.... I'm in no hurry for another jab and never have considered a flu shot ever.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:44 pmTrue I mentioned only two but added etc, meaning that there are more , NO vaccin e ever stops you completely heting the dieases/illness you are vaccin ated against EVERYONE KLNOWS that except you it seems. BU A VACCINE does hinder the onset of the more serious sometimes fatal scenario if you catch whatever you are vaccinated against. Take Polio / TB. to name a couple .fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:20 pmStrange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
As for transmission you are not on the same planet are you , in this case Covid and all its mutations is AIRBORNE , so unless you live in a Vaccum, it spreads.
5555555, you would have to be joking, an ex copper a teacher 555555, funniest thing I've ever heard, a sharp tool in the shed your not 55555555.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 5:17 pmI used to teach English maybe my other skill can assist youfatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 5:15 pmYou talk about the same planet??? FFS, I must be because I dont understand a thing you said there, take a deep breath and try and write slowly..... When covid went through my sons class, 13 year old the vaccinated kids got sick, my bloke had a sniffle for a day, thats it, Mum and myself had nothing and showed no infection on RAT testing. So to me the proof is in the pudding, as I said, lets see in a year or two.... I'm in no hurry for another jab and never have considered a flu shot ever.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:44 pmTrue I mentioned only two but added etc, meaning that there are more , NO vaccin e ever stops you completely heting the dieases/illness you are vaccin ated against EVERYONE KLNOWS that except you it seems. BU A VACCINE does hinder the onset of the more serious sometimes fatal scenario if you catch whatever you are vaccinated against. Take Polio / TB. to name a couple .fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:20 pmStrange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
As for transmission you are not on the same planet are you , in this case Covid and all its mutations is AIRBORNE , so unless you live in a Vaccum, it spreads.
In Non Sa-At the process is somewhat similar .FrazeeDK wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 2:24 pmFor those of you looking to get your 2nd booster or shot #4. If you've had none they'll start you on the series.
Shot clinic is out behind the hospital set up under a large tent in the parking lot direcly across from Cafe Amason Here:
https://www.google.co.th/maps/@17.41695 ... 8192?hl=th
1. I received the 4th dose for free.
2. They wanted to see my vaccination certificate but when I showed them it via my Maw Prom app on my phone that was fine.
3. Got processed and got the shot (PFIZER) and received my updated vax certificated in less than 10 minutes. My Maw Prom application on my phone show an updated vax status and I received an e-mail with a PDF copy of the updated vaccine certifiate. all within a few minutes. We arrived at around 10AM and left by 1010AM.
4. Went over to the Udon Thani Provincial Health office to get our Vaccine Passports updated. Located here on the first floor of the building shown: https://www.google.co.th/maps/@17.41340 ... 8192?hl=th
5. Have your updated vaccine certificate, vaccine passport, your personal passport and 50 baht. The Vaccine Passport desk is in the middle of the foyer. Go to the desk and someone will come out. The update applicatiion forms are by the wall. Fill out the forms (English OK). Give it all to the person at the desk. They'll process/update the vaccine passport in their office, come back out and give you the payment slip to go to the 2nd floor to pay your 50 baht and get a receipt. Return the receipt to the person at the desk and get your updatec vaccine passport and all papers back.
6. Unlike in the past the Vaccine Passport is updated on the spot. No one week waiting to get some pu-yai to sign it at the main hospital..
Thankyou for your compliment, I will pu it in my memoir, complimented by a numpty !!fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 8:45 pm5555555, you would have to be joking, an ex copper a teacher 555555, funniest thing I've ever heard, a sharp tool in the shed your not 55555555.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 5:17 pmI used to teach English maybe my other skill can assist youfatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 5:15 pmYou talk about the same planet??? FFS, I must be because I dont understand a thing you said there, take a deep breath and try and write slowly..... When covid went through my sons class, 13 year old the vaccinated kids got sick, my bloke had a sniffle for a day, thats it, Mum and myself had nothing and showed no infection on RAT testing. So to me the proof is in the pudding, as I said, lets see in a year or two.... I'm in no hurry for another jab and never have considered a flu shot ever.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:44 pmTrue I mentioned only two but added etc, meaning that there are more , NO vaccin e ever stops you completely heting the dieases/illness you are vaccin ated against EVERYONE KLNOWS that except you it seems. BU A VACCINE does hinder the onset of the more serious sometimes fatal scenario if you catch whatever you are vaccinated against. Take Polio / TB. to name a couple .fatbob wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:20 pmStrange, its called a vaccine,,, it neither prevents the transmission or catching of covid, it's only claim is it reduces the illness, I call BS on that, the side effects will be common knowledge in a few years from now. Mean while the billions of dollars are stashed away...tamada wrote: ↑January 16, 2023, 3:02 pmBut you went ahead and mentioned the two of the only three variables that have been commonly uttered at each and every stage of the pandemic.Khun Paul wrote: ↑January 14, 2023, 5:23 pmThe big problem as I see it and having read many uttereances by a few doctors as usual they seem to offer a blanket possibility that it may happen without detailing those who could be at risk as they did before, regarding high blood pressure, respiratory problems etc.
Any vaccine can have side-effects we ALL know that but to state a STROKE LINK PROBLEM , without categorising and outlineing , especially those with underlying problems of those over 65 . Is like pouring petrol on a fire .
Too many variables and nothing as yet propvable one way or the other.
1 ) Those over 60, and/or
2 ) Those with pre-existing conditions, and/or
3 ) Those who are immuno-defficient.
Those are pretty much the standard risk categories for pretty much any sickness, disease and vaccine.
As for transmission you are not on the same planet are you , in this case Covid and all its mutations is AIRBORNE , so unless you live in a Vaccum, it spreads.
an early morning chortle ... thanks Jack.
Although you're a young buck compared with most of the the Udon old farts collective, by nature of your recent surgery where they took something out, you may fit the immunocompromised demographic? So where I would suggest you could hold off on 4th jabs and flu shots based on age, maybe you should get Pfizer Pfour just in case.Drunk Monkey wrote: ↑January 17, 2023, 8:56 aman early morning chortle ... thanks Jack.
DM currently feeling a tad under the weather after those 2 nasty cold and rainy days ... luckily the MOPH in Ban Jan is a stones throw from our new abode so went to check if i had covid as had a high temperature .. tested - neg
After another day or so no better so went again and the lovely young ladies there checked again no temp no sore throat defo not covid its just BEN WAT / Flu apparently mainly due to the chillier weather they have had huge numbers going through the clinic over the last week or so.
Maybe time for that 4th Phizer shot (will this sh8t ever end??).. contemplating a flu jab also as they do them at the clinic.
DM
now then DM ,Drunk Monkey wrote: ↑January 17, 2023, 8:56 aman early morning chortle ... thanks Jack.
DM currently feeling a tad under the weather after those 2 nasty cold and rainy days ... luckily the MOPH in Ban Jan is a stones throw from our new abode so went to check if i had covid as had a high temperature .. tested - neg
After another day or so no better so went again and the lovely young ladies there checked again no temp no sore throat defo not covid its just BEN WAT / Flu apparently mainly due to the chillier weather they have had huge numbers going through the clinic over the last week or so.
Maybe time for that 4th Phizer shot (will this sh8t ever end??).. contemplating a flu jab also as they do them at the clinic.
DM
Timmy where is the outside bit.now then DM ,
i,ve just been for my 4th shot not 30 mins ago at the main general hospital ( the outside bit ) in - out - home easy less than 10 mins , straight to udon health dept to get covit passport updated while i waited ( no que - i know wrong spelling ) back home in time to watch last nights Corrie , wow what a life ....