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Re: Future energy sources?

Post by jackspratt » December 24, 2023, 8:10 pm

The way I read it:

- the (government) regulator accepted Santos's original submission

- the Tiwi Islanders appealed to the courts

- the Federal Court agreed with the appeal, that Santos had not complied with the relevant legislation

- Santos cleaned up their act, and made a new submission to the regulator, which has been accepted

- Santos still has some hurdles to clear, as the approval relates only to drilling, and not the proposed pipeline.

The Australian legal system is based on the British system, where the appointment of judges at all levels in both state and federal courts is seen as basically apolitical.

Long may it remain that way, with judgements not being analysed on the basis of which government (or President) was in power at the time a judge was appointed.



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Post by tamada » December 25, 2023, 6:39 am

After this, I'm not holding out much hope for the pipeline objections (not that I would have anyway).
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Post by tamada » December 25, 2023, 11:15 am

More on nuclear power.

"Last month, US nuclear developer NuScale Power announced it was cancelling its first-of-a-kind small modular reactor (SMR) project in Idaho, in what is widely being seen as a blow to the nascent technology. SMRs have been hailed as one of the best hopes for achieving net zero, and while the concept is great on paper – after all small reactors have been powering nuclear submarines and ships for decades – there are real questions over its deliverability in practice. ..."

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Post by noosard » December 25, 2023, 11:30 am

Scientists developed portable nuclear reactor with amazing feature: ‘Transformative for our economy, industry, and communities’

A small nuclear reactor that can run for eight years or more without water is scheduled to go online by 2029 in Saskatchewan, Canada.

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Post by Whistler » December 25, 2023, 4:17 pm

Looks like an interesting option for small remote communities
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Post by rick » December 26, 2023, 1:13 am

Doodoo wrote:
December 23, 2023, 11:24 am
URANIUM SUPPLIES

Largest Uranium Reserves In The World
Rank Country Uranium Reserve (in 1000 metric tons)
1 Kazakhstan 304
2 Canada 275
3 South Africa 168
4 Brazil 156
5 China 102
6 Mongolia 50
7 Ukraine 41
8 Tanzania 38
9 Uzbekistan 37
10 Russia 25
Do not know where you got this list from, but doesn't mention Australia. There known reserves in 2019 were 1,748,100 tons .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_m ... _Australia

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Re: Future energy sources?

Post by Doodoo » December 26, 2023, 6:34 am

Wikipedia gives different figures, BUT once again you can't always believe what we see printed in figures , statuses, who did what etc But again we are mislead by what is printed

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Post by tamada » December 26, 2023, 7:24 am

Wikipedia content is created by individuals and loosely moderated. It's not the Encyclopedia Britannica. It's difficult to rate its accuracy across the board.
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https://www.world-nuclear.org/informati ... ction.aspx

The above link comes from the Wiki cited earlier where a contributor mangles the data between export and production.

My opinion: it's a pity that Fukushima happened but honestly, building a large nuclear power station on the "rim of fire" was gross human error, nothing at all wrong with the technology.
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Post by Whistler » December 26, 2023, 11:14 am

Doodoo wrote:
December 26, 2023, 6:34 am
Wikipedia gives different figures, BUT once again you can't always believe what we see printed in figures , statuses, who did what etc But again we are mislead by what is printed
Lots of sources apart from Wiki, sorry doodoo your post on reserves was dead wrong in its exclusion of Australian reserves

https://world-nuclear.org/information-l ... %20uranium.
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Post by Doodoo » December 26, 2023, 2:22 pm

I am very happy that you have posted this inconsistency out for us. Whistle
If you wish to follow through so this doesnt, along with others happens again pls notify Wikipedia

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Re: Future energy sources?

Post by AlexO » December 26, 2023, 8:22 pm

Whistler wrote:
December 24, 2023, 10:45 am
Alex, have you seen, heard of, or found any evidence of mountain or hill top villages being destroyed by a man made, purpose built, steel reservoir?
EH, NO
But have never heard of mountain or hill top Hydro reservoirs either.

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Post by AlexO » December 26, 2023, 8:32 pm

I have no problems with current energy sources. Will not be around to really feel the affects of climate change, global warming or the next Ice age (remember that one about 20 years ago) but given that we increase the population by about a billion every 2 generations, land and food will be the massive problem. To flood arable land just seems to be as stupid as me supporting Celtic.

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Post by Whistler » December 26, 2023, 9:22 pm

AlexO wrote:
December 26, 2023, 8:22 pm
Whistler wrote:
December 24, 2023, 10:45 am
Alex, have you seen, heard of, or found any evidence of mountain or hill top villages being destroyed by a man made, purpose built, steel reservoir?
EH, NO
But have never heard of mountain or hill top Hydro reservoirs either.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/water/types ... wer-plants
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Post by AlexO » December 27, 2023, 9:39 am

Fully understand the theory of Hydro power, but have never seen a river or reservoir at the "TOP" of a hill or mountain.

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Post by Whistler » December 27, 2023, 10:41 am

Personally, I have never seen The Niagara Falls, the Antarctic or the Pyramids, but do not rely my personal observations to be the limit of my knowledge. There are 43 sites in the USA alone and pumped hydro provides 96% of all the stored energy in the USA.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/water/pumpe ... hydropower
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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 27, 2023, 11:04 am

AlexO wrote:
December 27, 2023, 9:39 am
Fully understand the theory of Hydro power, but have never seen a river or reservoir at the "TOP" of a hill or mountain.
As info ...
I visited the Korat GEO power site in Sikhio (Korat) a few months back ... a combination of the huge wind turbines on top of the mountain and more surprisingly a hydro plant which was fed by a reservoir high up on the mountain not the Lamthakong Rez as i first thought. .. a very busy tourist area with lots of resorts and restaurants springing up well worth a visit , 4 years ago i met a lovely Thai family with a small resort there (Tippmanee) and stay at least twice per month as a stop over point after leaving BKK.

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Re: Future energy sources?

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 27, 2023, 11:17 am

Drunk Monkey wrote:
December 27, 2023, 11:04 am
AlexO wrote:
December 27, 2023, 9:39 am
Fully understand the theory of Hydro power, but have never seen a river or reservoir at the "TOP" of a hill or mountain.
As info ...
I visited the Korat GEO power site in Sikhio (Korat) a few months back ... a combination of the huge wind turbines on top of the mountain and more surprisingly a hydro plant which was fed by a reservoir high up on the mountain not the Lamthakong Rez as i first thought. .. a very busy tourist area with lots of resorts and restaurants springing up well worth a visit , 4 years ago i met a lovely Thai family with a small resort there (Tippmanee) and stay at least twice per month as a stop over point after leaving BKK.

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OOPS forgot the FB link to Thippmanee Resort ..

https://www.facebook.com/p/%E0%B8%97%E0 ... 082739740/
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Post by glalt » December 27, 2023, 8:52 pm

Pumping water up a hill to a small lake and running water turbine generators is reported to work very well.The pumps are powered by both solar and windmills. The problem is that it is too small of a scale to make much difference to the grid.That and freezing temperatures cause problems. Water turbine generators are now easily available and people lucky enough to live by a fast moving stream are making their own electricity right here in Thailand..

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Post by tamada » January 16, 2024, 11:18 am

Australian Judge dismisses underwater Aboriginal heritage claims against Santos’ $5.8b Barossa gas project.

"Santos has won its court battle to build a $5.8 billion gas project, after a judge threw out claims its export pipeline would destroy Aboriginal ‘songlines’ deep in the ocean.

On Monday Federal Court Justice Natalie Charlesworth removed the legal obstacle that prevented the gas giant from laying the 262km pipeline to bring its Barossa project — located off the coast of the Northern Territory’s Tiwi Islands — to life.

The Barossa opponents previously won a court order in November to prevent Santos laying the pipeline, which runs at least 7km offshore in the Timor Sea."


This follows Santos' winning in another Federal court last month, paving the way for Barossa drilling.

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