Liquids on airlines

[Whistler]

There was a thread I cannot find anymore on this subject, not sure if there was a definitive answer. I have just completed an 6 leg trip domestic and international trip, and had bought perfume for partner and Nong Sow. When I checked I was given this answer.

Any container must be clearly marked as to capacity, with 100ml being maximum, a total of 1 litre of liquids can be carried made up by many smaller containers.

Hope this helps for those that wonder.

[tamada]

I recall there was an announcement some time last year that this nonsensical rule was going to be rescinded "within the next months" or so. More recently, I read that the plan to rescind had been rescinded.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Interesting. Your little sister is 'nong saoo/sao or N̂xng s̄āw in Thai.' It was only on my last flight to Thailand, just over a year ago, that I was permitted to carry water in my backpack by the Canadian carry-on-bag searchers. Previously, I had to drink it or throw the bottle away before boarding.

[maaka]

I travel around SE Asia and South Pacific...
I find the liquid thing depends on whos checking..

I have seen people in Brunei banned from carrying a medium size bottle of perfume they just bought at duty free. I suggested they tip in into smaller bottles and each carry a bottle, and then tip it back before giving it as a gift,,Customs scowled at me for intervening.

I have had even small bottle taken off me,but then arrived this year with two medium bottles of mossie repellant goo, flying out of Perth, and on to Udon, when I was sure they were a gonna....

I had a tow ball taken off me one time.. a spent tank ammo casing, a soldering iron, a multi meter, and heavens knows what else..
but I have been let into places with 500 rounds of ammo, hunting knives, motormowers..posthole borers,

the best was in NZ was I was boarding the plane, a big Maori Customs dude siddled up to me at the xray machine and said ' sir we need to search your bag. Something has come up on the screen ' ' Sure go for it..
they opened my bag like bomb tech and gingerly took out a plastic toppaware box, and with slow and sure moves removed the lid, only to burst out laughing at the bacon and eggs pies stuffed inside...Did you think that was Cemtex..

[sometimewoodworker]

I recall there was an announcement some time last year that this nonsensical rule was going to be rescinded "within the next months" or so. More recently, I read that the plan to rescind had been rescinded.

I doubt that it will ever be officially rescinded as the possibility of binary liquid explosives exists.

It is however likely that individual security teams or airports will become less and less zealous in much the same way that the carry on baggage weight limit is generally only given lip service. Some airlines and airports do enforce it rather strictly, most do not.

[tamada]

I recall there was an announcement some time last year that this nonsensical rule was going to be rescinded "within the next months" or so. More recently, I read that the plan to rescind had been rescinded.

I doubt that it will ever be officially rescinded as the possibility of binary liquid explosives exists.

It is however likely that individual security teams or airports will become less and less zealous in much the same way that the carry on baggage weight limit is generally only given lip service. Some airlines and airports do enforce it rather strictly, most do not.

This knee-jerk security response to "binary liquid explosives" started in 2006 and in the subsequent billions of air passenger miles, it hasn't happened yet. Not even been suspected.

The technology is in place to better detect what's in any bottle or package during a regular security scan and the UK authorities said late last year that it would be phased out by summer 2024.

Unfortunately, the global technology roll-out the DoT assumed would allow the end of faffing about hasn't even happened at their own major airports.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/travel/advic ... ds-laptops

[JimboPSM]

The rollout of the high-tech computed tomography (CT) scanners that are needed to change the liquids allowances rules at “major” airports around the world was targeted to be completed by the end of 2024.

Reported progress in meeting that target is somewhat mixed and, realistically, it is highly unlikely that the rollout of CT scanners will be completed by the end of 2024.

Taking the UK as an example, while CT scanners were actually operational at a number of terminals and for some “non sardine class” passengers at airports by the end of 2023 only two (relatively small) UK airports were fully operational with CT scanners (Teesside International Airport and London City Airport).

While the UK government “confirmed” back in December 2022 that UK airports would upgrade their screening equipment by June 2024; the latest consensus from the airline industry suggests that the UK target will not be completed until mid 2025 (a situation that is probably similar in a number of other countries).

Those whose travel itineraries include transit airports which have their own security checks for “airside passengers in transit” may find that the liquids allowances rules used for airside transit security are at a lower level than the liquids allowances rules used for security at their departure airport.

In order to prevent problems en route it is advisable to check on what the liquids allowances rules are at your departure airport and, if you have to transit airside security at other airports, what the liquids allowances rules are at all the transit airport security checkpoints your itinerary includes and use the lowest common denominator.

Keeping it simple, if in doubt stick to the old liquids allowances rules.

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[Barney]

Does this liquid problem only affect carryon luggage?
Just put liquids in your check in luggage.
Duty free will be different but they normally seal it correctly in a clear bag.
I don't carry anything in my on board backpack, liquid or otherwise to slow me down through airport checks. Belts shoes, battery chargers included.

[choi choi]

Last year I bough a bottle baileys at Heathrow airport.They asked me am I transfering to another destination..I said yes.They said I wont be able to take it on board in carry on. Previous year I did it.No problem! Its sealed in a security plastic bag. Low and behold,It was not allowed on the flight carry on at BKK
.Even though sealed!

[Whistler]

Barney,

Carry on only. The advice I got that makes sense is each container must be marked on the outside as per capacity

[sometimewoodworker]

Does this liquid problem only affect carryon luggage?
Just put liquids in your check in luggage.
Duty free will be different but they normally seal it correctly in a clear bag.
I don't carry anything in my on board backpack, liquid or otherwise to slow me down through airport checks. Belts shoes, battery chargers included.

Yes it only affects carryon luggage.
It also affects any duty free (it will always be too large) that has not been purchased in the airport where the security scan is being done.

It is almost universal for security agents to ignore any security seal of a sealed bag that doesn’t come from their airport. They have no way to ensure that the seal isn’t fake.

So if carrying bottles of liquid from duty free onto the plane you must buy in the last stop before your destination. It has been this way for all the flights I have taken, possibly in the high hundreds.

[Bandung_Dero]

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So if carrying bottles of liquid from duty free onto the plane you must buy in the last stop before your destination. It has been this way for all the flights I have taken, possibly in the high hundreds.

Or buy it at your port of arrival as most international airports have a walk through duty free before arrival formalities. OK, well, Western airports.

[sometimewoodworker]

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So if carrying bottles of liquid from duty free onto the plane you must buy in the last stop before your destination. It has been this way for all the flights I have taken, possibly in the high hundreds.

Or buy it at your port of arrival as most international airports have a walk through duty free before arrival formalities. OK, well, Western airports.

I haven’t flown into the U.K. regularly for years, however in the past there were no duty free sales inbound. Even if there are now inbound duty free it is unlikely to be much cheaper, if any, than a regular discount liquor shop.
In the past the place of choice was the UAE though that may have changed.

[jackspratt]

For those interested, it is no longer an issue on the vast majority of internal Australian domestic flights.

[Whistler]

For those interested, it is no longer an issue on the vast majority of internal Australian domestic flights.

I wish you had told that to the guys at Sydney airport last Friday morning. They were unaware of your revised policy.

Domestic yes, international flights no.

[jackspratt]

Domestic yes,

Isn't that what I wrote?

ps it is not my policy.

[Whistler]

Might have been a good idea to make clear that international flights still have restrictions.

Sure you don't dictate policy in Australia, only Udon?

[jackspratt]

Sorry you didn't understand what I wrote, Whistles - I am sure 99% of other readers would have no problem with comprehending:

For those interested, it is no longer an issue on the vast majority of internal Australian domestic flights.

Did you not bother to check the rules before you checked in?

[Whistler]

Where do you think I got the rules checked? Mid flight?

[rick]

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So if carrying bottles of liquid from duty free onto the plane you must buy in the last stop before your destination. It has been this way for all the flights I have taken, possibly in the high hundreds.

Or buy it at your port of arrival as most international airports have a walk through duty free before arrival formalities. OK, well, Western airports.

I haven’t flown into the U.K. regularly for years, however in the past there were no duty free sales inbound. Even if there are now inbound duty free it is unlikely to be much cheaper, if any, than a regular discount liquor shop.
In the past the place of choice was the UAE though that may have changed.

I can confirm that at Heathrow their is a duty free at arrival. Unfortunately the choice of brands is pathetic, rather like comparing a Tesco express to a proper supermarket.