Conservative's new leader-in-waiting

[tamada]

Well, I think his strategy is brilliant.

By pointing out problems, and tapping into the minds of the largely uninformed he hits the mark. Don't trust politicians, governments are manipulated, you are the downtrodden. Very appealing to those who agree and identify with his criticisms. This type of Libertarian approach is tapping into a huge audience who don't think through about a potential plan B, as long as they agree that plan A is not for them

Australia's Paulene Hanson is still in parliament, despite being nothing other than a winging fog horn

Nigel is like PH without the redhair.

NF is a spoiler. Has been, always will be. The UKIP, Brexit and Reform platforms have all been one-trick ponies. Right now, he's spoiling the vote for the 2024 election for both major parties.

It's not so much his brilliance as much as it is the Conservative and Labour parties being total dross.

Yes, he'll split the vote, but then abandon the 10% that swallowed his ejaculate and leave them wondering W T F was that and crying to whoever wins to help them from a fundamentally unchanged situation?

[AlexOO]

It's not so much his brilliance as much as it is the Conservative and Labour parties being total dross.
10% that swallowed his ejaculate
Bit strong Tam but fairly accurate. There's not much to choose between The Tories and Hindsights vision of Governance. Trouble is Hindsight has too many nutters just waiting in the background. We Brits tend to poo poo the USA's choices of POTUS but are we any better? Great example is Scotland under the lunatic Green Party supported SNP. A Country being forced into becoming a wasteland.

[rick]

Cannot think of one conservative Minister/MP (who i am aware of) who i would trust to make me a cup of tea. like in the USA presidential election, the favourite would be 'none of the above'.

[AlexOO]

Cannot think of one conservative Minister/MP (who i am aware of) who i would trust to make me a cup of tea. like in the USA presidential election, the favourite would be 'none of the above'.

Just remember Hindsight Starmer, just over 3 years ago was telling the world that Steptoe Corbyne and the genius Abbot were the team to get the UK back to being a 1st World Nation.

[tamada]

Here's your "new" leader.

Several of his comments and those of an MP he is quoting proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only were they deaf to the electorate these past dozen years, they remain resolutely so.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... s-13173895

[AlexO]

Here's your "new" leader.???

Several of his comments and those of an MP he is quoting proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only were they deaf to the electorate these past dozen years, they remain resolutely so.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... s-13173895

Do you really think any of the upper echelon of any political party give a jot about what Joe Average thinks. Once every 5 or so years they have to put on the plastic smile (Hindsight has got that of to a tee) soil their hands by allowing us lesser beings to actually touch them and pretend that we actually matter in their great scheme of things. Apart from that we are just about level with the stuff they occasionally have to wipe of the soles of their shoes.

[tamada]

Here's your "new" leader.???

Several of his comments and those of an MP he is quoting proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only were they deaf to the electorate these past dozen years, they remain resolutely so.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... s-13173895

Do you really think any of the upper echelon of any political party give a jot about what Joe Average thinks. Once every 5 or so years they have to put on the plastic smile (Hindsight has got that of to a tee) soil their hands by allowing us lesser beings to actually touch them and pretend that we actually matter in their great scheme of things. Apart from that we are just about level with the stuff they occasionally have to wipe of the soles of their shoes.

Sounds like a severe case of Thatcherism there.

[Drunk Monkey]

Seweralla Braverman

[tamada]

Seweralla Braverman

No, no, the other darkie bint.

(did I just say that out loud?)

[AlexO]

Here's your "new" leader.???

Several of his comments and those of an MP he is quoting proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only were they deaf to the electorate these past dozen years, they remain resolutely so.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... s-13173895

Do you really think any of the upper echelon of any political party give a jot about what Joe Average thinks. Once every 5 or so years they have to put on the plastic smile (Hindsight has got that of to a tee) soil their hands by allowing us lesser beings to actually touch them and pretend that we actually matter in their great scheme of things. Apart from that we are just about level with the stuff they occasionally have to wipe of the soles of their shoes.

Sounds like a severe case of Thatcherism there.

Oh dear, the lady has been dead for a good number of years and still some people go on about her. At least she was memorable, wonder how many people will be talking about the 50 shades of beige potato in 40 years time.

[tamada]

Here's your "new" leader.???

Several of his comments and those of an MP he is quoting proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only were they deaf to the electorate these past dozen years, they remain resolutely so.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... s-13173895

Do you really think any of the upper echelon of any political party give a jot about what Joe Average thinks. Once every 5 or so years they have to put on the plastic smile (Hindsight has got that of to a tee) soil their hands by allowing us lesser beings to actually touch them and pretend that we actually matter in their great scheme of things. Apart from that we are just about level with the stuff they occasionally have to wipe of the soles of their shoes.

Sounds like a severe case of Thatcherism there.

Oh dear, the lady has been dead for a good number of years and still some people go on about her. At least she was memorable, wonder how many people will be talking about the 50 shades of beige potato in 40 years time.

Now which member is it that goes on about Steptoe Corbyne and the genius Abbot and Bliar and Liebour all the time?... dammit, hold on. It'll come to me in a minute.

Nah, never mind. It must be memorable for him though, or he wouldn't keep banging on about them.

[AlexO]

Now which member is it that goes on about Steptoe Corbyne and the genius Abbot and Bliar and Liebour all the time?... dammit, hold on. It'll come to me in a minute.

Nah, never mind. It must be memorable for him though, or he wouldn't keep banging on about them.

If memory serves me correctly, none of those you mentioned are deed are they? Liebour is not a person, its a bad dream but not a person.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

The lady was not for turning with the exception of Hong Kong.

Most of the world thought Thatcher was an excellent leader. That view did not seem to be held by disgruntled leftists in the U.K. They still want to beat her with a stick when they get upset and see red. It seems to irk them that many new home owners were pleased with her housing policy. Of course, the coal miners who forgot they were not elected to run a government led by Scargill, were also upset for her refusal to see things their way.

[tamada]

... That view did not seem to be held by disgruntled leftists in the U.K. ...

And most Scots for her infamous imposition of poll tax north of Hadrian's first.

That 'bout right Alex?

[Laan Yaa Mo]

The Iron Lady as a visionary,

Thatcher’s brand of fiscal conservatism and as an advocate for trade liberalization served as an example to small-c conservatives in Canada who, during the 1980’s, were beginning to form similar notions of smaller government, said Manning.

“It was helpful to have somebody on the international stage that was saying the same thing,” said Manning, president and CEO at the conservative Manning Centre for Building Democracy.

“Because you could say, this isn’t just some eccentric idea coming out of a few folks in Alberta, this is an issue that’s being addressed by some of the biggest governments in the world.”

Known as the Iron Lady, Thatcher was defined by her uncompromising convictions on everything from ending the welfare state in Britain to dismantling trade unions.

“Like every great leader, with strong convictions and a bold vision, she made enemies. Some Canadians were unconvinced by her approach,” Mulroney said in a statement.

“But in a series of visits to Canada she won many friends here. By her final visit in 1988 she was recognized as the founder of modern Conservatism, a leader who had dragged her country from the brink of economic and social crisis, and a beacon of strong principled leadership to the world.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/464244/marga ... ervatives/

[tamada]

... It seems to irk them that many new home owners were pleased with her housing policy. ...

The right-to-buy was an excellent concept, that pleased many taking up the option early. However, in conjunction with an unwillingness to invest in more social housing (admittedly not unique to Tory administrations), it ultimately led to localized "pressured" housing markets where the right-to-buy was denied. The policy, along with private interests, laid the foundation for the problem of first-time buyers getting their proverbial "foot on the housing ladder" as well as fueling the "buy-to-let" bubble and the knock-on of "no fault" evictions.

[AlexO]

... That view did not seem to be held by disgruntled leftists in the U.K. ...

And most Scots for her infamous imposition of poll tax north of Hadrian's first.

That 'bout right Alex?

Aye it was a bit silly trying out the Poll Tax in Scotland first, a place that is not really that 'enthusiastic' about anything Tory. That said I quite liked it, it was going to save me a fair bit of cash each month.

[AlexO]

Forgot to say with the exception of the right to buy policy. Had many a 'discussion' with me old dad who vehemently hated the Tories but happily accepted buying his cooncil hoose.

[tamada]

Forgot to say with the exception of the right to buy policy. Had many a 'discussion' with me old dad who vehemently hated the Tories but happily accepted buying his cooncil hoose.

Case in point: my dad who did vote Tory, was unfortunate to live in a "pressured" housing zone and was thus denied that right.

[AlexO]

Forgot to say with the exception of the right to buy policy. Had many a 'discussion' with me old dad who vehemently hated the Tories but happily accepted buying his cooncil hoose.

Case in point: my dad who did vote Tory, was unfortunate to live in a "pressured" housing zone and was thus denied that right.

Always brings a smile to my boat race when that policy is blamed for the housing shortage. Would bet a fair wedge that nearly all of the previous council owned housing are fully occupied so they would never have been available even if the councils still owned them. Simple lack of building in line with population increases especially in England is to blame. Same as the NHS, prison services etc. Liebours new policy of changing green belt rules etc might have a short term effect on availability but long term, dont think so. Developers want short term returns on their money so building 'affordable' low cost housing for affordable rents are not really high on their agenda.