Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

[jackspratt]

For those who may be wondering what is happening next door, and dismiss it as a side issue to Gaza.

It seems the terrorists are not all on one side.

Israeli security chief condemns ‘terrorism’ of militant settlers

The head of Israel’s security agency, Shin Bet, has warned the country’s leaders that Jewish terrorism in the West Bank is out of control and has become a serious threat to national security.

Ronen Bar issued the warning in a letter to the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, the attorney general and members of the Israeli cabinet, some of whom are outspoken backers of the extremist settlers responsible for the escalating violence.....

...... Bar’s letter focused on Jewish extremists known as the “hilltop youth”, violent militants who have been conducting a campaign of murder, arson and intimidation against Palestinians on the West Bank, aimed at driving them from their land, furthering the far right’s pursuit of complete annexation.

Bar said their actions should not be described as criminality but as terrorism.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... -west-bank

[AlexO]

For those who may be wondering what is happening next door, and dismiss it as a side issue to Gaza.

It seems the terrorists are not all on one side.

Israeli security chief condemns ‘terrorism’ of militant settlers

The head of Israel’s security agency, Shin Bet, has warned the country’s leaders that Jewish terrorism in the West Bank is out of control and has become a serious threat to national security.

Ronen Bar issued the warning in a letter to the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, the attorney general and members of the Israeli cabinet, some of whom are outspoken backers of the extremist settlers responsible for the escalating violence.....

...... Bar’s letter focused on Jewish extremists known as the “hilltop youth”, violent militants who have been conducting a campaign of murder, arson and intimidation against Palestinians on the West Bank, aimed at driving them from their land, furthering the far right’s pursuit of complete annexation.

Bar said their actions should not be described as criminality but as terrorism.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... -west-bank

And did you not stop to think just how on earth the Guardian managed exclusively to get hold of/or knowledge of a alleged letter from the Head of National Security in Israel to the Prime Minister of Israel. Did he send it by a secure network or just pop it into the nearest post box.

[jackspratt]

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/backing-s ... -security/

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-815963

Have you never heard of strategic leaks before?

[AlexO]

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/backing-s ... -security/

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-815963

Have you never heard of strategic leaks before?

Another deflection Pratty. Both articles not even anywhere near the nonsense article from the Guardian of Lies.
Do you ever read the links you post as facts supporting your pathetic acceptance of everything published that is anti-Israel.
Just highlight where either of the above links talk about letters from the two people identified in the G.

Have you never heard of strategic leaks before?
Yes of course, normally referred to as LIES by normal people.

[jackspratt]

Oh dear! ...... it's worse than I thought.

Just highlight where either of the above links talk about letters from the two people identified in the G.

Shin Bet Director Ronen Bar on Thursday sent a letter to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warning that recent Jewish terror actions, such as the massive attack on the northern West Bank Palestinian village of Jit, have put the country on the brink of disaster, said a Channel 12 report.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-815963

and

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant assailed National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir on Friday, in the wake of a letter by Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar on Thursday that accused Ben Gvir of helping cause “indescribable damage” to Israel by encouraging Jewish extremists in the West Bank and elsewhere.....
..... In Bar’s letter, sent to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Gallant, and several other government ministers,.....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/backing-s ... -security/

[AlexO]

So it's not just a letter to your favourite Statesman but a cover your ass report to many from the new Head of Ben Gvir of extremist damage in the West Bank (probably not far from the truth).
The fact that the West Bank is not Palestine seems to have gone over your head again.

[jackspratt]

So it's not just a letter to your favourite Statesman but a cover your ass report to many from the new Head of Ben Gvir of extremist damage in the West Bank (probably not far from the truth).
The fact that the West Bank is not Palestine seems to have gone over your head again.

I believe he called them terrorists, not extremists.

And speaking of terrorists, Ben Gvir is one, holding a senior cabinet post in Netanyahu's government.

[AlexO]

So it's not just a letter to your favourite Statesman but a cover your ass report to many from the new Head of Ben Gvir of extremist damage in the West Bank (probably not far from the truth).
The fact that the West Bank is not Palestine seems to have gone over your head again.

I believe he called them terrorists, not extremists.

And speaking of terrorists, Ben Gvir is one, holding a senior cabinet post in Netanyahu's government.

Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar on Thursday that accused Ben Gvir of helping cause “indescribable damage” to Israel by encouraging Jewish extremists in the West Bank and elsewhere.

Itamar Ben-Gvir is an Israeli far-right politician and lawyer who has served as the Minister of National Security since 2022. Wikipedia

So if you dont accept everything in the Guardian and ABC as absolutely unbiased and factual you are Far-Right and therefor a terrorist according to your sources/views.

[tamada]

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-816557

[fdimike]

Israel is a pariah state which is practic9ing murder, & genocide against a primarily unarmed people for some 80 years. Their sole purpose is to drag the US into a major war in the ME on their behalf. Biden & his ass kissing buddy Netanyahu should be tried for war crimes and the sooner the better. The saddest part of it all is that the US has lost one its basic principals known as "checks & balances" and as such there's no part of the government available to stop it. Both Republican and Democratic candidates are as useful as the proverbial "teats on a boar hog" in this regard as well. Let's not forget that Israel is the only nuclear armed state in the ME with some 20 nuclear warheads which they refuse to admit to and allow international inspection.

[AlexO]

Israel is a pariah state which is practic9ing murder, & genocide against a primarily unarmed people for some 80 years. Their sole purpose is to drag the US into a major war in the ME on their behalf. Biden & his ass kissing buddy Netanyahu should be tried for war crimes and the sooner the better. The saddest part of it all is that the US has lost one its basic principals known as "checks & balances" and as such there's no part of the government available to stop it. Both Republican and Democratic candidates are as useful as the proverbial "teats on a boar hog" in this regard as well. Let's not forget that Israel is the only nuclear armed state in the ME with some 20 nuclear warheads which they refuse to admit to and allow international inspection.

Been 3 days now since your rant, how many have Israel managed to murder in their Genoicial efforts?
Just remind people how inefficient the IDF are. 11 months of war around 40K unconfirmed casualties mostly the heartbreaking children and women according to who? Genocide?
Huge numbers of journalists and UN AId workers killed but no names or agency confirmations.
No Combattens?
No wonder Goebbels was a star in a Despot Society.

[fdimike]

I don't answer useless posts by neocons.

[tamada]

... Let's not forget that Israel is the only nuclear armed state in the ME with some 20 nuclear warheads which they refuse to admit to and allow international inspection.

For which we are eternally grateful.

Can you imagine if the world decided to trust Iran, Iraq or Syria with an equal amount of nuclear warheads so that certain misguided souls could claim that it's all "fair and balanced" over there in the middle east?

Can you?

[tamada]

[Redacted]

As for the mad Mullahs' being denied nuclear weapons and who should feel more secure for it , the "free world" is your starter for ten.

[jackspratt]

You may be "eternally grateful" for Israel having nuclear weapons - many people aren't.

Hence the "we" reference.

That is a very different issue to the mad Mullahs not having them.

[AlexO]

I don't answer useless posts by neocons.

Wow a new word . First time I have been accused of that.
Tam, please note.
What he really means is he cannot back up his rantings, just making statements is all that is required in his point of view. A bit like believing everything the Hamas propaganda machine churns out.

[tamada]

"Israeli American hostage Hersh Goldberg-Polin confirmed dead by family and White House.

The family of Hersh Goldberg-Polin, 23, who was kidnapped by Hamas on Oct. 7, said he had been killed. Their statement came after the Israeli military announced it had located a number of dead bodies in Gaza. ..."

From Wapo... do your own googling.

For those that still believe that Hamas earnestly wants to trade Israeli hostages for peace, wake the f*** up.

[Whistler]

Hamas has no intention of accepting any peace deal. Their playground has been devastated whie many of its leaders live live in luxury hotels in countries well away from Gaza. If it gives up its hostages it has no leverage. It does not care for the people of Gaza, it sits back while Israel play into their game. Israel gets a black eye for its brutality, Hamas wins the propaganda war. Israeli government is dumb, it should rebuild and control Gaza, not smash it into fragments.

[AlexO]

Hamas wins the propaganda war. Israeli government is dumb.

Only if you are incredibly stupid.
Goebbels Feb 1945. We are winning the great fight.

[tamada]

The IDF claims these hostages were killed shortly before their bodies were discovered.

I'm sure the "Where's the proof?" apologists for Hamas will be along presently.