Covid on its way back

[AlexO]

Maybe your 'insider knowledge' is greater than mine Tam but cannot remember a slimy bugger ever telling hospitals etc how to play the isolation game.
Jeez, even Joe Public was allowed out to shop and exercise/buy booze etc albeit for limited periods each day.

The slimy bugger in question was the one that ordered the transfer of the elderly into facilities that ultimately exposed them to a higher risk of contracting Covid, after which many were infected, succumbed and died. The health professionals that you claim were making their own decisions about isolation in hospitals didn't say no. With very few exceptions, they did as they were told, like most all the sheeple did.

And there was me thinking it was that denizen of Socialism, Sturgeon who did that.
Medics decided what isolation policies were carried out in hospitals with some having marked different requirements even within the same Heath Trust areas. They did the risk analysis based on staff safety and type of patient care requirements. Politico's dont have the brains to dictate to experts, they take advice from experts.

[Doodoo]

COVID fall guide: The new variant in town, when to get vaccinated and what to do if you get sick

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/covid-f ... 27410.html

[tamada]

And there was me thinking it was that denizen of Socialism, Sturgeon who did that.
Medics decided what isolation policies were carried out in hospitals with some having marked different requirements even within the same Heath Trust areas. They did the risk analysis based on staff safety and type of patient care requirements. Politico's dont have the brains to dictate to experts, they take advice from experts.

There's a YouTube from @ledbydonkeys that covers the then UK government's stellar performance on "taking advice from experts" when Covid kicked off. I was unaware that Boris missed the first five emergency COBRA meetings on Covid but his cohorts muddled through and thousands died unnecessarily.

[AlexO]

And there was me thinking it was that denizen of Socialism, Sturgeon who did that.
Medics decided what isolation policies were carried out in hospitals with some having marked different requirements even within the same Heath Trust areas. They did the risk analysis based on staff safety and type of patient care requirements. Politico's dont have the brains to dictate to experts, they take advice from experts.

There's a YouTube from @ledbydonkeys that covers the then UK government's stellar performance on "taking advice from experts" when Covid kicked off. I was unaware that Boris missed the first five emergency COBRA meetings on Covid but his cohorts muddled through and thousands died unnecessarily.

Tam
Apart from Sweden who else in the Western World did anything more/less than what the UK did. Some were quicker to implement, some were slower. A PM attending a COBRA meeting or not does not mean he is not briefed by his minions who do attend. Just what do you think Boris could have contributed in an emergency medical meeting.
What was Starlins contribution as an effective opposition leader, keep everything shut down longer, maybe because his biggest supporting unions members were all sitting at home doing nought except pick up full salaries. Yes/No

[tamada]

And there was me thinking it was that denizen of Socialism, Sturgeon who did that.
Medics decided what isolation policies were carried out in hospitals with some having marked different requirements even within the same Heath Trust areas. They did the risk analysis based on staff safety and type of patient care requirements. Politico's dont have the brains to dictate to experts, they take advice from experts.

There's a YouTube from @ledbydonkeys that covers the then UK government's stellar performance on "taking advice from experts" when Covid kicked off. I was unaware that Boris missed the first five emergency COBRA meetings on Covid but his cohorts muddled through and thousands died unnecessarily.

Tam
Apart from Sweden who else in the Western World did anything more/less than what the UK did. Some were quicker to implement, some were slower. A PM attending a COBRA meeting or not does not mean he is not briefed by his minions who do attend. Just what do you think Boris could have contributed in an emergency medical meeting.
What was Starlins contribution as an effective opposition leader, keep everything shut down longer, maybe because his biggest supporting unions members were all sitting at home doing nought except pick up full salaries. Yes/No

Some were quicker and some, like the UK, were slower and accordingly suffered worse. Good to see you admit that Boris was piss useless as a leader though. Totally superfluous and while he was away arranging his divorce, he let his sock puppets run the show in absentia, IGNORING THE PROFESSIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC ADVICE. So we agree on something then: a true Kodak moment.

Stop deflecting with this "but Labour" tripe, you know it's not good for you and we all know you're pretty rubbish at it anyways. BTW, they weren't in charge so your hypotheticals are quite meaningless.

[AlexO]

And there was me thinking it was that denizen of Socialism, Sturgeon who did that.
Medics decided what isolation policies were carried out in hospitals with some having marked different requirements even within the same Heath Trust areas. They did the risk analysis based on staff safety and type of patient care requirements. Politico's dont have the brains to dictate to experts, they take advice from experts.

There's a YouTube from @ledbydonkeys that covers the then UK government's stellar performance on "taking advice from experts" when Covid kicked off. I was unaware that Boris missed the first five emergency COBRA meetings on Covid but his cohorts muddled through and thousands died unnecessarily.

Tam
Apart from Sweden who else in the Western World did anything more/less than what the UK did. Some were quicker to implement, some were slower. A PM attending a COBRA meeting or not does not mean he is not briefed by his minions who do attend. Just what do you think Boris could have contributed in an emergency medical meeting.
What was Starlins contribution as an effective opposition leader, keep everything shut down longer, maybe because his biggest supporting unions members were all sitting at home doing nought except pick up full salaries. Yes/No

Some were quicker and some, like the UK, were slower and accordingly suffered worse. Good to see you admit that Boris was piss useless as a leader though. Totally superfluous and while he was away arranging his divorce, he let his sock puppets run the show in absentia, IGNORING THE PROFESSIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC ADVICE. So we agree on something then: a true Kodak moment.

Stop deflecting with this "but Labour" tripe, you know it's not good for you and we all know you're pretty rubbish at it anyways. BTW, they weren't in charge so your hypotheticals are quite meaningless.

Pretty Poor response from someone who isn't a commie or Guardian luvvie.
Not one fact just the usual hate the Tories no matter what, garbage.
Good to see nothing really changes.

[tamada]

For someone who claims to have only voted Tory once, that's an awfy big blue candle you're carrying there pal.

...and over to Alex for tonight's "last word".

[AlexO]

Your assertions that Boris was sorting out his divorce is backed up by what evidence?
How many COBRA meetings were held while Boris was in hospital with Covid, did the G not tell you that?
Will not be the last word, you dont do that.
Told you not ever a Tory but can never believe the Liebour Party again.
Perhaps a political agnostic is a better description.

[tamada]

COVID fall guide: The new variant in town, when to get vaccinated and what to do if you get sick

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/covid-f ... 27410.html

Have any of these latest variants reported in North America and Europe been seen in Thailand yet? If not, it's assumed that "high season" visitors may bring it here?

In my line of work, where contractors are shuttling thousands of workers to and from all corners of the globe every six weeks, the mandatory 2 shots + 1 booster rule from 2022 still applies. Not sure how many crew members have added to that basic tally, be it through localized outbreaks or their home country's recommendations. I'll ask the medic on my next trip as we all have to file updated health, medical and immunization info as part of the signing-on.

[FrazeeDK]

I'm visiting the States now in North Carolina. It is here and infecting people. Right now, my grandson and granddaughter have it. Attended a reunion and a fellow from Washington state couldn't come since his elderly mother had COVID. Another old comrade in Florida couldn't come because he had it.. Just waiting now to see if the grandson (isolated in his bedroom) has infected the wife and me.... Arghghgh!

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectious ... physician.

as for Thailand, this is the latest news I found:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... next-surge

[tamada]

I'm visiting the States now in North Carolina. It is here and infecting people. Right now, my grandson and granddaughter have it. Attended a reunion and a fellow from Washington state couldn't come since his elderly mother had COVID. Another old comrade in Florida couldn't come because he had it.. Just waiting now to see if the grandson (isolated in his bedroom) has infected the wife and me.... Arghghgh!

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectious ... physician.

as for Thailand, this is the latest news I found:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... next-surge

Stay safe over there. The "game over" Thai virologist quoted in the BP is saying the existing strains are all Omicron variants. These KP, XEC and FLiRT variants mentioned in the yahoo/health link appear to be unknown or so far unidentified over here?

[Potamoi]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 049686007/

I hope there is a complete lookback on all the Fauci lead big pharma BS.

[tamada]

Why do some states feel the need to ban something that's only federally recommended?

In the UK, it's up to the individual if they want to take more Covid shots. My buddy follows the NHS "recommended" boosters, whereas I chose to ignore them. Probably the same here in Thailand, no?

[AlexO]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 049686007/

I hope there is a complete lookback on all the Fauci lead big pharma BS.

Did big Pharma invent Covid?
They came up with a vaccine that undoubtedly saved lives.
Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

[Udon Map]

Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

Anyone addressing this question ought to start by defining "excessive".

[tamada]

Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

Anyone addressing this question ought to start by defining "excessive".

The uncombined net worth of the following maybe?

Elon Musk: Net Worth Around $200 Billion.
Jeff Bezos: Net Worth Around $195 Billion.
Mark Zuckerberg: Net Worth Around $180 Billion.
Larry Ellison: Net Worth Around $140 Billion.
Warren Buffet: Net Worth Around $133 Billion.
Bill Gates: Net Worth Around $130 Billion.

[Udon Map]

Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

Anyone addressing this question ought to start by defining "excessive".

The uncombined net worth of the following maybe?

I believe that we were talking about big pharma.

[tamada]

Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

Anyone addressing this question ought to start by defining "excessive".

The uncombined net worth of the following maybe?

I believe that we were talking about big pharma.

Ah, OK.

Don't panic, RFK Jr's gonna whip 'em into line.

[AlexO]

Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

Anyone addressing this question ought to start by defining "excessive".

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ancer-drug
Cannot be certain about how much the USA hospital on-costs are but I paid 8k baht for the generic version last month at Udon General (so twice the real price, with UG's current pricing policy).
In my book thats eye wateringly excessive.

[Stantheman]

Are they making excessive profits, thats another question.

Anyone addressing this question ought to start by defining "excessive".

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ancer-drug
Cannot be certain about how much the USA hospital on-costs are but I paid 8k baht for the generic version last month at Udon General (so twice the real price, with UG's current pricing policy).
In my book thats eye wateringly excessive.

As an FYI, I can get a 30 day supply of the pill Orgovyx, if I needed it, mentioned in the article for $43 here in the U.S. using my Tricare military benefit