The US's struggle against disinformation

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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by AlexO » September 18, 2024, 5:15 pm

jackspratt wrote:
September 18, 2024, 1:16 pm
Interesting dilemma for someone proposing that there is only information, and no misinformation or disinformation.

Where/how do you classify AI created deepfake images and other media?

Is it even "information", and should it be controlled or just let run rampant?
Just think about what you have posted there Jack. :-"



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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by jackspratt » September 18, 2024, 5:21 pm

I usually think before I post, Alex.

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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by Declan MacPherson » September 18, 2024, 9:38 pm

Doodoo wrote:
September 18, 2024, 3:08 pm
How do you know its not state controlled?
In the US, there are laws against phony balance sheet reporting of publicly traded companies. The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) handles that.

As you stated before, "So, we never know if the Media is being controlled or not."

As I stated before, "It actually means that all voices must be heard TO GET TO THE TRUTH, and that we cannot depend on the media (as you admit) -- whether the media is state-run or not -- to tell us the truth."

And we can't trust government to tell us the truth either.

You are doing an excellent job of making the case why all voices should be heard.
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by tamada » September 19, 2024, 10:45 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
September 18, 2024, 9:38 pm
Doodoo wrote:
September 18, 2024, 3:08 pm
How do you know its not state controlled?
In the US, there are laws against phony balance sheet reporting of publicly traded companies. The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) handles that.

As you stated before, "So, we never know if the Media is being controlled or not."

As I stated before, "It actually means that all voices must be heard TO GET TO THE TRUTH, and that we cannot depend on the media (as you admit) -- whether the media is state-run or not -- to tell us the truth."

And we can't trust government to tell us the truth either.

You are doing an excellent job of making the case why all voices should be heard.
The head of the SEC is a political nomination.

Law breaking is determined in courts of law where politically nominated judges rule.

The SCOTUS, the ultimate determinants of what the laws can and cannot do, is stuffed with political nominees.

Sorry, back on topic. Who's controlling mainstream media? Who's controlling the voices you're listening to?
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by tamada » September 19, 2024, 7:16 pm

There's an opinion that the following wasn't getting any air time in mainstream media. There's an opinion that because it's related to Trump, it's getting buried.

I have no opinions on what happened or the reporting of it.

https://arizonaglobe.com/fl/tucson-trum ... s-illness/
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by Whistler » September 22, 2024, 11:17 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
September 18, 2024, 8:12 am
Whistler wrote:
September 18, 2024, 7:56 am
By implication Declan my old son. You think he has a right to free speech. You obviously admire Trump, but he deceived Eve, it's all over the internet. Talk to this to your minister, he may give you the moral guidance that you are in great need of.
So you believe in the Bible and the existence of Satan? That's good.

But this isn't about Satan or Trump or admiring either one. I don't admire Trump; and I call him out on wrongheaded ideas that he proposes. But like I said, this isn't about any of that.

You continue to fail the challenge. Your posts aren't even about state-controlled media.


You seem to spend every waking hour coming after me. For that reason and others, I am unlikely to take any spiritual advice from someone whose posts are so laced with vile vindictiveness.

But that's okay. You have the freedom of speech.
Nope not religious of any flavour. I do seem to remember that lying was not high up on the list of virtues, and one of Mr Moses tablets had a thing about bearing false witness. The Evangelical MFA crowd seem to ignore those bits.
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by Declan MacPherson » September 22, 2024, 4:40 pm

Whistler wrote:
September 22, 2024, 11:17 am
Nope not religious of any flavour.
And yet, like so many other Leftists, you feel qualified to lecture others on topics that you mock and reject:
Spirituality, Faith, the Bible, Religion, etc.

It's always hilarious when I run across those like you.

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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by tamada » September 22, 2024, 6:34 pm

Laughing eagles.

Pithy stuff indeed.
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by Whistler » September 23, 2024, 10:12 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
September 22, 2024, 4:40 pm
Whistler wrote:
September 22, 2024, 11:17 am
Nope not religious of any flavour.
And yet, like so many other Leftists, you feel qualified to lecture others on topics that you mock and reject:
Spirituality, Faith, the Bible, Religion, etc.

It's always hilarious when I run across those like you.


hilarious.jpg
Spot on. Bird brains.
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by tamada » October 20, 2024, 11:53 am

More of the same. After polymarket poll initially indicated Trump would have a commanding win.

https://polymarket.com/event/presidenti ... l-election

Large bets in election prediction market are from overseas, source says - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/large- ... 024-10-18/

https://www.newsweek.com/polymarket-pre ... rt-1971589
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by tamada » October 20, 2024, 11:54 am

However, the 'conventional' polls are suggesting the Democrats are doom'd.

https://www.newsweek.com/election-2024- ... rs-1971077
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Re: The US's struggle against disinformation

Post by tamada » November 3, 2024, 8:39 am

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