White Culture

[Kenr6583]

The Nazis were a far-right group. Nothing anyone says can change that fact.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

The Kowloon Walled City was demolished in 1994. For a few decades prior to that (1950-1970). it was run by triads (gangsters). Now, of course, China keeps a close watch on how the Hong Kong Government runs the area. The continuum might be out-of-date.

[Udon Map]

authoritarian, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition and subordination of individual interests. All of which explains why they were allies with Nazis.

Sounds very much like Trump's own statements about his second term if he wins. Let's see . . . .

authoritarian -- He's made it clear that there will be centralized decision making by him, departments will lose their autonomy.

characterized by a dictatorial leader -- He said that he'll be a dictator on the first day. Democracy be damned, apparently.

centralized autocracy -- See "authoritarian" above.

militarism -- He has said that he will invoke the Insurrection Act to use the military domestically against those who oppose him.

forcible suppression of opposition -- He has said that he's going to prosecute his political opponents.

Food for thought.

[Declan MacPherson]

I have yet to see anyone explain how their Nazis and fascists can be opposite on the continuum from the other immoral, authoritarian, oppressive and totalitarian regimes of communism, Marxism and socialism. Where do they fit on the right side of the continuum that is smaller government, more free and with less regulation?

To those claiming that Nazis are right wing 'just because', that's not an explanation. Nor do they provide a continuum outlining it.

For those seeking to invoke Hong Kong, it isn't shown on the continuum; and how the CCP treats Hong Kong is not indicative of how the Chinese people live in the rest of the country.

For those who want to make this thread about Trump, it's not about him either; but if they want to characterize Trump as a Leftist, up to them. Free speech and all that; but I'm sure the mods wonder why so many threads end up being about Trump.

Food for thought.

[Declan MacPherson]

So are you saying that the Woke lefties in America are less intelligent or less progressive than Woke lefties from other parts of the world?

Excellent question.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

For those seeking to invoke Hong Kong, it isn't shown on the continuum; and how the CCP treats Hong Kong is not indicative of how the Chinese people live in the rest of the country.

Yes, but the Kowloon Walled City is included on the continuum for some reason, and the Kowloon Walled City was part of Hong Kong.

[jackspratt]

[Laan Yaa Mo]

An Australian friend of mine is a vice-principal at a Toronto high school and has been for over five years. He can't get a position as a principal because he refuses to accept the uninformed, stupid, uneducated and unenlightened woke culture of the Toronto District School Board. He wrote, '’m still not a principal because I hate woke culture …. I have a boy who thinks he’s a girl and asks for tampons because he is bleeding .'

[AlexO]

The Nazis were a far-right group. Nothing anyone says can change that fact.

But what was the difference in the Far Left Stalin led party policies. No argument, just say what the differences were.

[anefarious1]

authoritarian, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition and subordination of individual interests. All of which explains why they were allies with Nazis.

Sounds very much like Trump's own statements about his second term if he wins. Let's see . . . .

authoritarian -- He's made it clear that there will be centralized decision making by him, departments will lose their autonomy.

characterized by a dictatorial leader -- He said that he'll be a dictator on the first day. Democracy be damned, apparently.

centralized autocracy -- See "authoritarian" above.

militarism -- He has said that he will invoke the Insurrection Act to use the military domestically against those who oppose him.

forcible suppression of opposition -- He has said that he's going to prosecute his political opponents.

Food for thought.

Just this weekend...

Former President Trump slammed Fox News in front of a crowd of supporters at a rally in Wisconsin on Saturday, ripping the news outlet for airing Vice President Harris’s remarks after visiting part of the southern border in Arizona on Friday.

“I have to sit there and listen to her bulls— last night. And who puts it on? Fox News, and they shouldn’t be allowed to put it on,” Trump said, adding that everything Harris said “is a lie.”

You there Declan? Is that okay with you? Always talking up freedom of speech this, freedom of speech that... your views are antithetical to fascism blah blah blah yet your hero wants to control the media like Xi and Putin both of whom he frequently admires publicly! There'd be constant calls for a lynching if Obama had said this. It's like MAGA is suffering from a unique form of Stockholm syndrome. They haven't been physically captured but the rational mind has! Let's hear the defense Declan!

[Kenr6583]

The Nazis were a far-right group. Nothing anyone says can change that fact.

But what was the difference in the Far Left Stalin led party policies. No argument, just say what the differences were.

Stalinism was based on communism and socialism, a classless society. Nazism rejected those ideologies. Nazis were anti-communist.

[AlexO]

The Nazis were a far-right group. Nothing anyone says can change that fact.

But what was the difference in the Far Left Stalin led party policies. No argument, just say what the differences were.

Stalinism was based on communism and socialism, a classless society. Nazism rejected those ideologies. Nazis were anti-communist.

Was Stalinism a classless society or was it just the lumpen masses had to be classless. Both were opposite ends of the political spectrum but they used the same methods to ensure they maintained CONTROL over their respective populations.

[Declan MacPherson]

Both were opposite ends of the political spectrum

I agree with your statement in general.

But they are on the same end of the political spectrum -- total government control (totalitarian, oppressive, immoral and authoritarian). They just went about their tyranny in slightly different ways and called it a different name. If communists had called themselves Nazis, you'd think they were Nazis.

It's only Tyrannical Nuance -- like all of what I call the five (Marxism, fascism, Nazism, socialism, communism).

Just because Hitler said he hated communism, doesn't mean Nazis were not the same in their tyranny. Hitler saw Stalin as a threat because they both coveted world dominance.

[AlexO]

Both were opposite ends of the political spectrum

I agree with your statement in general.

But they are on the same end of the political spectrum -- total government control (totalitarian, oppressive, immoral and authoritarian). They just went about their tyranny in slightly different ways and called it a different name. If communists had called themselves Nazis, you'd think they were Nazis.

It's only Tyrannical Nuance -- like all of what I call the five (Marxism, fascism, Nazism, socialism, communism).

Just because Hitler said he hated communism, doesn't mean Nazis were not the same in their tyranny. Hitler saw Stalin as a threat because they both coveted world dominance.

Agree, wholeheartedly. Thats why I question lefties thinking that anyone who oppose their Woke nonsense must be Fascist or Nazi, they are not clever enough to recognise that its all about control of the people by those at the top.

[Declan MacPherson]

Agree, wholeheartedly. Thats why I question lefties thinking that anyone who oppose their Woke nonsense must be Fascist or Nazi, they are not clever enough to recognise that its all about control of the people by those at the top.

You get it.

[Kenr6583]

The Nazis were a far-right group. Nothing anyone says can change that fact.

But what was the difference in the Far Left Stalin led party policies. No argument, just say what the differences were.

Stalinism was based on communism and socialism, a classless society. Nazism rejected those ideologies. Nazis were anti-communist.

Was Stalinism a classless society or was it just the lumpen masses had to be classless. Both were opposite ends of the political spectrum but they used the same methods to ensure they maintained CONTROL over their respective populations.

All governments have similar methods to CONTROL the populace.

[Declan MacPherson]

All governments have similar methods to CONTROL the populace.

If all forms of government were the same, they'd all be Left. They're not.

[Kenr6583]

All governments have similar methods to CONTROL the populace.

If all forms of government were the same, they'd all be Left. They're not.


Left Right continuum.jpg

A chart cannot change the definition of a word.

[jackspratt]

Left Right continuum.jpg

Without even looking closer, there is at least one glaring error in that chart.

Australia has 1x Federal government, 6 x State, and 2 x Territory.

Of the 9, 7 are Labor governments - which even by Australian standards, are considered to be centre-left politically.

By Declan's, and other deeply conservative Americans standards, I can safely predict they would be considered deep left.

[Declan MacPherson]

A chart cannot change the definition of a word.

The chart contains no definitions. Examples are not definitions.

Saying that Nazis are right wing "just because" does not make it so; and you continually fail to show the readers where the Nazis fall to the right on the continuum.