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Post by Udon Map » October 5, 2024, 8:00 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 5, 2024, 7:07 pm
Udon Map wrote:
October 5, 2024, 7:00 pm
Georgia Governor Kemp's statement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78zi69WMwg&t=48s
You don't know the players either.

Kemp is another member -- organizer -- of the Sea Island Group. He's a RAT.
And that's relevant, how? Are you suggesting that he fabricated his phone call with President Biden and that it didn't actually happen?



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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 5, 2024, 8:01 pm

For those seeking Republican party guidance

The Elected Republican Party Factions

1 - GOPe Mush RATs are the backstabbers who vote with DemoKKKrats.

2 - RepubliCANTS are the cowards who are afraid to do anything for fear of being blackmailed or called names by the Leftist Thug Media and Democrats.

There are about 190 total of these 2 groups in GOP House and Senate. They control the Republican party. Despite some of them endorsing Trump, none of them want Trump to win.

GOPe Mush RATs and RepubliCANTS have some members in the Sea Island Group that plots against America First Conservatives.

3 - The America First Conservatives -- about 40 of them total in the House and Senate -- are the only ones who represent their voters; but are blocked by the other two groups.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 5, 2024, 8:10 pm

Udon Map wrote:
October 5, 2024, 8:00 pm
And that's relevant, how? Are you suggesting that he fabricated his phone call with President Biden and that it didn't actually happen?
Answers to questions:
Relevance below. No and No.

Relevance:
No matter what is seen and said publicly, Biden and Kemp are on the same team.

You need to study up on the 3 factions of elected Republicans. Or not.
Then it will all make sense. Or not.
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Post by tamada » October 5, 2024, 8:23 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 5, 2024, 4:41 pm
jackspratt wrote:
October 5, 2024, 4:07 pm
If lying was a disqualifying event in US elections, Hillary Clinton would have been #45, and Ron DeSantis would be competing against Harris this time around.
Hillary paid for the Steele Dossier -- one of the biggest lies ever. DeSantis is part of the Sea Island Group and was summarily rejected in the GOP primary like all the others. You really don't know enough about US politics to know what you're talking about.

If "IF" was a skiff . . .


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Post by tamada » October 5, 2024, 8:25 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 5, 2024, 7:07 pm
Udon Map wrote:
October 5, 2024, 7:00 pm
Georgia Governor Kemp's statement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78zi69WMwg&t=48s
You don't know the players either.

Kemp is another member -- organizer -- of the Sea Island Group. He's a RAT.
Darn! Ok, I'll see your squinty cat and raise you an acronym.
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Post by tamada » October 5, 2024, 8:30 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 5, 2024, 8:01 pm
For those seeking Republican party guidance

The Elected Republican Party Factions

1 - GOPe Mush RATs are the backstabbers who vote with DemoKKKrats.

2 - RepubliCANTS are the cowards who are afraid to do anything for fear of being blackmailed or called names by the Leftist Thug Media and Democrats.

There are about 190 total of these 2 groups in GOP House and Senate. They control the Republican party. Despite some of them endorsing Trump, none of them want Trump to win.

GOPe Mush RATs and RepubliCANTS have some members in the Sea Island Group that plots against America First Conservatives.

3 - The America First Conservatives -- about 40 of them total in the House and Senate -- are the only ones who represent their voters; but are blocked by the other two groups.
Oh wow. I didn't realize the 40 "Bravehearts" were a mere two steps away from the deep bunker of political obscurity. Thanks for your illuminating contribution.

Maybe insurrection is their only hope?
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Post by Udon Map » October 5, 2024, 8:51 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 5, 2024, 8:10 pm
Relevance:
No matter what is seen and said publicly, Biden and Kemp are on the same team.

You need to study up on the 3 factions of elected Republicans. Or not.
No, the various "teams" or "factions" to which you're assigning people, and what team any particular person is on are totally irrelevant. I suggested that Trump is a liar, and gave as an example his latest lie, that Biden wouldn't call Governor Kemp to offer aid, that Biden was MIA regarding hurricane aid. Governor Kemp says that President Biden did call him and offered him aid. Trump lied. Period. Very simple.

Anything else is an attempted distraction from the point that I was making. Trump is a liar.

It's not a betrayal of Trump or the Republican party for a Republican governor to speak with a Democratic President about aid for the state after a natural disaster. It's a governor and a President governing. That's what they do.

If there are points you would like to make, feel free, but Trump remains a liar and you haven't refuted it.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 5, 2024, 8:53 pm

Udon Map wrote:
October 5, 2024, 8:51 pm
If there are points you would like to make, feel free
Don't ever expect me to take the time to answer any of your questions ever again.
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Post by Udon Map » October 6, 2024, 9:09 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 5, 2024, 8:53 pm
Udon Map wrote:
October 5, 2024, 8:51 pm
If there are points you would like to make, feel free
Don't ever expect me to take the time to answer any of your questions ever again.
It appears that I've committed the cardinal sin of making a negative allegation against Trump that is both demonstrably and irrefutably true.

This is the problem with Trump. You're either 100% unquestioningly loyal to him or you're out. Trump is not a Republican.

The Republican party has a long and respectable tradition in the U.S., the party of Lincoln, Rockefeller, Romney (George and Mitt), Reagan, Eisenhower, and Bush 41. Other important Republicans include Lowell Weicker, James Baker, Henry Kissinger, Bob Dole, Susan Collins, J.C. Watts, Howard Baker, Jacob Javits, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Colin Powell, -- I could go on, of course. While I often disagree with their substantive positions, what these people (and so many more) have in common is a love for the U.S. They were loyal to the country, the Constitution.

Trump labels any Republican who disagrees with him a RINO, Republican In Name Only. What Trump wants, demands, is personal loyalty, fealty, really, to him. Trump is interested in Trump, not the good or future of the country. He's running a personality cult, not a political party.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 6, 2024, 9:18 am

Udon Map wrote:
October 6, 2024, 9:09 am
It appears that I've committed the cardinal sin of making a negative allegation against Trump that is both demonstrably and irrefutably true.
My response regarding not answering any of your questions in the future has NOTHING to do with your accusations against Trump. And you'll have to figure it out on your own. Live Your Best Life.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 6, 2024, 9:26 am




"No truer test than courage under fire."

Elon Musk at the Trump Rally in Pennsylvania.
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Post by Udon Map » October 6, 2024, 9:50 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 6, 2024, 9:18 am
Udon Map wrote:
October 6, 2024, 9:09 am
It appears that I've committed the cardinal sin of making a negative allegation against Trump that is both demonstrably and irrefutably true.
My response regarding not answering any of your questions in the future has NOTHING to do with your accusations against Trump.
Of course not. :roll:

More evidence of Trump's disdain for the Constitution. Trump believes, and has stated, that networks shouldn't be allowed to carry Harris' speeches, he was particularly talking about Fox at the time.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-blast ... put-it-on/ -- Video at the top of the page.


The Constitution, however, feels differently about a free press.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 6, 2024, 10:31 am




Kamala Campaign Panicked Over Tim Walz's Lies About Being Near Tiananmen Square Protests And More?
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Post by jackspratt » October 6, 2024, 1:21 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 6, 2024, 10:31 am

Kamala Campaign Panicked Over Tim Walz's Lies About Being Near Tiananmen Square Protests And More?
Are lies considered to be information?

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Post by anefarious1 » October 6, 2024, 1:59 pm

jackspratt wrote:
October 6, 2024, 1:21 pm
Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 6, 2024, 10:31 am

Kamala Campaign Panicked Over Tim Walz's Lies About Being Near Tiananmen Square Protests And More?
Are lies considered to be information?
Only when Trump speaks to his MAGA morons!

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JD Vance speaks with media after Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania
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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 7, 2024, 7:12 pm

The RNC has filed suit against the Fulton County Georgia Elections Director, Nadine Williams, for refusing to hire trained and qualified Republican poll workers. Only 15 Republicans have been hired out of the more than 800 election staff.

According to the filing:
“As of the date of filing this Application for Emergency Writ of Mandamus, RNC, GRP and Fulton GOP believe that a total of 62 individuals on their list have applied with Defendant to work on Election Day. However, Defendant has only hired 6 of these 62 qualified workers.

A large percentage of these 62 qualified workers have never been contacted or have no idea of whether Defendant Williams intends to issue an order of appointment.

Based upon information and belief, Defendant Williams has found that 12 of the 62 individuals that are willing to work on Election Day are qualified to work the elections. However, rather than issue an appointment, Defendant Williams has put these qualified poll workers “on reserve.”

Defendant Williams has ostensibly placed the RNC, GRP and Fulton GOP’s list of qualified workers at the back of the line for Election Day work.”
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Post by tamada » October 7, 2024, 8:32 pm

Someone was blathering on about actions having consequences earlier. Forgot who it was.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 8, 2024, 8:55 am

CBS 60 Minutes

Bill Whitaker to Kamala: “You’ve changed your positions so much that no one believes anything.”

Kamala: “Well, I’m the vice president and I travel a lot.”



Kamala is the Meghan Markle of American Politics.

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Post by anefarious1 » October 8, 2024, 9:12 am

Judge for yourself whether D-Klan is a liar.

In actuality, Harris was asked how she would answer Republicans’ contention that the public did not know her because she had changed her past positions so many times.

“In the last four years, I have been vice president of the United States. And I have been traveling our country. And I have been listening to folks and seeking what is possible in terms of common ground. I believe in building consensus. We are a diverse people, geographically, regionally, in terms of where we are in our backgrounds,” Harris said. “And what the American people do want is that we have leaders who can build consensus.”

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