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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » October 13, 2024, 9:19 pm

anefarious1 wrote:
October 13, 2024, 8:39 pm
I don't know about you guys but I think Xi Jinping of China is a brilliant guy. He rules 1.4 billion people with an iron fist. I have great respect for that. Everything perfect about him. Smart, intelligent, good looks. A great gentleman!

He’s now president for life. Think about it. President for life. He's the most powerful Chinese leader in a hundred years. And he’s great. He was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe the US or Europe will give that a shot some day, the iron fist.
Since this does not seem to be a quotation from anyone in particular and there are no quotation marks, I gather these are your personal thoughts, anefarious 1.


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Post by anefarious1 » October 13, 2024, 9:31 pm

I purposely left out the quotation marks. It's more effective because Trump says insane unthinkable things and his supporters are totally unfazed. But yeah those remarks are all from Trump's mouth with the exception of "I don't know about you guys".

The odds on favorite to be the next POTUS says that type of stuff all the time. Shameful.

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Post by Drunk Monkey » October 14, 2024, 1:53 am

For god sake to all US citizens with voting power across the world please .. VOTE TRUMP
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Post by Udon Map » October 14, 2024, 8:41 am

Over 100 Republican National Security Leaders Endorse Vice President Harris
We are former national security and foreign policy officials who served in the administrations of Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and/or Donald Trump, or as Republican Members of Congress. We have served in the White House, the Departments of Defense, Treasury, State, Justice, Homeland Security, Commerce, and other agencies and in Congress.

We believe that the President of the United States must be a principled, serious, and steady leader who can advance and defend American security and values, strengthen our alliances, and protect our democracy. We expect to disagree with Kamala Harris on many domestic and foreign policy issues, but we believe that she possesses the essential qualities to serve as President and Donald Trump does not. We therefore support her election to be President.

We firmly oppose the election of Donald Trump. As President, he promoted daily chaos in government, praised our enemies and undermined our allies, politicized the military and disparaged our veterans, prioritized his personal interest above American interests, and betrayed our values, democracy, and this country’s founding documents. In our view, by inciting the violent attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021 and defending those who committed it, he has violated his oath of office and brought danger to our country. As former Vice President Pence has said "anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States."

Donald Trump’s susceptibility to flattery and manipulation by Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, unusual affinity for other authoritarian leaders, contempt for the norms of decent, ethical and lawful behavior, and chaotic national security decision-making are dangerous qualities – as many honorable Republican colleagues and military officers who served in senior national security positions in his administration have frequently testified. He is unfit to serve again as President, or indeed in any office of public trust.

Vice President Harris has demonstrated a commitment to upholding the ideals that define our nation — freedom, democracy, and rule of law. Her experience as Attorney General of California and her leadership on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and as Vice President have helped prepare her to be President.

We are prepared to support her as President because she has:
  • Consistently championed the rule of law, democracy, and our constitutional principles;
  • Pledged to “ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world” and to honor and respect those who wear the uniform;
  • Committed to sign the bipartisan Border Security package, drafted under the leadership of Republican Senator James Lankford and other Republicans, which would hire 1,500 new Customs and Border Protection personnel and provide more resources for law enforcement but was opposed by Donald Trump to avoid giving President Biden any political advantage;
  • Supported a strong NATO to stand up to Russia and protect European and American security and been firm in her support of Ukraine;
  • Declared her intention to ensure that the United States will meet the economic and military competition with China;
  • Declared her intention to “always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself” and “to take whatever action is necessary to defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists”;
  • Demonstrated that she can engage in orderly national security decision-making, without the constant drama and Cabinet turnover of the Trump Administration; and
  • Committed to appoint a Republican to her Cabinet in order to encourage a diversity of views and restore a measure of bipartisanship and comity to our domestic politics.
We appreciate that many Republicans prefer Donald Trump to Kamala Harris, for a variety of reasons. We recognize and do not disparage their potential concerns, including about some of the positions advocated by the left wing of the Democratic party. But any potential concerns pale in comparison to Donald Trump’s demonstrated chaotic and unethical behavior and disregard for our Republic’s time-tested principles of constitutional governance. His unpredictable nature is not the negotiating virtue he extols. To the contrary, in matters of national security, his demeanor invites equally erratic behavior from our adversaries, which irresponsibly threatens reckless and dangerous global consequences.

In short, Donald Trump cannot be trusted “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic . . . and bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” We believe that Kamala Harris can, and we urge other Americans to join us in supporting her.


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Kenneth Adelman, Former Director, Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, Reagan Administration
Dr. Carol C. Adelman, Former Assistant Administrator, United States Agency for International Development, Reagan Administration
Major General John Barry, USAF (Ret.), Former Military Assistant to the Secretary of Defense
Richard C. Barth, Former Assistant Secretary, Department of Homeland Security, George W. Bush Administration
Christopher Barton, Former Director, National Security Council Staff
John Bellinger, Former Legal Adviser, National Security Council, George W. Bush Administration
Admiral Kenneth Bernard, Former Special Assistant to the President, George W. Bush Administration
Mark E. Bitterman, Former Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense, George H.W. Bush Administration
Robert D. Blackwill, Former Deputy National Security Advisor and Ambassador to India, George W. Bush Administration
William Bodie, Former Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, George W. Bush Administration
Christian M.L. Bonat, Former Deputy General Counsel, Dept. of Defense, George W. Bush Administration and Obama Administration
Richard Boucher, Former Assistant Secretary of State, George W. Bush Administration
Charles W. Boustany, Jr., Former Member of Congress, Louisiana
Charles R. Bowers, Former U.S. Ambassador to Bolivia, George H.W. Bush Administration
Greg Brower, Former Assistant Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Obama and Trump Administrations
Christopher Buckley, Former Chief Speechwriter, Office of Vice President George H.W. Bush
James R. Bullington, Former U.S. Ambassador to Burundi, Reagan Administration
Richard Burt, Former U.S. Ambassador to Germany, Reagan Administration
Gahl Hodges Burt, Former Assistant to the Secretary of State, Reagan Administration
Rear Admiral Fred Byus, U.S. Navy (Ret.)
Kevin Carroll, Senior Counselor to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Donald Trump Administration
Jack C. Chow, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, George W. Bush Administration
James W. Cicconi, Former Assistant to the President & Deputy to the Chief of Staff, The White House, George H. W. Bush Administration
Peggy Cifrino, Former Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, George W. Bush Administration
Eliot A. Cohen, Former Counselor of the Dept. of State, George W. Bush Administration
Benedict S. Cohen, Former General Counsel, Dept. of the Army, George W. Bush Administration
William Cohen, Former Secretary of Defense, Clinton Administration, and U.S. Senator, Maine
Joseph J. Collins, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, George W. Bush Administration
Barbara Comstock, Former Member of Congress, Virginia
Cindy Courville, Former Ambassador to the African Union and Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs for Africa, W. Bush Administration
Chester A. Crocker, Former Assistant Secretary of State, Reagan Administration
Patrick M. Cronin, Former Assistant Administrator, United States Agency for International Development, George W. Bush Administration
Stephen W. DeVine, Former Deputy Legal Advisor, National Security Council, George W. Bush Administration
Charles Djou, Former Member of Congress, Hawaii
Michael Donley, Former Secretary of the Air Force, George W. Bush Administration and Obama Administration
Raymond F. DuBois, Former Acting Under Secretary of the Army, George W. Bush Administration
Martha E. Duncan, Former Senior Executive Service, Dept. of Defense, George W. Bush Administration and Obama Administration
Lewis A. Dunn, Former Assistant Director, Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, Reagan Administration
Eric S. Edelman, Former Under Secretary of Defense, George W. Bush Administration
Mickey Edwards, Former Member of Congress, Oklahoma
Richard A. Falkenrath, Former Deputy Assistant to the President, George W. Bush Administration
Jendayi E. Frazer, Former Ambassador to South Africa and Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, George W. Bush Administration
Aaron L. Friedberg, Former Deputy Assistant to the Vice President, George W. Bush Administration
William Gaches, Former Director of Counterterrorism, National Security Agency, George W. Bush Administration
Janice Gardner, Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, George W. Bush Administration
Stuart M. Gerson, Former Acting Attorney General of the United States, George W. Bush Administration
James K. Glassman, Former Under Secretary of State, George W. Bush Administration
Jon D. Glassman, Former Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President and Ambassador to Paraguay, George H.W. Bush Administration
David Gordon, Former Director, State Dept, Policy Planning, George W. Bush Administration
Sen. Chuck Hagel, Former Secretary of Defense, Obama Administration, and former U.S. Senator, Nebraska
Christopher Hankin, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State; Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton Administrations
Mark Harvey, Former Special Assistant to the President, Trump Administration
General Michael V. Hayden, Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, George W. Bush Administration and Obama Administrations
Carla Hills, Former U.S. Trade Representative, George H.W Bush Administration
Seth Hurwitz, Former Counsel, President's Intelligence Oversight Board, George H.W. Bush Administration
Peter Keisler, Former Acting Attorney General of the United States, George W. Bush Administration
James A. Kelly, Former Assistant Secretary of State, George W. Bush Administration
Adam Kinzinger, Former Member of Congress, Illinois
Sofia Kinzinger Former Deputy Assistant Secretary, Dept. of Homeland Security, Trump Administration
Michael V. Kostiw, Senior Advisor to the Directional of National Intelligence, Trump Administration; Republican Staff Director, Senate Armed Services Committee; Senior Advisor to the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, George W. Bush Administration
Kenneth J. Krieg, Former Under Secretary of Defense, George W. Bush Administration
James R. Kunder, Former Deputy Administrator, United States Agency for International Development, George W. Bush Administration
Brigadier General George Landis, USA, Ret., Former commander, United States Personnel Information Systems Command
Frank Lavin, Former Ambassador to Singapore and Former Under Secretary of Commerce, George W. Bush Administration
Peter Lichtenbaum, Former Assistant Secretary of Commerce, George W. Bush Administration
Rear Admiral David M. Lichtman, MD, USN (Ret.), Former Commander, National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, George H.W. Bush and Clinton Administrations
Winston Lord, Former U.S. Ambassador to China, Reagan and George H.W. Bush Administration
Steven R. Mann, Former Ambassador to Turkmenistan and Former Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary in the State Dept., Clinton and George W. Bush Administrations
Walter B. McCormick, Jr., General Counsel, Department of Transportation; Chief Legal Officer and Judge Advocate General, U.S. Coast Guard, George H.W. Bush Administration
Colonel John W. McDonald, Former Deputy Under Secretary of the Army
P. Michael McKinley, Former Ambassador to Peru, George W. Bush Administration; former Ambassador to Colombia and Afghanistan, Barack Obama Administration; former Ambassador to Brazil, Donald Trump Administration
Dan Miller, Former Member of Congress, Florida
John M. Mitnick, Former General Counsel, Dept. of Homeland Security, Trump Administration
Allen Moore, Former Under Secretary of Commerce, Reagan Administration
Alberto Mora, Former General Counsel, U.S. Information Agency, George H.W. Bush Administration; Former General Counsel, Dept. of the Navy, George W. Bush Administration
Kenneth Mortensen, Former Associate Deputy Attorney General, George W. Bush Administration
U.S. Navy (Ret.), George W. Bush Administration
John D. Negroponte, Former Director of National Intelligence and Former Deputy Secretary of State, George W. Bush Administration
Elizabeth Neumann, Former Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, Trump Administration
Sean O'Keefe, Former Secretary of the Navy, George H.W. Bush Administration; Former NASA Administrator, George W. Bush Administration
Bill Paxon, Former Member of Congress, New York
William R Piekney, Former CIA Chief of Station, Reagan Administration
Daniel M. Price, Former Deputy National Security Advisor, George W. Bush Administration
Alan Charles Raul, Former Vice Chairman, White House Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, George W. Bush Administration
Victor Reis, Former Director, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, George H.W. Bush Administration
Robert Annan Riley, Former Ambassador to Micronesia, Trump Administration
Paul Rosenzweig, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, George W. Bush Administration
Charles O. Rossotti, Former Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense; Former Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service, Clinton and George W. Bush Administrations
Nicholas Rostow, Former National Security Council Legal Adviser, Reagan and George H.W. Bush Administrations
Kori Schake, Former Deputy Director of Policy Planning, State Dept., George W. Bush Administration
Dr. Wayne A. Schroeder, Former Deputy Under Secretary of Defense, George W. Bush Administration
Gregory L. Schulte, Former Senior Director, National Security Council Staff and Ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency, George W. Bush Administration
Robert Shanks, Former Deputy Assistant Attorney General, Reagan Administration
Rep. Christopher Shays, Former Member of Congress, Connecticut
John Simon, Former Senior Director, National Security Council Staff and Ambassador to the African Union, George W. Bush Administration
Stephen Slick, Former Senior Director, National Security Council Staff, George W. Bush Administration
Mark C. Storella, Former U.S. Ambassador to Zambia, Obama Administration
William H. Taft IV, Former Deputy Secretary of Defense and Ambassador to NATO, George W. Bush Administration
Miles Taylor, Former Chief of Staff, Dept. of Homeland Security, Trump Administration
Larry D. Thompson, Former Deputy Attorney General, George W. Bush Administration
Jack Thomas Tomarchio, Former Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Homeland Security, George W. Bush Administration
Olivia Troye, Former Special Advisor to the Vice President, Trump Administration
Robert Tuttle, Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom, George W. Bush Administration
John K. Veroneau, Former Deputy U.S. Trade Representative and Former Assistant Secretary of Defense, George W. Bush and Clinton Administrations
Colonel Terry Virts, USAF (Ret.), Former NASA Astronaut, Former Commander of the International Space Station
Dr. Thomas G. Ward, Jr., Former Director of Threats, Ballistic Missile Defense Organization, Reagan and Clinton Administrations
Matthew C. Waxman, Former Principal Deputy Director, State Dept Policy Planning, George W. Bush Administration
William H. Webster, Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigations, Reagan and George H.W. Bush Administrations
William F. Weld, Former Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division, Reagan Administration
J. Robinson West, Former Assistant Secretary of Interior, Reagan Administration
Wendell L. Willkie II, Former General Counsel, Dept. of Commerce, George H.W. Bush Administration
Philip Zelikow, Former Counselor of the Dept. of State, George W. Bush Administration
Robert B. Zoellick, Former Deputy Secretary of State and U.S. Trade Representative, George W. Bush Administration; White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Under Secretary of State, George H.W. Bush Administration; Counselor to Secretary James Baker, Treasury Department, Ronald Reagan Administration

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Post by papafarang » October 14, 2024, 8:54 am

It's all fun Trumb lies blatantly, harris on the other hand lies and hides her lies. Yu'all don't seem to know they all lie, so Harris is better because she's a deceitful lier, Trumb is better because at least you know not to believe him 😂. Sadly the states this time around still can't find a real president. My choice for the lesser of two evils would be Trumb.,..that's my election Interference done.
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Post by Stantheman » October 14, 2024, 9:00 am

"Over 100 Republican National Security Leaders Endorse Vice President Harris"
Will definitely be a hit list if Trump gets elected

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Post by tamada » October 14, 2024, 1:34 pm

Getting all riled up there. I can hardly wait for the "Imperialist running dog" North Korean style of rhetoric.
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Post by tamada » October 14, 2024, 1:37 pm

Stantheman wrote:
October 14, 2024, 9:00 am
"Over 100 Republican National Security Leaders Endorse Vice President Harris"
Will definitely be a hit list if Trump gets elected
He's gonna need a bigger (and bigger) gun.
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Post by Udon Map » October 14, 2024, 1:58 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 14, 2024, 1:07 pm
An infinite list of never-Trumpers and GOP Establishment backstabbers . . . The betrayal of those endorsers . . . They are members of and/or supported by all of the Establishment backstabbers. . . . They will face retribution at some point along the way and lose their seats
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So there's no longer room for disagreement within the Republican party? It's either support Trump fully or you're a traitor?

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Post by semperfiguy » October 14, 2024, 2:19 pm

BREAKING: Over 200 retired military generals and admirals have endorsed former President Trump in an open letter.

"Donald Trump has a proven track record of success providing the most fundamental responsibilities required of a U.S. President: protecting national security, domestic safety, and the U.S. Constitution," the group who organized the letter, Flag Officers 4 America, said in a statement.

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Post by Udon Map » October 14, 2024, 2:35 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
October 14, 2024, 2:19 pm
https://flagofficers4america.com/
From the landing page of this organization:
Vote against any effort from the national level to restrict your freedom of speech, religion, assembly.
I agree completely. Unfortunately, their candidate doesn't.

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Post by jackspratt » October 14, 2024, 2:38 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
October 14, 2024, 2:19 pm
BREAKING: Over 200 retired military generals and admirals have endorsed former President Trump in an open letter.
Interesting group - I wonder how many of them are former Democrats, who have changed their minds because they see Kamala Harris as a threat to US democracy. :-k

Reading their website, it could almost be taken from the MAGA handbook eg
Over 150 retired generals and admirals (Flag Officers) have signed an open letter based on their oath to support and defend the constitution of the U.S. against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The letter states our Nation is on the precipice of losing our Constitutional Republic due to the movement coming from those believing in Socialism and Marxism which is contrary to our founding principles as defined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Nothing about turning a blind eye to a failed insurrection, however. ;)

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Post by jackspratt » October 14, 2024, 2:39 pm

Udon Map wrote:
October 14, 2024, 1:58 pm
So there's no longer room for disagreement within the Republican party? It's either support Trump fully or you're a traitor?
Something very 1933 Germany about that.

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Post by jackspratt » October 16, 2024, 1:54 pm

And yet, there are millions of Americans, including some on here, who are happy to support this lunatic. Which strongly suggests they are happy to support his own stated form of autocracy and a lesser standard of democracy for their country.
But never before has a presidential nominee — let alone a former president — openly suggested turning the military on American citizens simply because they oppose his candidacy. As he escalates his threats of political retribution, Mr. Trump is offering voters the choice of a very different, and far less democratic, form of American government.
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Post by anefarious1 » October 17, 2024, 10:19 pm

tRump is the greatest Modern Day President in the history of our great Nation. President Donald tRump is a genius; he turned a $5 million defamation judgment into an $88.3 million defamation judgment and a 15 million dollar fine into a 454 million dollar fine; the stable genius did it all in less than 12 months. And tRump managed to turn a fake university into a 25 million dollar fine and a fake foundation into a 20 million dollar fine, too. Add this to his 6 bankruptcies, 3 of which were gambling casinos where the odds go to the house, and you can see what a brilliant businessman he truly is.

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Post by glalt » October 18, 2024, 9:07 am

IF, the republicans had a decent candidate, the election would have been a landslide win for the republicans. At least most people know that Kamala is an airhead. Unfortunately the Never Trumpers will be forced to vote for an airhead.

It's a shame that neither party has a suitable candidate. The thought that a far left liberal has a chance to become president is a scary thought.

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Post by jackspratt » October 18, 2024, 10:23 am

Harris, by any sensible political definition, is not "far left" of course.

But that is beside the point - isn't the idea of an insurrectionist candidate, who tried to overthrow a presidential election, about as scary a thought as you could possibly have?

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