Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

[jackspratt]

And on it goes!

More credible allegations of genocide in Gaza by Israel.

Israel accused of act of genocide over restriction of Gaza water supply

Human Rights Watch says Israeli forces have acted deliberately to cut availability of clean water

Israel’s restriction of Gaza’s water supply to levels below minimum needs amounts to an act of genocide and extermination as a crime against humanity, a human rights report has alleged.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) investigated Israeli attacks on the water supply infrastructure in Gaza over the course of its 14-month war there.

It has accused Israeli forces of deliberate actions intended to cut the availability of clean water so drastically that the population has been forced to resort to contaminated sources, leading to the outbreak of lethal diseases, especially among children.

Israel’s actions have killed many thousands of Palestinians and constitute an act of genocide, HRW argues, citing declarations by ministers in the country’s ruling coalition that Gaza’s water supply would be cut off as evidence of intent......

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... ghts-watch

[tamada]

On the island of Mayotte, survivors of cyclone Chido are being forced to drink contaminated water due to lack of safe alternatives.

So far, HRW haven't commented on Mother Nature, or France's rather slow response to this catastrophe.

[jackspratt]

On the island of Mayotte, survivors of cyclone Chido are being forced to drink contaminated water due to lack of safe alternatives.

So far, HRW haven't commented on Mother Nature, or France's rather slow response to this catastrophe.

The Mayotte Island cyclone thread is over there -------------------------->

This one is about the Israel/Hamas war, and allegations of Israeli genocide.

[AlexO]

And on it goes!

More credible allegations of genocide in Gaza by Israel.

Israel accused of act of genocide over restriction of Gaza water supply

Human Rights Watch says Israeli forces have acted deliberately to cut availability of clean water

Israel’s restriction of Gaza’s water supply to levels below minimum needs amounts to an act of genocide and extermination as a crime against humanity, a human rights report has alleged.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) investigated Israeli attacks on the water supply infrastructure in Gaza over the course of its 14-month war there.

It has accused Israeli forces of deliberate actions intended to cut the availability of clean water so drastically that the population has been forced to resort to contaminated sources, leading to the outbreak of lethal diseases, especially among children.

Israel’s actions have killed many thousands of Palestinians and constitute an act of genocide, HRW argues, citing declarations by ministers in the country’s ruling coalition that Gaza’s water supply would be cut off as evidence of intent......

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... ghts-watch

And it goes on.
More absolutely unconfirmed anti Israel nonsensical accusations of genocidal actions by the nation fighting for its very existence.
Never mind, most sensible people dont use the Guardian as one of their major sources of factual information.

[FrazeeDK]

how many times has the media, the UN and various NGO's claim that the inhabitants of Gaza are forever on the verge of starvation???

[jackspratt]

how many times has the media, the UN and various NGO's claim that the inhabitants of Gaza are forever on the verge of starvation???

Plenty it seems ..... none of which have been discredited.

In the meantime, plenty of independent, and credible sources, have continued to allege Israeli genocide.

And sensible people take notice.

[tamada]

how many times has the media, the UN and various NGO's claim that the inhabitants of Gaza are forever on the verge of starvation???

Indeed. I was catching up on Dr. Rana Baker's blogs the other day and the hospitals in Gaza have been described as being on the "brink of collapse" in 2013, 2014, 2017 and twice in 2018, but I probably missed a few.

[AlexO]

how many times has the media, the UN and various NGO's claim that the inhabitants of Gaza are forever on the verge of starvation???

Plenty it seems ..... none of which have been discredited.

In the meantime, plenty of independent, and credible sources, have continued to allege Israeli genocide.

And sensible people take notice.

I would put it to all the anti Israelis that everyday video discredits the usual hand wringing claims. No signs of starving, dehydrated, lethargic (common signs of starvation and/or dehydration) people in any video's approved by Hamas.
Indeed the obviously quite full figured ladies filmed weeping over white sheets and children playing outside in streets would tend to discredit all claims by UN and Hamas supporting Agencies still being funded by the normally left wing, anti anything Jewish crowd who seem to have no empathy for the hostages or murdered/raped/traumatised Israelis.
It's quite amazing how many "independant, and credible sources" just parrot the Hamas propaganda blurb rather than actually being on the ground and reporting facts.

[rick]

just parrot the Hamas propaganda blurb rather than actually being on the ground and reporting facts.

Israel will not allow reporters to enter Gaza to report anything, hence they have to rely on Palestinian sources

[tamada]

just parrot the Hamas propaganda blurb rather than actually being on the ground and reporting facts.

Israel will not allow reporters to enter Gaza to report anything, hence they have to rely on Palestinian sources

Just because Hamas is the only source of information, it doesn't mean you have to believe it. Note that this also applies to the Israeli government and government-aligned Israeli media statements.

[jackspratt]

Israel will not allow reporters to enter Gaza to report anything, hence they have to rely on Palestinian sources

That fact, which has been pointed out several times already on this thread, seems to escape the attention of, or is conveniently ignored by, the anti-Palestinian hand wringers.

[tamada]

Israel will not allow reporters to enter Gaza to report anything, hence they have to rely on Palestinian sources

That fact, which has been pointed out several times already on this thread, seems to escape the attention of, or is conveniently ignored by, the anti-Palestinian hand wringers.

The fact, which has already been pointed out several times on this thread, that you don't have to blindly believe everything the only media sources ON EITHER SIDE say, seems to escape the attention of, or is conveniently ignored by, the anti-Israeli hand wringers.

[jackspratt]

Can we accept - in part at least, if not all - of what

- Human Rights Watch
- Amnesty International
- the International Court of Justice
- the International Criminal Court and
- the United Nations General Assembly
- et al

are all saying?

[tamada]

Can we accept - in part at least, if not all - of what

- Human Rights Watch
- Amnesty International
- the International Court of Justice
- the International Criminal Court and
- the United Nations General Assembly
- et al

are all saying?

Based on what Hamas and the Israeli government is saying, yes. Yes you can accept what they're all saying.

[AlexO]

just parrot the Hamas propaganda blurb rather than actually being on the ground and reporting facts.

Israel will not allow reporters to enter Gaza to report anything, hence they have to rely on Palestinian sources

So if no actual access to real facts left wing media repeat Hamas propaganda as factual. Rather silly perhaps or do these outlets actually believe their audience is stupid enough to believe.

[jackspratt]

And so it continues - not much Happy New Year in Gaza under ongoing IDF repression.

UN Human Rights Office releases report on Israeli strikes on Gaza hospitals

"The destruction of the healthcare system in Gaza, and the extent of killing of patients, staff, and other civilians in these attacks, is a direct consequence of the disregard of international humanitarian and human rights law," it said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-01/ ... /104775646

Given the fact that the IDF will not allow independent reporting in Gaza (why not you may well ask?), perhaps it is time to accept what the numerous international bodies are consistently saying has some credibility.

[Udon Map]

Given the fact that the IDF will not allow independent reporting in Gaza (why not you may well ask?), perhaps it is time to accept what the numerous international bodies are consistently saying has some credibility.

The fact that a lot of news sources are repeating the Hamas propaganda doesn't give it additional credibility.

[jackspratt]

The fact that a lot of news sources are repeating the Hamas propaganda doesn't give it additional credibility.

How about the

...numerous international bodies....

?

[Udon Map]

The fact that a lot of news sources are repeating the Hamas propaganda doesn't give it additional credibility.

How about the

...numerous international bodies....

?

The issue isn't who's doing the reporting, the issue is their source(s) of information. If every international bod[y] and news reporting operation in the world reported what Hamas said, would that make it any more credible?

[jackspratt]

https://oxfamilibrary.openrepository.co ... 724-en.pdf

One of many non-Hamas sources.

They are not hard to find.