Marrying aThai Girl with an adopted child

[Roadman]

Agree Ling yai; puts a lot of steps in the right direction.
Now go to your embassy here in Thailand and annoy someone long enough they will give you a case manager and you will get all the info you need to get the child's visa.

And yes there are scams, but there are also good ones, TiT's, even an educated middle class that apply the "I will do that tomorrow" but...so its only a bit different to other countries.

Humour all the scam stories (some are classics ) and apply a few rules

"the one in your pants can lead for about 30 45 , 60 minutes a day and is never allowed to operate in association with money requests".

"time - Thai's have plenty of it. Learn to take it".

[somchai]

Yeah all good advice that i would be foolish not to take. i would like to say though that i believe GF on this subject a nd she lives with her brother [the Father of the child] and mother and father and i have spoken to her brother i n her absence on the web cam and his version of the adoption matches hers, plus noone has ever asked me for a penny in fact to the contrary, she claims to have saved all the money for our wedding herself as she knew i was having difficulties back home which would have prolonged our separation from each other! it sounds almost too good to be true [ probably why i feared a scam] however my first instinct because she has never been a taker and always stopped me spending as much as ive wanted to on her, is to believe her at the same time as keeping an open mind and a close eye on things, which is basic common sense for my own protection as the horror stories do exist and some of them are true.

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[philo]

With all respect: The first step here is to check that her 'brother' is her brother and not her husband or boyfriend.

[747man]

With all respect: The first step here is to check that her 'brother' is her brother and not her husband or boyfriend.

How VERY TRUE,Philo !!!!!! =D> =D> But HE might feel

[Roy]

Its a sad truth Somchai but it is a scam well known out here. The brother is actually the boyfriend or husband and sometimes the whole village is in on the scam.
You also say that your g/f never asks for anything but also remember there are two types of con. The short con, give me money for sick Buffalo etc and the long con, this might take years but once trust is built its easier to go for the bigger bucks.

I would ask to see your g/f's ID card, the brothers ID card and the child's birth certificate. Take copies of these by saying you need the information to get the visa applications started. You will also need to ask the g/f if she has ever changed her name, something Thia's do quite often. If she has you will 100% require the paperwork for any visa application so no point in her lying. If she does she won't get a visa, simple as that.
Once you have obtained this information get someone you trust, not connected with the family in any way to give it the once over.
Its not full proof but it will give you a pretty good idea if she's telling the truth about the child's parentage.

That would be step 1 for me.

Wow I hate to sound so negative but as you say forewarned is forearmed.

On a positive note, yes you hear many horror stories but that is because "I met my wife and we have been very happy for many years" is not that interesting but believe me there are many, many Thai/Falang couples out there how are just that, very happy together.

Good luck with it all and all the best for the future.

[RALPHCUSENS]

Somchai,

Auntie Roy , has said that what many of us has been thinking, take heed, and do your homework.

You could also post which village your intended is from, you never know, some of the formulites here, may live in the same village, thereby being able to shed more light on the situation.

But in the meantime, tread carefully, you don't afterall want top ruin, that which could be the start of a truely good longterm relationship.

Roy very aptley stated, there are many, many Thai/farang relationships that have been happy for a very long time!!.

All the very best ' scummer' (private joke, you will understand )

Ralph

[Stevo]

Somchai, All the very best ' scummer' (private joke, you will understand )
Ralph

Nah!! he's from Andover... not a real scummer

[beer monkey]

I know a bloke called Ben Dover.

[RALPHCUSENS]

BM, Not intimatly I hope!!!!!!!!!!

[RALPHCUSENS]

Stevo, yer I know, but I could not help it

[kakariki]

Hi All
I did a similar thing bringing my family to Australia, and it was a requirement of Aust Immmigration that I had to get a court order to bring the children here, and I guess it would be the same taking them to England.
BB

[somchai]

Get the scummer joke, but im not a football fan as such! so again not a true scummer...but Andover football club is probably somewhere below Acrington stanley! so less to be proud of!

[somchai]

I wont give out her name for obvious reasons but she is from Kuddo, Nonsang

[somchai]

i got it on my list of things to do on my next visit to do exactly what you have sugested and check the finer details, hence my posts on here. i have seen her id previously

[BKKSTAN]

Checking his ID against birth cert might be a good idea!

[Aardvark]

Hi Somchai, not quite the same scenario as yours but could be helpful. My wifes TH had walked out on her three years previously and we needed his permission to take her then 5 year old daughter to Oz with us. She got the Village Headman and his Deputy and went to the district office. Spent all morning filling out forms and getting them stamped. The end result was that the Headman and his mate acted as witnesses to state that her ex had deserted her and the child and as a result full custody was given to my wife plus permission for the child to be taken from the Country. All perfectly Legal, and after Bht 600 for Headman and mate came in just under Bht 1,000. Just an extra little food for thought

[BKKSTAN]

Hi Somchai, not quite the same scenario as yours but could be helpful. My wifes TH had walked out on her three years previously and we needed his permission to take her then 5 year old daughter to Oz with us. She got the Village Headman and his Deputy and went to the district office. Spent all morning filling out forms and getting them stamped. The end result was that the Headman and his mate acted as witnesses to state that her ex had deserted her and the child and as a result full custody was given to my wife plus permission for the child to be taken from the Country. All perfectly Legal, and after Bht 600 for Headman and mate came in just under Bht 1,000. Just an extra little food for thought

We did the same type of process with my wifes daughter!The father had her on his parents house paper and they would not give it to us,plus her name on the BC is the fathers name(no registered marriage)!

We went to the district office in BK with 2 of my wifes siblings that testified to the fathers unknown whereabouts and received a custody paper after putting her on a friends housepaper in BK.These papers were needed to get her passport and enroll her in school!

[747man]

I know a bloke called Ben Dover.

I Know his wife......Eileen !!

[beer monkey]

Must be a differant one,... he is not married.

[somchai]

cheers it helps